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[SNG32]

Do you think the Japanese developers are making more games on PC then they are on console? I noticed that a lot of gacha titles that are on mobile are starting to get pc ports before console. I also noticed alot of Chinese games get released to PC before console as well.

I know Squares main platform for final fantasy is PlayStation but eventually it does make its way to PC. Thoughts?

 

[nial]

For gacha games it's mostly because a vast majority of them also target the rest of East Asian countries, all of which have a huge PC userbase compared to consoles.

 

[BennyBlanco]

You get the best selection of moneyhatted games from Nintendo and Sony

Etc etc etc. And you get the best version of all the multiplats.

 

[Mr Hyde]

It's great to see japanese devs embrace PC. It took a long time but now they are fully on board making tons of cash. Capcom, Square and From Software are the biggest supporters I think and have the biggest audience.

 

[SNG32]

It's great to see japanese devs embrace PC. It took a long time but now they are fully on board making tons of cash. Capcom, Square and From Software are the biggest supporters I think and have the biggest audience.

Atlus and Namco too. Atlus It took awhile to be confident with the Persona series but seems like they’re fully on board now.

 

[Celcius]

You get the best selection of moneyhatted games from Nintendo and Sony

Etc etc etc. And you get the best version of all the multiplats.

I wouldn't say the best version of ALL multiplats... for example, I'll stick with ff7 remake on my PS5 versus the PC version.
But yeah in general it's great to have this kind of japanese support for PC these days and PC is definitely my first choice. I always hoped it would get to this point.

I also hope that companies stop doing console timed exclusives at some point, like Square doing with FF7R, FF16, etc...

 

[Buggy Loop]

You get the best selection of moneyhatted games from Nintendo and Sony

Etc etc etc. And you get the best version of all the multiplats.

With mods too

And games that got much more graphically pleasing with high res high fps such as

 

[SNG32]

With mods too

And games that got much more graphically pleasing with high res high fps such as

Yes can’t forget the Mods of course. Daemon X Machina wasn’t a sequel for this announced last year for it?

 

[BennyBlanco]

I wouldn't say the best version of ALL multiplats... for example, I'll stick with ff7 remake on my PS5 versus the PC version.
But yeah in general it's great to have this kind of japanese support for PC these days and PC is definitely my first choice. I always hoped it would get to this point.

PC version of Intergrade runs fine in my experience, too bad about the game itself

With mods too

And games that got much more graphically pleasing with high res high fps such as

Epic Tim gave me this game for free, I should really try it sometime

 

[Celcius]

PC version of Intergrade runs fine in my experience...

Good to know, I had heard some people mention issues with the port but I guess those got fixed.
hmm, now you've got me considering double-dipping lol. The game is on sale too...

edit: Bought it and can confirm it runs fine on PC

 

[RoboFu]

Japan has ALWAYS supported PCs since the 80s. a lot of big Japanese developers got started on the pc88, pc98, MX/2, and x68000. Then they moved onto windows.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Good to know, I had heard some people mention issues with the port but I guess those got fixed.
hmm, now you've got me considering double-dipping lol. The game is on sale too...

I remember reading there were problems at launch on epic store

I played it last year after a sale on steam and it was stellar in performances and visual quality throughout the game.

 

[SNG32]

Good to know, I had heard some people mention issues with the port but I guess those got fixed.

Yes I beat the DLC story and it ran great for me.

 

[Ribi]

No.

 

[Mister Wolf]

You get the best selection of moneyhatted games from Nintendo and Sony

Etc etc etc. And you get the best version of all the multiplats.

This is why Square didn't even let Sony buy six months of exclusivity for FF7 Rebirth. I expect the port by the end of the year.

 

[Skifi28]

Not a big fan of some of the ports, granblue fantasy Relink was stuttering galore to the point of refunding, I'd rather ay the console version at 1080p but with zero issues. Many other games while generally fine, exhibit stutter that isn't there on the console version like re4 or just weird behavior in general. But at least they're trying these days.

 

[RoboFu]

Not a big fan of some of the ports, granblue fantasy Relink was stuttering galore to the point of refunding, I'd rather ay the console version at 1080p but with zero issues. Many other games while generally fine, exhibit stutter that isn't there on the console version like re4 or just weird behavior in general. But at least they're trying these days.

That game runs perfect on my pc. No stutters super fast load times at 4k.

 

[Celcius]

That game runs perfect on my pc. No stutters super fast load times at 4k.

Same, runs perfectly at 4K on my machine too.

 

[Denton]

Japan has ALWAYS supported PCs since the 80s. a lot of big Japanese developers got started on the pc88, pc98, MX/2, and x68000. Then they moved onto windows.

1998 - 2012 japan was heavily focused on consoles. PC got very rare ports of only the biggest games and those ports sucked ass as a rule (MGS2, SH2, Resi 4..)

Japan started supporting PC fully only after Dark Souls PC port was a smash hit (and that game was never supposed to come to PC, only a 100K signed fan petition made that happen).

 

[RagnarokIV]

Boys, someone tag the Japanese user on GAF who schooled the last guy re Metal Gear, MSX and the Japanese home computer market.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

No, but it's improving.

 

[lh032]

if u mean the weebo trashy games, i guess so.

 

[MikeM]

I wouldn't say the best version of ALL multiplats... for example, I'll stick with ff7 remake on my PS5 versus the PC version.
But yeah in general it's great to have this kind of japanese support for PC these days and PC is definitely my first choice. I always hoped it would get to this point.

I also hope that companies stop doing console timed exclusives at some point, like Square doing with FF7R, FF16, etc...

Playing FFVII Remake on PC and runs great. The odd minor stutter but otherwise fantastic experience thus far.

 

[LRKD]

No, vanillaware is still console only, and quite a few of Nippon Ichi games as well. Hell even a big company like Sega, only 5 years ago released Sakura Wars only on ps4. There are plenty of games big and small that still miss pc releases.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I wouldn't say the best version of ALL multiplats... for example, I'll stick with ff7 remake on my PS5 versus the PC version.
But yeah in general it's great to have this kind of japanese support for PC these days and PC is definitely my first choice. I always hoped it would get to this point.

Plus multiplayer is also a huge factor for many (like me) with every PC game having hax.

 

[Danjin44]

 

[rodrigolfp]

If you don't count only AA and AAA games, yes, there is a sea of JP games on PC.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Never thought I would see a game like Granblue Fantasy do 100k CCU on Steam tbh.

 

[SmokedMeat]

PC continues to grow in popularity in Japan as well.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

This is why Square didn't even let Sony buy six months of exclusivity for FF7 Rebirth. I expect the port by the end of the year.

Do we know who didn't go through with the marriage?

 

[StereoVsn]

Do we know who didn't go through with the marriage?

Sony and SE? My guess is SE wanted too much cash for further delay. And that’s understandable once you start looking at sales numbers of bigger games on Steam.

Of course it’s SE so they are likely to release the game in EGS first which will tank its sales.

 

[Gambit2483]

PC continues to grow in popularity in Japan as well.

Yeah but...Nintendo is Japan, and they ain't putting shit on PC. Or are they excluded from this convo..?

 

[Mister Wolf]

Do we know who didn't go through with the marriage?

Whether it was Square asking for too much money, Square not offering at all, or Sony showing no interest, as long as I get the desired outcome that's all that matters. I'm going to surmise that it wasn't because of a lack of interest from Sony otherwise this game wouldn't be timed exclusive at all.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Yeah but...Nintendo is Japan, and they ain't putting shit on PC. Or are they excluded from this convo..?

What makes you think they’re excluded? PC gets plenty of JRPGs that Nintendo doesn’t.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Japanese specifically? No. While its true there are a few indie and AA devs that priotitize PC, we still have the console manufacters prioritizing their own consoles, as well as some of the old time companies like SE or Vanillaware treating PC as secondary to non-existent.

Now, if were talking about eastern asian countries other than Japan? Like China, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand... then yeah. There are tons of game devs, indie to AA set in those places that treat PC as a main platform, or even forgo other platforms (apart from mobile) altogether.

 

[Dorfdad]

You get the best selection of moneyhatted games from Nintendo and Sony

Etc etc etc. And you get the best version of all the multiplats.

Beg to differ pc ports in 2022-2023 sucked so many porting issues with dx12 and more. I won’t buy a pc game until a week after launch to hear real reviews not excited kids

 

[Danjin44]

Vanillaware treating PC as secondary to non-existent.

Vanillaware:

 

[Guilty_AI]

Vanillaware:

I always find that extremely weird too, its not like they have deals with any console maker. A niche game developer like them should put their games on as many platforms as possible. Probably just poor management/decision making.

 

[Gambit2483]

What makes you think they’re excluded? PC gets plenty of JRPGs that Nintendo doesn’t.

My point was Nintendo, as a software company, produces many many "Japanese" games that do not, and will not, ever see the light of day on a PC (legally). Not about the JRPGs they do or don't get. Though that may change soon with Switch 2...who knows

 

[Danjin44]

I always find that extremely weird too, its not like they have deals with any console maker. A niche game developer like them should put their games on as many platforms as possible. Probably just poor management/decision making.

I'm not PC gamer but I'm big Vanillaware fan and I want to see them succeed, so making their games available in other platforms is ideal.

I especially puzzle about them releasing Unicorn Overlord on Xbox but not PC, that type of game has more audience on PC more than Xbox.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Whether it was Square asking for too much money, Square not offering at all, or Sony showing no interest, as long as I get the desired outcome that's all that matters. I'm going to surmise that it wasn't because of a lack of interest from Sony otherwise this game wouldn't be timed exclusive at all.

I am going to guess Sony it was Sony who made this decision which is the opposite of what your post says.

No one knows though.

Timed exclusives when PlayStation has em usually=better games.

 

[Buggy Loop]

My point was Nintendo, as a software company, produces many many "Japanese" games that do not, and will not, ever see the light of day on a PC (legally).

You can legally play Nintendo games on PC if you legally buy them and dump them onto an emulator.

 

[Gambit2483]

You can legally play Nintendo games on PC if you legally buy them and dump them onto an emulator.

 

[Danjin44]

 

[Tams]

It's okay OP; we already know you like visual novels.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Lol what?

I'm not PC gamer but I'm big Vanillaware fan and I want to see them succeed, so making their games available in other platforms is ideal.

I especially puzzle about them releasing Unicorn Overlord on Xbox but not PC, that type of game has more audience on PC more than Xbox.

Xbox probably pushed for it. They always put money into getting Japanese games on their platform despite it not selling just to show that they "care".

 

[IAmRei]

From japanese dev i met in last TGS, i heard that steam only 2% users there vs others. Kind of forgot about numbers but Mobile and Consoles is the most in The Japan.

 

[Lucumo]

Do you think the Japanese developers are making more games on PC then they are on console?

But they made more games for PCs than consoles at any point in time. It's just that big publishers are yet again somewhat shifting/adding focus.

 

[Hudo]

I'm not PC gamer but I'm big Vanillaware fan and I want to see them succeed, so making their games available in other platforms is ideal.

I especially puzzle about them releasing Unicorn Overlord on Xbox but not PC, that type of game has more audience on PC more than Xbox.

Yeah, I find it a bit weird that they omit PC for Unicorn Overlord. A Ogre Battle-like strategy game (that's at least the vibes I got from Unicorn Overlord so far) might not be the worst fit.

 

[Hudo]

x68000

Still one of the coolest PCs ever made.