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[MrGreencastle]

Bullshit, people have to stop saying this.
I expected a somewhat balanced pvp mode with imprvements after the alpha, and there are none.

It is the same thing like many people who still play Halo 4, they think it is still good or ok because they just dominate, but even that is just a sign of very poor matchmaking, gets even worse when they are bragging about "pub stomps" and then complain about the game when they get wrecked in customs by good people.
Same with destiny most people I see who like it are the ones who also use the OP autorifles, the tank thingy and brag how they killed lots of guys with their supers.

It plays similar to Halo, as far as the weightiness and shooting aliens goes. But the game is most definitely not Halo. Especially so in PVP. I actually really like the Control mode, I think it works really well, and probably would work well in Halo, too.

The PVP is a ton of fun for me, because it took what they were trying to do with Reach as far as classes and customizability is concerned and just explodes it into this ridiculously complex "meta" game. But it works way better here than it ever did "tacked on" to Halo. It's like having all your gun unlocks and skill trees/CoD create-a-class tied into the rest of the game modes in one slick package.

Looking at some of the skill trees for the higher level subclasses and weapons/gear and I just can't wait to see what this game becomes near the "end-game". There's triple jumps, explosive rounds, superman-style smash supers, teleporting, matrix-hovering, etc, etc. There's just a ridiculous amount of depth if you want to go into it. But because you're so "weak" at a base level, for the most part, if you shoot a guy and do well with your headshots, etc, he will die, no matter what upgrades you may have. Unless you're playing in the Iron Banner, that is. Which will also be really interesting to see in the higher levels.

I dunno, I like how Crucible (and any other mode, really) isn't so much an isolated experience away from everything else, and you get rewarded for playing across different modes, in each of those modes.

Again, it isn't Halo at all. But it is really fun and "feels" very similar when put next to a CoD or a Battlefield or even Borderlands. I highly doubt we will see this go "competitive" in the same way that Halo did, if at all, though. It's just too much about building and playing with your Guardian for that, but who knows.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Pretty desperate for a destiny eta key for 360. Some kind halo gaffer pm me

 

[willow ve]

Pretty desperate for a destiny eta key for 360. Some kind halo gaffer pm me

Check your PMs

 

[The Henery]

Played about five games of Destiny PvP (360 version) and had a lot of fun. As soon as the game was announced as a weapon class/cod customisation/unbalanced starting brand of shooter I had very low expectations; I mentally dismissed it as a game I could play 'seriously'. Despite the imbalance and plethora of uncontrollable variables, it was still a blast to play. Double jump feels perfectly weighted, vehicles have great physics (if a bit OP), the sniper is very satisfying and the game overall has that polished Bungie sheen which made the Halo games such accomplished works. Still not sure if I'll buy the game though, if only because I don't think I'd have the time to play it, particularly with MCC coming at the end of the year.

 

[Jezehbell]

Classy as fuck

 

[The Real Napsta]

Played about five games of Destiny PvP (360 version) and had a lot of fun. As soon as the game was announced as a weapon class/cod customisation/unbalanced starting brand of shooter I had very low expectations; I mentally dismissed it as a game I could play 'seriously'. Despite the imbalance and plethora of uncontrollable variables, it was still a blast to play. Double jump feels perfectly weighted, vehicles have great physics (if a bit OP), the sniper is very satisfying and the game overall has that polished Bungie sheen which made the Halo games such accomplished works. Still not sure if I'll buy the game though, if only because I don't think I'd have the time to play it, particularly with MCC coming at the end of the year.

After playing Titanfall I find the double jump to be terrible and floaty.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

Played about five games of Destiny PvP (360 version) and had a lot of fun. As soon as the game was announced as a weapon class/cod customisation/unbalanced starting brand of shooter I had very low expectations; I mentally dismissed it as a game I could play 'seriously'. Despite the imbalance and plethora of uncontrollable variables, it was still a blast to play. Double jump feels perfectly weighted, vehicles have great physics (if a bit OP), the sniper is very satisfying and the game overall has that polished Bungie sheen which made the Halo games such accomplished works. Still not sure if I'll buy the game though, if only because I don't think I'd have the time to play it, particularly with MCC coming at the end of the year.

I kinda agree with you but I feel the PVP is boring and unbalanced. PVE is something that will bore the shit out of me if I play it more than 3 times a week.

Still excited to play the full version.

 

[Mistel]

Speaking of Pulse grenades, 343 should rip off Swarm Grenades from Destiny. Those are actually effective (except they could be a tad stronger).

I've not played it what do they do?

 

[Woorloog]

Give Pulse Grenades EMP effect but no damage, ie they strip shields, or perhaps partially only, and shut down vehicles for sometime, (the further they're from the detonation, the less effect). Boom, we have unique utility grenade, that is picked up one at a time instead of two.
EDIT alternatively give them flashbang effect.

 

[Fuchsdh]

I do like some of the grenades from Borderlands in their unique effects--some turn into homing bomblets that return health, others serve as damage-over-time tesla coils. I think you could do something similar with grenades, but as people have pointed out you don't have to do much to pulse grenades to differentiate them more.

 

[Poker Face]

Bullshit, people have to stop saying this.
I expected a somewhat balanced pvp mode with imprvements after the alpha, and there are none.

It is the same thing like many people who still play Halo 4, they think it is still good or ok because they just dominate, but even that is just a sign of very poor matchmaking, gets even worse when they are bragging about "pub stomps" and then complain about the game when they get wrecked in customs by good people.
Same with destiny most people I see who like it are the ones who also use the OP autorifles, the tank thingy and brag how they killed lots of guys with their supers.

It IS somewhat balanced though. The weapons stats are equaled upon entering PvP, so even if you have some ridiculously powerful autorifle it will be nerfed for PvP.

The vehicles are awful, and matchmaking really needs to have some sort of skill matching, but other than that I really have no issues. Supers are easy (not free) kills and work well. Everyone has a powerful weapon set that ensure you have a weapon for almost every scenario. Special/Heavy ammo drops solves the issues spawning with power weapons. I don't understand how people can say Halo 4

Spoiler

....or CoD Ghosts....

is better, but everyone has their preferences. I have minor gripes with Destiny, but this might end up being Bungie's best multiplayer since Halo 2. Well at least for me.

 

[Fracas]

I thought needler as soon as I saw the fallen weapons, the little grunt fallen guys seem to carry plasma pistols as well

Only they shoot blue instead of green.

However the biggest problem with the pve gameplay for me is that all the loot is exactly the same except for some stat boosts. There's nothing interesting about it. The weapons in each weapon type feel identical. I am liking the DMR (or whatever its called in Destiny) though. Shame I found an AR with better stats :/

Any chance you were playing PvP last night? There was a dude in our game named jem218 or something

It IS somewhat balanced though. The weapons stats are equaled upon entering PvP, so even if you have some ridiculously powerful autorifle it will be nerfed for PvP.

The vehicles are awful, and matchmaking really needs to have some sort of skill matching, but other than that I really have no issues. Supers are easy (not free) kills and work well. Everyone has a powerful weapon set that ensure you have a weapon for almost every scenario. Special/Heavy ammo drops solves the issues spawning with power weapons. I don't understand how people can say Halo 4

Spoiler

....or CoD Ghosts....

is better, but everyone has their preferences. I have minor gripes with Destiny, but this might end up being Bungie's best multiplayer since Halo 2. Well at least for me.

It's balanced in the idea that everyone is packing something overpowered as hell, but my issue is that I have no idea who is packing what or even when their one-shot kill ability is up.

 

[gAg CruSh3r]

Stinkles, can we get an update on system link/LAN in Halo: The Master Chief Collection?

I wish to know this too ..

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

CE > H2 > H3 > H4 > Destiny > Reach

That's my list as of right now. Maybe once we're able to start unlocking more powers and gameplay is more diversified will it be more fun for me; some of the later abilities look awesome. Right now with only three maps and a multiplayer that feels almost as grounded/restricted as CoD (and probably even more unbalanced), I don't think I'll be spending much time with Destiny after its first month.

At the end of September there's Hyrule Warriors, then Smash early October followed by Evolve/Sunset Overdrive at the end of the month, then TMCC and Smash in November (because Nintendo wouldn't release Smash after Black Friday, right?). Doesn't seem like Destiny will have much legs with me.

I do like some of the grenades from Borderlands in their unique effects--some turn into homing bomblets that return health, others serve as damage-over-time tesla coils. I think you could do something similar with grenades, but as people have pointed out you don't have to do much to pulse grenades to differentiate them more.

The same can be said with several weapons, so hopefully we'll see more diversity in the sandbox.

 

[Poker Face]

It's balanced in the idea that everyone is packing something overpowered as hell, but my issue is that I have no idea who is packing what or even when their one-shot kill ability is up.

I think there name is colored yellow if they have their super ready. All of the supers have a start up time and give you a short amount of time to kill the person trying to use the super.

 

[User 73706]

CE > H2 > H3 > H4 > Destiny > Reach

That's my list as of right now. Maybe once we're able to start unlocking more powers and gameplay is more diversified will it be more fun for me; some of the later abilities look awesome. Right now with only three maps and a multiplayer that feels almost as grounded/restricted as CoD (and probably even more unbalanced), I don't think I'll be spending much time with Destiny after its first month.

At the end of September there's Hyrule Warriors, then Smash early October followed by Evolve/Sunset Overdrive at the end of the month, then TMCC and Smash in November (because Nintendo wouldn't release Smash after Black Friday, right?). Doesn't seem like Destiny will have much legs with me.


The same can be said with several weapons, so hopefully we'll see more diversity in the sandbox.

With regards to only the Halo titles, I never understand how people think the games just get progressively shittier with every subsequent release. My MP list is probably:

PC > 3 > 4 = Reach > 2 > CE

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

With regards to only the Halo titles, I never understand how people think the games just get progressively shittier with every subsequent release. My MP list is probably:

PC > 3 > 4 = Reach > 2 > CE

You don't understand it despite the years of people posting why they think that way? I don't understand.

:]

 

[Steelyuhas]

My biggest issue with Destiny pvp isn't even the differing abilities or 45 explosions going off at all times. The player movement just isn't good, feels like I have an anchor tied to me. It's very clunky.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

My biggest issue with Destiny pvp isn't even the differing abilities or 45 explosions going off at all times. The player movement just isn't good, feels like I have an anchor tied to me. It's very clunky.

The clunkiness is one reason I disliked Halo 3 after CE and Halo 2. Switching weapons felt slow, aiming felt sketchy, movement and overall gameplay felt sluggish/clunky. Reach took a step back by not improving and even removing several features (while continually making the movement slower, jump height lower, increasing the power of weapons/abilities while shitting all over your movement options) while Destiny throws any identity of Halo balance out the window.

Destiny will be that game where you just want to jump into multiplayer for a few matches just to use some of the cool abilities lol


EDIT:

Halo 2's rapid-fire weapon switching felt more like a lack of polish than an intentional design decision. It's also the reason we got things like people luring enemies in lunge range only to whip out the Sword and take them out in the blink of an eye.

That was a problem with the lunge distance and not having weapons appear on the character models in Halo 2.

 

[User 73706]

Halo 2's rapid-fire weapon switching felt more like a lack of polish than an intentional design decision. It's also the reason we got things like people luring enemies in lunge range only to whip out the Sword and take them out in the blink of an eye.

 

[Orochinagis]

I've not played it what do they do?

Is basically promethean grenade but this time it fragments and float as a trap waiting for a enemy then all the fragments chase him/her and kill it.

 

[Mistel]

Is basically promethean grenade but this time it fragments and float as a trap waiting for a enemy then all the fragments chase him/her and kill it.

So a floating trip mine/homing grenade. That's cool does it work well?

 

[Orochinagis]

So a floating trip mine/homing grenade. That's cool does it work well?

Swarm actives if you are too close to the trap so it works wonders in corridors and corners, cant kill enemies fully shielded but weak them enough for a easy kill or do the final blow if you manage to weak them before reaching the trap.

 

[jem0208]

Any chance you were playing PvP last night? There was a dude in our game named jem218 or something

Nah, my gamertag is Il Meanbean lI

I need some people to play Destiny with though, game is a bit meh on your own.

 

[kittens]

I posted this in the beta thread earlier, but Destiny PvP is the Mario Kart of FPS. It's unbalanced and sometimes infuriating, but it's enhanced with skillful play and generally fun as hell.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Nah, my gamertag is Il Meanbean lI

I need some people to play Destiny with though, game is a bit meh on your own.

I'm game. Send me an invite, GT's the same as my user.

 

[Fracas]

I posted this in the beta thread earlier, but Destiny PvP is the Mario Kart of FPS. It's unbalanced and sometimes infuriating, but it's enhanced with skillful play and generally fun as hell.

I still think it's a mess but I'm always down for GAF donging parties. Everything's fun when you win every game!

 

[jem0208]

I'm game. Send me an invite, GT's the same as my user.

You on X1?

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Good watch for Halo fans (new Unreal Tournament dev video detailing the first revealed map). I would like more maps like this (clean and pristine, visual clarity, etc.) with similar philosophies for Halo.

 

[Prinz Eugn]

Destiny multiplayer finally feels like actual Call of Halo, and is pretty fun but I would suspect the fun evaporates fairly quickly if you aren't in a party. I might buy it just for the co-op though, but like Henery said MCC is coming out too so why bother?

 

[jem0208]

Good watch for Halo fans (new Unreal Tournament dev video detailing the first revealed map). I would like more maps like this (clean and pristine, visual clarity, etc.) with similar philosophies for Halo.

Definitely.


Best map in 4 was Haven just for this reason. It's actually one of my problems with Destiny, far too much clutter and visual noise.

 

[Mix]

HaloGAF playing Destiny was a ton of fun last night.

 

[Nebula]

Don't think I'll be buying Destiny. I'll grab Borderlands pre-sequel and MCC instead.

 

[User 73706]

I posted this in the beta thread earlier, but Destiny PvP is the Mario Kart of FPS. It's unbalanced and sometimes infuriating, but it's enhanced with skillful play and generally fun as hell.

So it's an Arcade Arena Shooter? Party Shooter? Either way, that seems like an accurate assessment.

 

[Orochinagis]

So it's an Arcade Arena Shooter? Party Shooter? Either way, that seems like an accurate assessment.

Pretty much yes just getting a break from the PVE

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Dat Escalation #8 ending...

Yup. I was like oh shit. Great issue though. Can't wait for the next one.

 

[Rev3rb]

HaloGAF playing Destiny was a ton of fun last night.

I'll be on tonight after work if anyone wants to do some more pvp/strikes.

 

[Fracas]

I'll be on tonight after work if anyone wants to do some more pvp/strikes.

I'm down. Lemme know when you dudes hop on and I'll join. I need to perfect my warlock jump strats anyway.

 

[NobleGundam]

is gaf playing destiny together on xb1 or 360?

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Destiny is a ton of fun, but its PVP is shit.

Anyways, any good secrets in the Destiny beta? How do I get a new Sparrow?

---


In other news, NECA's MC looking good at SDCC:

 

[MythicReclaimer]

Destiny is a ton of fun, but its PVP is shit.

Anyways, any good secrets in the Destiny beta? How do I get a new Sparrow?

If you find the 5 Golden Chests you will be rewarded with a new Sparrow.

I believe you can purchase different ones in the Tower as well.

 

[Poodlestrike]

You on X1?

Yup.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

If you find the 5 Golden Chests you will be rewarded with a new Sparrow.

I believe you can purchase different ones in the Tower as well.

Hm, not sure if I even found one Golden Chest. Any way to check, or a map online on where to find them?

 

[Fracas]

Hm, not sure if I even found one Golden Chest. Any way to check, or a map online on where to find them?

Kotaku published this just today

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Hype.

Kotaku published this just today

Nice, thanks!

 

[User 73706]

Are they on the remains of Installation 04, or 04(B)? I'm guessing B considering it should still be able to support life to a degree, and would tie in with Chief possibly being on the Ark.

 

[-Ryn]

is gaf playing destiny together on xb1 or 360?

Last night it was X1. I'm not sure how much of Gaf plays the beta on the 360 aside from you and me.

I'm down for some Destiny on either of them tonight.

 

[jem0208]

I'm up for some destiny with some people. Haven't played with you guys before

Also Agent Locke is playable? Crazy.

 

[blamite]

Is anybody tweeting the Nightfall panel?

 

[Mix]

Locke will be playable in Halo 5 campaign

Also confirms that Colter will be playing Locke in Halo 5, doing Mo-Cap and VO for the character