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Harmonix announces Rock Band Rivals paid expansion for Rock Band 4
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Keyser Soze
Member
That must hit a little close to home for Harmonix
Crimsonclaw111
Member
This doesn't even have new songs, pass.
What a joke
Duane Cunningham
Member
Hahahaha
Literally my first thought and I wouldn't be surprised if the narrative is sort of meta that way.
Devilgunman
Member
I thought they've moved on to work on a new game.
Well, there are songs you get if you pre-order the expansion, but they're not going to be exclusive to it, nor should they be.
For the PDP-published version of the game, they're also giving away a pair of pretty big pop-rock singles with Amazon pre-orders:
•Maroon 5 "One More Night"
•Matchbox 20 "3AM"
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
And so continues the absolutely baffling trajectory of Rock Band 4.
Ten songs with a pre-order, twelve if you do it from Amazon. But IMO, not all of them are good and they are only with a pre-order.
Looking at the responses, I'll keep this short.
HeisenbergLannister
Member
An expansion with only new songs with pre-orders and they bothered releasing new guitars/band kits yet again?
R.I.P. Harmonix
R.I.P. Harmonix
FYI, these are the songs you get for pre-ordering:
Bring Me The Horizon Happy Song
Capital Cities Safe and Sound
Eagle-Eye Cherry Save Tonight
Pharrell Williams Happy
The Neighbourhood Sweater Weather
Of Monsters And Men Little Talks
Semisonic Closing Time
Sia Chandelier
Skillet Feel Invincible
Weezer King of the World
And these 2 are exclusive to Amazon pre-orders:
Maroon 5 One More Night
Matchbox Twenty 3 AM
All will be available as DLC at some point.
Bring Me The Horizon Happy Song
Capital Cities Safe and Sound
Eagle-Eye Cherry Save Tonight
Pharrell Williams Happy
The Neighbourhood Sweater Weather
Of Monsters And Men Little Talks
Semisonic Closing Time
Sia Chandelier
Skillet Feel Invincible
Weezer King of the World
And these 2 are exclusive to Amazon pre-orders:
Maroon 5 One More Night
Matchbox Twenty 3 AM
All will be available as DLC at some point.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Aside from online multiplayer, which will be included in the expansion, what else really is there to add?
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
As much as I love Rock Band and would love new content, locking all of those previously announced features like online play behind the pay wall is pretty scummy since that shit should have been in the base game in the first place. We did pay $60+ for this game at launch, Harmonix, and it shipped with half of the stuff found in previous Rock Band titles.
That being said, I'm a whore and I'll still buy it.
That being said, I'm a whore and I'll still buy it.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Not including any songs is a fucking joke. You gotta be kidding me... pre-order only? This is gonna come back to bite them on the ass.
"We would divide the userbase"
So locking online/story in this expansion isn't dividing the userbase?
ShockingAlberto
Member
Goddamnit I was highlighting the quote already to make this joke.
They never said anything about online play until Rivals was announced. It was never promised for free.
I don't recall them previously announcing online play, just that it was too expensive of a feature for them to get out with RB4.
RB4, and anything Harmonix does now, is hard to compare to previous titles given the publishing support they had back then.
I don't see how they could afford to release it for free. I doubt the DLC sales are what they were during the RB1/2/3 days.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Yeah, it's kind of crazy that RB4 even released in today's market to be honest, looking at the size of their team now. Hell, I'm still surprised that they managed to get a ton of hardware forwards compatible with the new systems, and that all of our entitlements for thousands of songs are still being sorted through and negotiated with record labels even to this day.
PROh1bited
Banned
I love how people are getting mad about an expansion. Would you like them to keep churning out a new game year after year?
I'd rather have an expansion that adds to the base game, which by the way, at this point is only really missing online atm. They've added things back in over the year.
I'd rather have an expansion that adds to the base game, which by the way, at this point is only really missing online atm. They've added things back in over the year.
PROh1bited
Banned
These guitars and band kits are much cheaper then last year at launch. And it includes the expansion.
I think people are more angry that they are releasing this stuff as a paid expansion when the base game was so bare bones, not that it is an expansion per se.
StereoVsn
Member
Yeah, $72 with bonus songs and expansion and guitar sounds a lot better then vanilla for $130.
I'd at least like them to match my 6 year old game first, and if you think online is the only thing wrong with the base game... you probably need to play it more.
CastleRybread
Member
So sixty dollars for online and to be able to use an xplorer. Ridiculous
Dyson Industries
Banned
No new songs in a paid expansion for a music game. Harmonix stahp
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
From what I recall, they announced all of this stuff along with Rivals, which made it seem like Rivals was a separate product and the updates were for everyone. They never stated that all of it was bundled together from what I remember. I was under the impression that they were boosting the game's feature set due to complaints and then selling Rivals as an expansion. We really knew nothing about Rivals or its pricing until now.
I understand why they're doing this. These features aren't cheap to develop, but as an owner of Rock Band 4 who was disappointed with the overall package, I feel like some of these should have been free content updates. It is what it is though.
Wired guitars don't work with the adapter, only Ion Kits and MIDI Kits
and maybe the stage kit
PROh1bited
Banned
I play it a lot. If we really wanna get into the nitty gritty of what is missing from RB3, I'll list it.
-Keys(never coming back, no one played them)
-Online(Coming)
-Challenges(Coming with Rivals)
-Bass boost(not in)
-Effects switch(Not in)
They've also said that there's still gonna be free updates , such as the new song selection and ratings system.
PROh1bited
Banned
Yeah, but they've added to what RB4 launched as. They've added, setlists, practice mode, expanded stats and more.
Yep. I wish that they were priced that cheap a year ago. This is a great price for newcomers.
It's just like seeing a washed up band do a pathetic reunion tour for some quick cash.
Harmonix is just being authentic. :^)
Neuromancer
Member
Funny and painful at the same time.
When you put it that way this is actually pretty appealing. I may bite even though I have and love Guitar Hero Live already.
PROh1bited
Banned
http://www.polygon.com/2016/7/19/12...pansion-career-rockudrama-multiplayer-preview
Yeah, it's really fallen off a cliff. I wished it stayed dead as well.
I've been playing several times a week since launch, outside of online and keys (which I've accepted are never coming back), my only gripe is my missing track pack exports and delisted dlc, and I say that as someone that bought that damn keyboard for full price back in the day.
Spending most of your cash on independence will do that.
That said, Rock Band 4 doesn't kick me back to the XMB constantly, so that's a huge win over 3 for me.
Many of the first bundles shipped also include a voucher for a free mic, too.
I'm just talking about things that are wrong with the base game first, not things that are missing
Disappearing Notes at random while playing in Full Band (Granted, this one is rare, it still occurs and is enough to break combo), FPS Drops at random along with micro stutters, especially in long songs, heck, it took me two attempts to FC Jesus Of Suburbia today because of the game stuttering at random in the middle of the song, audio glitches, long load times etc.
Calibration issues - Calibration is still a total nightmare in the game, I have to recalibrate pretty much every time I play the game, along with every time I change instrument
Drum Issues - Drumming in this game is still pretty bad, it struggles with faster notes, struggles registering most things etc
That's ontop of some legacy bugs still existing such as
99% Vocal Glitch - The game will sometimes accidently list a vocal FC as 100%, this has been present since The Beatles Rock Band.
Vocal Band 8x Overdrive scoring glitch - Present since RB3.
RB4 has improved yes, but it still has a long way to go, that's not even mentioning stuff like delisted DLC still not being present, or as a european with a PS4 (This problem is actually so bad i've had to switch back to my Xbox for Rock Band 4), the exports and currently listed DLC being still marked as PS3 only. I can buy a pack in the Rock Band 4 store and be told I can't download it
origamipirate
Member
... I very much want to buy this to support HMX, but the lack of new songs makes it really hard. I still have people over for RB pretty regularly but we're Quickplay folks that play together IRL pretty much exclusively even back when RB did have online stuff. IDK that there's much here for groups like mine.