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Hardest Fighting Game Characters To Master
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SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
I salute anyone who can play properly with Vega
high level Fox is a beast like no other
Yep. As a Samus main, high level Fox literally puts the fear of God in me.
I like to think im pretty good at smash, but Fox players, I tip my hat to you. My fingers and mind just don't work that fast.
Yes, this is a TAS, but Jesus...the shit possible with Fox.
Fucking Fox McLoud man. I can't.
abstract alien
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I didn't really mean it literally, just that her design is leaned more towards a stick user. There are some pad prodigy types out there for sure though, like Vangief.
Keihart
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I can't do shit with Ivy after SC2, i don't understand in the new SC with Ivy, it used to have very easy to understand stances and especific moves for those.
I might be wrong, but i feel that some characters in tekken and GG in general are a pain to master, wich is fun , because is a mix of execution with understanding of their arsenal.
Don't really know about especific characters, since i tend to pick 2 or 3 mains, and never again touch the other characters.
Musicmugen
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cody from street fighter 4 for me he has a couple of 1 frame links but the hardest part and most enjoying about him is that he doesn't have a get out a jail free card you need good reads on your opponent when you're under pressure to get some breathing room and lay the hurt
I dunno I feel like Viper was better for me on a pad, I am not some stick expert or anything. But for me anyway.
Rhazer Fusion
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Anna and Nina Williams from Tekken. Then again, I love complicated, challenging characters.
Akira is a little easier to play now imo, but he was insanity to master in the older Virtua Fighter games.
Sarah from Virtua Fighter is also a little complicated imo,
Most grapplers in 2D games imo are tough to master such as Zangief or T-Hawk.
Vicetrailia
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Definitely Virtua Fighter characters.
Akira, Kage, Goh, Vanessa, Wolf, Aoi, etc...it takes time just to even begin to have any offense.
Akira, Kage, Goh, Vanessa, Wolf, Aoi, etc...it takes time just to even begin to have any offense.
I'm surprised by how often Akira is mentioned, you'd think the protag would be one of the easier characters to play. The Mishimas require good execution due to the EWGF but other than that they're no more challenging than other characters in the game and frankly have good and relatively easy to use moves.
abstract alien
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I play primarily on controller myself, though I'm very accustomed to a stick. A few have told me I should go at it with one since I play Claw, but I think I do pretty well with the ole cross pad.
Master Thespian
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UltraGunner
Banned
Came to post this. He's tough just for the fact that you esentially managing and controlling two characters instead of just one.
Jazzkokehead
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Is C.Viper really considered a difficult character? She's probably one of the Street Fighter IV characters I have the easiest time playing as. Then again, I would hardly say I've "mastered" her.
She relies on a lot of quick spacial cancels and tight excecution to use in the pro level.
Jazzkokehead
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Well, I'm definitely not playing at a pro level.
Possibly Venom from GG. Yeah, Testament or Arakune are the trap masters, but Venom is another level of insane with all that ball (lol) positioning.
I main Vega in SFIV and I tell you I can't, for the life of me, perform some of his 1-frame links. Not that they are useful, but fuck.
But I was thinking Vega is hard to master because you have to play defensively and adapt to the opponent's state of mind. You can't bash the same combos over and over again, you have to wait for your opportunity and strike. Mind games, positioning, baiting, footsies... all combined. You don't see that in any other characters and I love it.
I main Vega in SFIV and I tell you I can't, for the life of me, perform some of his 1-frame links. Not that they are useful, but fuck.
But I was thinking Vega is hard to master because you have to play defensively and adapt to the opponent's state of mind. You can't bash the same combos over and over again, you have to wait for your opportunity and strike. Mind games, positioning, baiting, footsies... all combined. You don't see that in any other characters and I love it.
petran79
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funny that you mention Demitri.
In Darkstalkers he feels the more familiar since he is closest to the shoto archetype
Other characters like Lilith, Morrigan, Bulleta, Jedah, Lord Raptor are more execution heavy. I use Lilith and her links are very hard.
they require amazing precision and execution. by the time it takes for me to go from one button to the next, others have performed an Illusion combo already. Cant for the life of me reach that speed.
On the other hand and regarding gameplay, Anakaris is the hardest to master, due to his fewer options.
I find Garou: Mark of the Wolves the most execution heavy.
Especially characters like Marco, Terry Bogard, the younger Hwan brother and Gato.
their cancel moves are impossible for me to master. they require a dragon punch, followed by AB cancel, then a super, usually 2xdf punch or kick, some even 3xdf punch or kick.Performing that move even once takes its toll from me and I cant do much else afterward. others can dp cancel three times in a row!
The other characters are easier since they have a df punch or kick, AB cancel and super.
in the middle are Rock Howard (360 punch and AB cancel) and Kim (d, u charge, kick, AB cancel)
the shoryuken move is infinitely more difficult to cancel. mastering those characters makes SF4 Viper like a walk in the park.
In Darkstalkers he feels the more familiar since he is closest to the shoto archetype
Other characters like Lilith, Morrigan, Bulleta, Jedah, Lord Raptor are more execution heavy. I use Lilith and her links are very hard.
they require amazing precision and execution. by the time it takes for me to go from one button to the next, others have performed an Illusion combo already. Cant for the life of me reach that speed.
On the other hand and regarding gameplay, Anakaris is the hardest to master, due to his fewer options.
I find Garou: Mark of the Wolves the most execution heavy.
Especially characters like Marco, Terry Bogard, the younger Hwan brother and Gato.
their cancel moves are impossible for me to master. they require a dragon punch, followed by AB cancel, then a super, usually 2xdf punch or kick, some even 3xdf punch or kick.Performing that move even once takes its toll from me and I cant do much else afterward. others can dp cancel three times in a row!
The other characters are easier since they have a df punch or kick, AB cancel and super.
in the middle are Rock Howard (360 punch and AB cancel) and Kim (d, u charge, kick, AB cancel)
the shoryuken move is infinitely more difficult to cancel. mastering those characters makes SF4 Viper like a walk in the park.
I salute anyone who can play properly with Vega
I play Claw in ST and a lot of people criticise him for being braindead. I personally think they are a bunch of fireball-throwing cowards who need to get Izuna dropped.
ScriptedReality
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gotta cosign this. id love to be good with her but it never happens lol.
Alcotholic
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I'm not really much of a fighting game master, but I've managed to get some of her insane moves down. She's fun.
while it's true that some of Akira's commands - namely the GBoD and the knee - take some practice before you'll be landing them consistently, his MO is actually really straightforward. in this regard, he's one of the simplest characters in the game!
666P at medium disadvantage, combo on CH, fuzzy guard on block
mix up guard breaks (6P+K+G -> combo) and throws (46P+G is best forward, 64P+G -> combo is best back throw) if you think your opponent will block
and that's it.
I get why people are intimidated by him, but don't even worry about the knee and GBoD for now. the knee isn't even that great now that 666P is so good. go learn Akira because he's cool as shit
Deckard Cain
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Maxi from Soul Calibur. From a pure knowledge stand point, you need to know every move in every stance & when you can & can't use them & know all of his transitions as well.
Armor King from Tekken. All of the complexities of Mishimas & King combined with only half the reward.
Armor King from Tekken. All of the complexities of Mishimas & King combined with only half the reward.
DagnastyEp
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Voldo from the Soul Caliber series. Just could never get in the flow of using him.
Mishimas - mishimas are execution heavy wavedash, ewgf etc. Add that on top of tekkens large amount of matchups hundreds of different moves
Vsav characters- while there are some easier ones a lot of cast of vsav has a high execution barrier pretty much every character has something that requires a large amount of skill. Also the game over all has a relatively low amount of hitstun on a lot of moves
I-no is definitely the most execution heavy character in guilty gear but guilty gear is similar to vsav most characters are relatively hard to learn
For me personally it's either lilith from vsav(I suck at buffering demon out of anything) or twelve from 3s. I think that it's fair to say that large a part of learning character is matchups and twelve is a character so bad it takes a lot more than execution to learn how to win as him.
Vsav characters- while there are some easier ones a lot of cast of vsav has a high execution barrier pretty much every character has something that requires a large amount of skill. Also the game over all has a relatively low amount of hitstun on a lot of moves
I-no is definitely the most execution heavy character in guilty gear but guilty gear is similar to vsav most characters are relatively hard to learn
For me personally it's either lilith from vsav(I suck at buffering demon out of anything) or twelve from 3s. I think that it's fair to say that large a part of learning character is matchups and twelve is a character so bad it takes a lot more than execution to learn how to win as him.
ComputerMKII
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Anyone in Virtua Fighter
His 1-frame links are super duper important, actually. They are definitely a bitch though. The rest of what you're saying: footsies, zoning, playing lame etc. is definitely not unique to Vega, and in fact, he's pretty straightforward if you stick to his obvious strengths; in SFIV he's hard to use in a sense because he's not very good. In other games, he's a fucking monster and pretty easy to pick up.
Soul Calibur IV Ivy is hard to learn and master, yet when you do, she's like the most interesting character in a fighting game.
She's trash in Soul Calibur V though, very boring... saddly.
Soul Calibur IV Hilde is also very unique and interesting.
Virtua Fighter characters need some dedication. I like Aoi, but she's not easy to learn.
She's trash in Soul Calibur V though, very boring... saddly.
Soul Calibur IV Hilde is also very unique and interesting.
Virtua Fighter characters need some dedication. I like Aoi, but she's not easy to learn.
thesolidshark
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Best answer imo, plus Combot, Edge Master, etc.
My favorite complicated fighter, next to Chin from KOF XIII
Add Jhun Hoon to that. Love the KOF styling characters.
Cancel heavy characters in MOTW, like Terry, can be pretty demanding. You have to have lighting quick reflexes and be ready to perform a multi cancel combo at any second. That said, I never reached mid/high level in MOTW so maybe it gets easier once you've played for a few months.
mrmickfran
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Any character with "charge" moves.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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You literally never see Jill in Marvel3 being used because of the insane amount of execution necessary to make her even viable. I've see Clockwork do some wild shit with her in level 3 Xfactor beast mode, but your average human can't get close.
Tyrant Rave
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I-No from Guilty Gear XX Accent Core.
HCL 6FRC6 is one of the hardest things I've seen in a fighter and it's necessary to play her well.
HCL 6FRC6 is one of the hardest things I've seen in a fighter and it's necessary to play her well.
panama chief
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high level Fox is a beast like no other
shit. thats insane
The problem with c viper is that you need to know execution techniques that aren't really explained at all in the game. Meterless fadc. Fierce feint fierce. Tk seismos. Sjcs ultra from normals. If I had an all in one guide I would probably put effort into learning her but all of the info is segmented across many different resources.
My pick is ash from kof 13 though.
My pick is ash from kof 13 though.
InfiniteCombo
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Wow, I came to post exactly these two. Also, fighting against someone who has mastered them is no fun, since I generally have no freaking clue what's going on
nailbombxx
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Kazuya from Tekken. If you really must master this character at a high level you'll be relying on movement, wiff and block punishers with EWGF to do any real damage. This is because he has almost no abusable pokes and must rely on mixups and punishing.
Meanwhile characters like Bob and Miguel can jab you to death.
Meanwhile characters like Bob and Miguel can jab you to death.
Eternal Gamer
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This is what came to my mind as soon as I read the title of the thread.
Yep. Might be harder to play as than the other ASW puppet characters I know of: GG's Eddie and P4A's Shadow Labrys.
Only having in-depth knowledge with P4A, Aigis is also one of the hardest characters to master that I know of.
stn
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SF4:
C. Viper - needs high execution
El Fuerte - his run loop is really hard
Gen - stance changes
Honda - piano'ing into HHS
Blanka - st. jab into electricity piano'ing
SFxT:
Jin - special step cancels are hard
Kazuya - ditto
SF3:
Urien - charge partitioning
Remy - ditto
DOA5:
Akira - some of his commands are retarded
Hayate - his throw special is very hard to do
Hayabusa - its hard to time his counter into izuna
C. Viper - needs high execution
El Fuerte - his run loop is really hard
Gen - stance changes
Honda - piano'ing into HHS
Blanka - st. jab into electricity piano'ing
SFxT:
Jin - special step cancels are hard
Kazuya - ditto
SF3:
Urien - charge partitioning
Remy - ditto
DOA5:
Akira - some of his commands are retarded
Hayate - his throw special is very hard to do
Hayabusa - its hard to time his counter into izuna