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Han Solo actor - I'm just not seeing it.
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The guy on the right fucks.
Chewy?
Same here. Like its existence is a threat to something, I don't get it.
/sarcasm right? Can't really tell anymore.
Prof. Bathtub
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Yeah, I don't know. ESB was made for financial reasons with financial considerations, same with all the rest. The bounty hunter scene would be criticized by some today for adding a bunch of action figures who didn't do anything in the plot.
Anyhow, we've seen the majority of Obi-Wan's story, whereas Han is a decent recognizable vehicle to explore other aspects of the setting. I don't think it's sacrilege to recast him, partially because I don't think of the character as the pinnacle of cool, rather a (likable) doof and a screwup. I mean, it's not like they would digitally replace Ford with Alden á la Jabba, Boba or Sebastian Shaw.
That's why the vast majority of movies get made.
Ah, there it is. "You see, I KNOW it will suck. So I'm making sure to say that now just in case it doesn't and it gets good reviews."
The people behind this movie are great. There's no reason to assume it will suck.
Fudgepuppy
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I can totally imagine Ehrenreich pulling off that goofy swagger of Han Solo. Just imagine him doing the scene with Solo running and screaming around the corner in Death Star, then meeting all the stormtroopers and running straight back. Same with the scene when he's yelling at Chewie when he's fixing the Falcon on Hoth. Those kinds of scenes are definitely something he can do just based off of his performance in Hail Caesar.
Strangelove77
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Actors don't have to look like the characters they're portraying to put in a faithful performance. Steve Jobs wished he looked like Fassbender.
Ninja Scooter
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Well the random dude was hired to play Ford's younger counterpart.
in a bit role, and what's he done since then? I for one am glad the standards for a big budget lead role are a little higher and they are actually casting the best ACTOR. They aren't casting someone to play Han Solo at Disneyland.
CD'S BAR
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I was playing off his quote that it "has no business being made."
No.
The concept alone is dumb to many people, and if you haven't been impressed with the Disney Star Wars films so far then there is reason to assume it will be lame.
WyndhamPrice
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I was skeptical of Ehrenreich (and wanted Taron Edgerton) but HAIL, CAESAR! really sold me on him.
Lol was gonna say this, his name's not Aiden. So I guess OP has no reason to give him a shot
ffejeromdiks
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I was skeptical and then 100% on board after seeing his performance in Hail, Caesar! Dude's got some impressive chops, and he'll totally nail the Solo swagger.
If the concept is so stupid then it won't make billions and have 98% on RT. If you aren't impressed with "Disney" Star Wars films then your opinion is hardly a majority sentiment.
I can't stand a lot of popular things, doesn't mean my opinion is worth a damn.
CadetMahoney
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oh is that guy supposed to be Lando?
That's not an invalid point that group of people is very small. They are acclaimed movies and audiences have loved them.
brandonh83
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Yeah, I guess I just have no interest in discussing how movies are made for money. It doesn't mean that the actual filmmakers don't have the care or artistic passion though. The suits care about the money. Filmmaking is a job. They require shitloads of money to make them and people enjoy watching them. It's called mutual gain. Everything you find on a store shelf is there to make money including a can of soup. The company doesn't care if you're hungry or not, they want you to buy the fucking soup.
I've just never understood the drive to talk about how movies are made to make money. No shit. Star Wars wouldn't exist, could not exist if they didn't make money, same for literally anything else. It's always felt like "I don't have any actual criticisms so I'll just mention how this thing was made just to make money and sell toys." Disney spent $4 billion for Star Wars. Yes. I imagine they want to make some of that back. Checks out.
Who care? As long as he can act the part I don't care what he looks like. People get too attached to superficial elements sometimes. This dude is playing a fictional character, not Harrison Ford. As long as he fits into this movie I'm happy.
And yeah, this movie sounds like the worst idea ever but so did a comedic remake of the old 21 Jump Street TV-show and a movie about Lego. If anyone can make a bad idea into a great movie it's Lord and Miller so I got high hopes for this.
And yeah, this movie sounds like the worst idea ever but so did a comedic remake of the old 21 Jump Street TV-show and a movie about Lego. If anyone can make a bad idea into a great movie it's Lord and Miller so I got high hopes for this.
Funny that that dude on the first page brought up Fassbender as Jobs as an example of why there has to be a close likeness, when for me that was the movie that finally put the nail in the coffin of that concept. I thought he did fantastic work and after about five minutes I wasn't thinking about who looked like who I was just watching a movie.
SCReuter
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That doesn't matter. A dumb idea is a dumb idea... just look at that lame movie about frickin' Facebook from six or so years ago. The talent behind a project is mostly irrelevant.
He is imitating Han Solo from the OT, how does he manage with new material?
brandonh83
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An idea is an idea. The execution of an idea is what makes most ideas good or bad. The original Star Wars sounded like the dumbest fucking idea to all those studios that turned it down. I asked someone what Lord of the Rings was about before the movies came out (had no knowledge of the book) and they said, "er, well, it's about people called Hobbits, they're really short people and some of them have to take an evil ring and toss it into a volcano."
Side note, Social Network was a really good movie.
DiipuSurotu
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What if the team from Rogue One digitally touch him up
SCReuter
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Psst... I'm being sarcastic.
brandonh83
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Nah that's okay. Let Alden be Alden. Actors are there to act, not look identical to someone that played a role before. His performance is going to make or break how people take him as Han Solo. Some useless digital fuckery isn't going to help.
Damn it
You know, in movies there's this amazing thing called "acting" where it's possible for "actors" to completely change how they act, what they sound like, and even how they look, in order to fit a specific role as prescribed by a director!
I know it's crazy to think it's possible, but it really is.
I know it's crazy to think it's possible, but it really is.
brickarts295
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I can actually see it. Dat smile is very Ford like.
Whompa02
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He looks older than Harrison did in A New Hope.
It's not going to work and I have no idea why they thought it ever would have. Film should have been a Donald Glover Lando adventure and had Anthony Ingruber (who couldnt carry a whole film) just show up at the end to win the Falcon.
An imitation can't act. See Ashton Kutcher from jOBS.
brandonh83
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It's the same song and dance just about every single time. Heath Ledger as Joker? LOL Ben Af-- LOL
Granted those were characters that have been portrayed by a number of folks already, but it still goes to show how finicky people are over casting and this and that. Just like with those roles/films nobody will give a shit about any of this after it comes out. Lord and Miller are solid and people are vouching for Alden after seeing Hail, Caesar.
I'd wager the chances of this not working out are lesser than the alternative.
Affeinvasion
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Who actually wanted a young Han Solo movie? Anybody?
brandonh83
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Not a single person. Those box office returns are going to be absolutely dreadful.
That's literally what I said dude! I'm just saying, on paper another prequel (like that's worked out for this franchise) about one of the most iconic characters ever doesn't sound like a smart idea. But again, Lord and Miller have been on one hot streak in my opinion. I absolutely love their movies. So I'm still excited for this one as well.
Next thing you're gonna tell me they'll make a movie based on Legos, or reboot 21 Jump Street AND make a sequel to it! Show me someone who can turn those into anything remotely decent and I'll say a Han Solo movie could work.
brandonh83
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Whompa02
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They could say, "George Lucas returns to direct a Jar Jar binks solo movie" and it will print money before production ends. Star Wars doesn't lose money.
Look.. I don't like the idea of this movie either but it's really stupid to say "it doesn't matter" (that there's a great crew doing the movie) based solely on assumption before you've even seen anything from the film itself.
brandonh83
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Yeah. It's like, I personally can't stand Transformers and don't really want any more of them, but their existence doesn't bother me. They're movies. And just because I don't think they're good doesn't mean that they shouldn't exist or that people don't want them. People clearly do want them. I don't, but I don't give a shit that it's there. If people are getting enjoyment out of them, that's all that matters and more power to 'em.
BarringGaffner
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Better to have a good actor than someone who just looks like someone. If you just do an impression, you'll get a surface level performance.
See: Ashton Kutcher as Steve Jobs
Also, he looks as much like Han as Donald like Lando, if not more.
See: Ashton Kutcher as Steve Jobs
Also, he looks as much like Han as Donald like Lando, if not more.
Doctoglethorpe
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Same. At most it should just be animated. In the flesh, Ford is Solo, nobody else.
I get the feeling this movie is gonna repeat some of the same mistakes the prequels did. And be compared to them for it.
Ninja Scooter
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Apparently to look like Lando all you have to do is be black and have a mustache. Glover's most prominent, standout facial feature is probably his eyes, which look nothing like Billy Dee Williams'.
On the flip side of that you could argue "they could be making something else that's potentially way cooler than this particular idea" that you'd rather see instead. I mean shit I only live so long.
I'd rather get 50 films based on.. well just about anything else, instead of a Solo spinoff. But again, these are just feelings I have about the idea of it (it seems like there's so much incredible potential inside of the SW universe and I'd prefer newer content); I'm open to seeing what's up before writing it off.
brandonh83
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Really Star Wars can't win with everyone. Force Awakens addressed every single issue people had with the prequels (acting/dialogue/CG/etc) and they turn around and call it a rehash and that there's too many callbacks or whatever. The Han Solo movie will surely be criticized for whatever reasons people can think of regardless how good it is.
They shouldn't not make a movie because there's going to be certain people to nitpick the utter fuck out of everything. If they took people into consideration who thinks everything is a bad idea before they even dare write a script nothing would get made.
I can think of other things I think I would rather see too. I'm also sitting here, just a guy that hasn't read the script or knows fuck all what they're doing, so I don't feel like I'm in a position to say that I don't want this because I don't know what "it" is yet. If it's bad? Sure, I'll say, okay I didn't want that. Or rather that particular execution. And there's going to be a SW film every year probably until we die, so those things you want, or think you want, will probably happen at some point.
I don't know if I want this or not because I haven't seen shit from it. If it looks like a good, fun Star Wars thing, I'll take it.
old manatee
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Anyone who thinks that Donald Glover is capable of being as cool and sexy as Billy Dee Williams should take a hard look at his ridiculous performance in Magic Mike XXL.
CD'S BAR
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i'll stop after this post...i never said it was a majority opinion. "many" does not mean "majority." hence why i said it will make a lot of money and review well (thought it'll make a lot even if it doesn't review well), even thought i personally have no desire to see this and think it will not be good.
When it wasn't, too. SW fans definitely have the worse loud minority voice out of any form of entertainment though.
brandonh83
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Look, if this thread gets derailed with that, I'll take responsibility. Future apologies, everyone.
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