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Harmonix: Activision Blocked Rock Band PS3 Guitar Compatibility Patch

Kbsmoker said:
no because they are screwing ps3 owners. Why should i be force to buy a THIRD guitar so i can have a full band.

You shouldn't. If Harmonix was going to sell the bundle they should ave included all need instruments and not assume everyone would have GH. It's obvious thats what they were hoping by not including it or selling one in stores.
 
krypt0nian said:
Good lord STFU.
it's not that i don't like music games, it's just that they don't have music i like :(

if they made a "steel pan band", i'd be all over it!

nicholasbrutal said:
According to my source (of the original rumor), there was definitely a legal team involved. I'm not sure if it's escalated beyond that, though.
bah the threat of legal action shouldn't be that overwhelming.

plus sony would look good, fighting on the side of justice and good will for gamers, even if they lost.
 
Vyse The Legend said:
This has nothing to do with the quality of the RB guitars, so take that drek elsewhere. The issue, here, is that Harmonix released a standalone copy of RB for PS3, and there is no guitar on the market that works with it.


Then Harmonix should release a standalone guitar. Why should they have to depend on another developers hard work so they can take advantage of it due to their own laziness to not produce standalone instruments.
 
gcubed said:
this wont piss EA off, there was never explicit support stated for GH controllers. The only reason it works for the 360 is because they had an existing controller on the market already.
of course it will. this nerfs the standalone Rock Band which no doubt costs them lots of christmas sales. they stand to lose much more than Activision does financially i'd argue.
 
The Faceless Master said:
it's technically possible, MS would just have to disable the id that identifies the rock band controller model while guitar hero is running.

would they do it?

very doubtful.

I wanna see anyone try and force MS to give upsome of the iron fisted control of periferals on the 360. MS has teams and teams of lawyers ready for stuff like this. MS with its deep pockets could delay any decision for years and force activision to spend a ton of cash to really get nothing since it will be time for a new gen by the time it is decided in court.
 
mysticstylez said:
Then Harmonix should release a standalone guitar. Why should they have to depend on another developers hard work so they can take advantage of it due to their own laziness to not produce standalone instruments.
It's not as if they won't, it's just that they haven't done it yet. Plan is for the release to be in January.
 
mysticstylez said:
Then Harmonix should release a standalone guitar. Why should they have to depend on another developers hard work so they can take advantage of it due to their own laziness to not produce standalone instruments.

That's... wow. Just wow.
 
angelfly said:
You shouldn't. If Harmonix was going to sell the bundle they should ave included all need instruments and not assume everyone would have GH. It's obvious thats what they were hoping by not including it or selling one in stores.
WTF! I don't want three guitars. I only need 2. I brought GHIII so i could use the guitar for rockband also, just like a lot of x360 owners do.

Like normal ps3 owner get shitted on.....
 
OH HOLY FUCK. I didn't know Harmonix released a standalone Rock Band, with no guitar on the market to go with it.

FUCK! This is the worst fucking thing ever!
 
mckmas8808 said:
SONY COULD GET SUED!!!!!!

**** some of you guys don't ****ing think some ****ing time.

I don't think so. Is Activision really going to sue a company that makes them a shitload of money, over something that will likely cost them very little?
 
Activision has quickly replaced EA in the most evil video game company department.

Luckily I don't need to play any Activision game until next IW game so that will be at least two years.

No I don't play PC game either but I don't see Blizzard being part of it.
 
Lightning said:
But they are in a position to piss EA off? Madden 09 and Fifa 09 Wii/360 exclusive would be brilliant for Sony, now wouldn't it?


This wouldn't piss off EA.
 
Really is a huge dick move.

I would have cried when it happened, but it's really looking like they should have pushed Rock Band into next year when they could keep up with instrument production. I hope they are recalling/asking stores to set aside the stand alone games and providing refunds to people who are stuck with an unplayable game until the guitars are out.

Microsoft better not cave, I cant really play with the strat, I love the buttons but really need the click of the Les Paul strummer to play fast sections.

I already regretted buying GH3 before this fiasco, but GH4 is now a definite no-buy, if things don't change.
 
Activision probably told Sony, "Don't release the patch or we no longer make PS3 games." Sony obviously has to comply. Now their are small rumours they go after the 360 camp. Forcing harmonix to develop a patch for their game otherwise they pull their game library from Microsoft.

Their reason for it could be people who have not bought anything yet will probably only get one or the other and they assume because theirs is only 100$ people will learn that way. But it's stupid because many people would buy both. If Activision made RB guitars compatible everyone with a PS3 would eventually buy both. There would almost not be a reason if you truly liked these music games.

It's stupid though because people liked using the LP guitar because of it's better build and people would have probably bought a 2nd LP to use with GH and rockband. All they are doing now is looking like the bad guy.

Now they have a worse rep than Sony's PR staff and this is only making them look like the next EA (giant corperation that doesn't give a FLYING FUCK about its customers).

Fuck Activision!
 
Correct me if I am wrong. Wasn't RB orignially programmed to work with GH3's guitar, then some "glitch" happened so they were forced to release a patch? And obviously, Activision must give them the green light at first place, explicitly or implicitly. Why does Activision do a 180 turn all of sudden?
 
mysticstylez said:
Then Harmonix should release a standalone guitar. Why should they have to depend on another developers hard work so they can take advantage of it due to their own laziness to not produce standalone instruments.

if you're a GH3 owner you would've had another game that could've worked with your guitar, Activision's limiting your choice, they're not doing you any favors
 
Timedog said:
I don't think so. Is Activision really going to sue a company that makes them a shitload of money, over something that will likely cost them very little?


YES!!! DIDN'T YOU SEE THEY HAVE LAWYERS INVOLVE!? Why can't you gaffers get it? Why would Sony be willing to get sued yet again?
 
mckmas8808 said:
SONY COULD GET SUED!!!!!!

**** some of you guys don't ****ing think some ****ing time.

You don't think they are sued every day? They should release the patch until ordered other wise by a court of law. If sony,ms or nintendo caved at the mention of a lawsuit they would be out of business.
 
I think people forget that Rock Band is essentially Karaoke Revolution Volume 5, and that people can still sing to the PS3 version and have fun.
 
Keyser Soze said:
You do know that that means you'll be giving up Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero, Call Of Duty, Warcraft, StarCraft, Diablo, World of Warcraft, Crash Bandicoot, Spryo. Not to mention new game unnamed IP's from Bizarre Creations, Infinity Ward, Neversoft, Blizzard Entertainment, Massive Entertainment, Radical Entertainment, Sierra Entertainment.

Sad times for you :(

Wrong. Activision and Blizzard, whilst under the same banner, will most likely hold separate rights to design and implementation decisions for their separate franchises. So cursing Blizzard Entertainment has absolutely no relevance for this situation.

I'm in the camp that believes RB shouldn't have gambled on third party peripherals if they really cared about their fans in the first place.
 
quest said:
You don't think they are sued every day? They should release the patch until ordered other wise by a court of law. If sony,ms or nintendo caved at the mention of a lawsuit they would be out of business.


And what about respect and integrity to your clients? Do they want to piss Activision off?
 
They are releasing stand alone guitars, come the spring. The problem is what am I and countless others going to do in the mean time. Play single player on both version, instead of the way they are supposed to be played... with friends.

GH3 doesn't have standalone guitars either, I was hoping they worked both ways.
 
Lightning said:
PS3 version of COD4 is selling very well last I checked... I hardly see reason for Activison to be complaining.

:lol I'm not sure which is funnier, the fact that you think one has to do with the other, or the fact that you found an opportunity to pimp COD4 sales (anecdotal except for some ordinal sales numbers in EU) on your platform of choice in this thread.
 
Super_Chicken said:
Activision probably told Sony, "Don't release the patch or we no longer make PS3 games." Sony obviously has to comply. Now their are small rumours they go after the 360 camp. Forcing harmonix to develop a patch for their game otherwise they pull their game library from Microsoft.

Their reason for it could be people who have not bought anything yet will probably only get one or the other and they assume because theirs is only 100$ people will learn that way. But it's stupid because many people would buy both. If Activision made RB guitars compatible everyone with a PS3 would eventually buy both. There would almost not be a reason if you truly liked these music games.

It's stupid though because people liked using the LP guitar because of it's better build and people would have probably bought a 2nd LP to use with GH and rockband. All they are doing now is looking like the bad guy.

Now they have a worse rep than Sony's PR staff and this is only making them look like the next EA (giant corperation that doesn't give a FLYING FUCK about its customers).

Fuck Activision!

Could they even go after the 360 Les Pauls?
 
Super_Chicken said:
Activision probably told Sony, "Don't release the patch or we no longer make PS3 games." Sony obviously has to comply. Now their are small rumours they go after the 360 camp. Forcing harmonix to develop a patch for their game otherwise they pull their game library from Microsoft.

Their reason for it could be people who have not bought anything yet will probably only get one or the other and they assume because theirs is only 100$ people will learn that way. But it's stupid because many people would buy both. If Activision made RB guitars compatible everyone with a PS3 would eventually buy both. There would almost not be a reason if you truly liked these music games.

It's stupid though because people liked using the LP guitar because of it's better build and people would have probably bought a 2nd LP to use with GH and rockband. All they are doing now is looking like the bad guy.

Now they have a worse rep than Sony's PR staff and this is only making them look like the next EA (giant corperation that doesn't give a FLYING FUCK about its customers).

Fuck Activision!

LOL I wanna see activision pull games from the 360 might as well go out of business since you know 360 owners buy games. Good luck to activison trying to stay in business making PS3/Wii games.
 
eXxy said:
Dude, shut up.


You shut up. ****! So what will 1Up say about this story? What's going to be your headline?

Sony kills Rock Band....get the 360 version today?!
 
Super_Chicken said:
Activision probably told Sony, "Don't release the patch or we no longer make PS3 games." Sony obviously has to comply. Now their are small rumours they go after the 360 camp. Forcing harmonix to develop a patch for their game otherwise they pull their game library from Microsoft.
Surely, Activision will be worse off whatever happens?
Let's say Sony releases the patch against Activision's will. If Activision pulls out of the PS3 game making, they can't make as much money. If Activision sues and Sony gets pissed off by that and pulls their license, Activision make less money.
Heck, and by not allowing the patch to be released they lose potential revenue from GH3 bundle/guitar sales from RB players.

I've probly got a bit of this backwards, but as I see it, the only good option for revenue, public image and for consumers is to release the patch.
 
It would be really cool of EA to offer a rebate on the stand-alone guitars (when they're released) to anyone who bought the PS3 game-only versions. Say, have a printable form on their website, and you'd cut out the UPC from the game and send it in with the form and receive a $20 rebate for your wait.

I almost made it all the way through typing that without laughing.
 
FF_VIII said:
Could they even go after the 360 Les Pauls?
Yea they could probably twist microsoft's arm they same way they did sony's. Tell them to stop Rock Band's DLC or online patchs until they remove the LP from the game. Otherwise every Activision game will be PS3/Wii exclusive. Obviously Microsoft wants it's Tony hawk games.

They only way we all win is if Microsoft and Sony collectively team up and tell ACTIVISON TO FUCK OFF!!!

That would be sweet, game companies unite to destroy smaller more vulnurable companies!
 
mckmas8808 said:
You shut up. ****! So what will 1Up say about this story? What's going to be your headline?

Sony kills Rock Band....get the 360 version today?!

They'll probably act like they have this insider information, talk about how awesome Beard Rock was (although none of them played on Expert), then go on to that elusive ego they have.
 
Eel O'Brian said:
It would be really cool of EA to offer a rebate on the stand-alone guitars (when they're released) to anyone who bought the PS3 game-only versions. Say, have a printable form on their website, and you'd cut out the UPC from the game and send it in with the form and receive a $20 rebate for your wait.

I almost made it all the way through typing that without laughing.
With the free Simpsons Game for people waiting for repaired guitars, it actually sounds like something that could happen.
 
mckmas8808 said:
And what about respect and integrity to your clients? Do they want to piss Activision off?

Do they wanna piss off EA? IF Ea pulled madden it is over for sony they might as well quit selling thePS3 in NA. They should not cave once you show weakness others will come after you. I would not blame sony if there was a court order but they wimped out with out a fight.
 
KLoNe said:
Fuck You Activision. Please don't let Blizzard turn into a bunch of cunts.

They already are. While WOW is/was a pretty great MMO, right now the dev team is making decisions that make Hellgate look brilliant. Their class balancing is complete and utter trash with any given class being overpowered as hell one month and completely gimped the next. And for as much money pouring into the game, they reinvest so little of it back into the game that its disgusting. They are even too cheap to buy some more servers to host arena matches, so queues to actually play the game are staggeringly long because they had to hardcap the amount of matches because of infrastructure concerns (something they admit they have no intention of truly fixing). I'm literally ashamed to be playing the damn game anymore, but they've essentially crushed the competition and as a pvp focused mmo player, playing on dead servers of better games doesnt really work.
 
tino said:
Activision has quickly replaced EA in the most evil video game company department.

It's about time I've read this on GAF. I've been saying this for like, two years now :lol

You'd think that they would do the right thing ... you know, for consumers. For people who enjoy music games. Show a little class for once in their shitty existence. Instead they use it as another excuse to piss all over the company that made it possible for them to sell millions of copies of some piece of shit that they dared to call "Guitar Hero."

You'd think they would ... but they're Activision.
 
JonathanEx said:
With the free Simpsons Game for people waiting for repaired guitars, it actually sounds like something that could happen.

You know, I forgot about that. Maybe people should start dropping emails to EA about it.
 
Super_Chicken said:
Yea they could probably twist microsoft's arm they same way they did sony's. Tell them to stop Rock Band's DLC or online patchs until they remove the LP from the game. Otherwise every Activision game will be PS3/Wii exclusive. Obviously Microsoft wants it's Tony hawk games.
I honestly don't think Activision has the power to boss around MICROSOFT of all companies to remove something from another companies game which is already in there.
 
quest said:
Do they wanna piss off EA? IF Ea pulled madden it is over for sony they might as well quit selling thePS3 in NA. They should not cave once you show weakness others will come after you. I would not blame sony if there was a court order but they wimped out with out a fight.


Explain to me why this would piss EA off and hate Sony? Does RB say it works with the GHIII guitar on the PS3 box?
 
Link316 said:
if you're a GH3 owner you would've had another game that could've worked with your guitar, Activision's limiting your choice, they're not doing you any favors
EA isn't doing me any favors by not offering me any choice but the bundle for PS3. No one is a good guy here.
 
JonathanEx said:
I honestly don't think Activision has the power to boss around MICROSOFT of all companies to remove something from another companies game which is already in there.

You never know, would Microsoft want to lose Activision as a developer? Especially after Cod4 and GH3's (well I don't know about now) Success?
 
mckmas8808 said:
Explain to me why this would piss EA off and hate Sony? Does RB say it works with the GHIII guitar on the PS3 box?

They are blocking a patch they made is why. There is a reaon EA/HMX is patching the game for added guitar support. If I am EA brass I am pissed off at sony for caving with out a fight. If they had a court order fine then EA could battle activision in court but no sony just wimped out.
 
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