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HBO's Westworld runs into problems, delayed, ego concerns + other woes

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hbos-100m-vinyl-disappoints-westworld-868605

Late last year, HBO stopped work on the pricey J.J. Abrams-produced Westworld, based on a 1970's sci-fi movie series. and with an enormous cast including Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris. Initially produced with Warners' TV production arm, HBO took back control after what sources call clashes with creator Jonathan Nolan, whose TV credit is the WBTV-produced Person of Interest on CBS. (HBO usually makes its own programming but works with Warners on The Leftovers.) Nolan is said to be every bit as controlling as his filmmaker brother Chris. Sources say cuts came in slowly, scripts started running behind, and it became apparent that episodes already shot needed tweaks requiring additional filming. Since stopping production, HBO persuaded Nolan to "put aside his ego," one source says, and has brought in two additional producers and two more writers. Production is set to resume in March.

"Westworld is wildly ambitious — on the page and on set," says Nolan. "In broadcast TV, it's been routine for us to write and shoot at the same time. This is a completely different animal. As we got closer to the final episodes, we realized we needed to take a break from shooting to catch up on writing. HBO and WBTV have been incredibly supportive throughout the process. It would have been literally impossible to make this show anywhere else."

Says WME co-CEO Ari Emanuel: "The great thing about HBO is they do take those shots. They back artists." But several HBO veterans lament the network suffers from the allure of big film names who have turned to the channel as the movie business became less hospitable. Noting that he's always kept his shows at or under his comparatively modest budgets, Simon says, "A lot of feature people have thought, 'It's HBO. The world is my oyster.' I saw the thing with David Fincher, and I can't imagine an argument with HBO over whether I can spend $100 million or $80 million." Star talent is hard to resist, continues Simon, but "it's got to be a tough dynamic. You want to do a project that you think might be glorious, but if they're all $100 million for the first season, you're going to exhaust your budget pretty quickly."

There's other stuff on HBO's woes, including Vinyl's less than stellar debut, but Westworld is highly anticipated and its from the creator of one the best television shows of the last twenty years, Person of Interest.
 
person of interest got pretty wack tbh. shit peaked with the HR arc/cookie lyon's run

this is a shame, show sounded really interesting. HBO's kind of faltering post-boardwalk empire in the drama front.
 
There's other stuff on HBO's woes, including Vinyl's less than stellar debut, but Westworld is highly anticipated and its from the creator of one the best television shows of the last twenty years, Person of Interest.

Is this for real or facetious? I've never heard anyone say a word, positive or negative, about that show.
 
Other projects shut down well into the process include two shows from David Fincher, a limited series from Steve McQueen and another on Lewis and Clark from producers Brad Pitt and Tom Hanks

WAIT WHAT.

THEY CANCELLED "CODES OF CONDUCT"?

WHAT THE FUCK.

IT SOUNDED SO COOL AND WITH REBECCA HALL AND HELENA BONHAM-CARTER, IT WAS A SUREFIRE WIN.

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THR has learned that McQueen's drama, Codes of Conduct, with Paul Dano, Helena Bonham Carter and Rebecca Hall, has been scrapped. The pilot was shot, and HBO had ordered a six-episode series before pulling out.

NOOOO.
 
Is this for real or facetious? I've never heard anyone say a word, positive or negative, about that show.

For real.

It's not as sexy a show as GOT or Empire so it doesn't get a lot of coverage but it's very very very very very good.
 
Interesting article. I had no idea Game of Thrones had a disastrous pilot that needed to be completely re-tooled. I kinda want to see it.
 
is leftovers actually entertaining? i heard it goes in some bizarre and interesting directions...but damon lindelof man.

The first season is a bit too melancholy and slow (great finale though), the second season was my favorite thing on tv last year. It's very lindelof, but he's cranking out his best work here.
 
Hopefully HBO is learning some very real lessons from all this and just stops giving feature directors carte blanche to fuck shit up. Limitations are not a bad thing. The best creative moments come with limits.
 
They keep cancelling the most exciting projects ...

HBO really need a new drama hit. I only watch GOT and the leftovers. Their other shows are pretty weak tbh.
 
Can't believe HBO had to scold Jonathan Nolan. The show writes itself and he is taking his sweet ass time on it? come on bruh.
 
I bet HBO are kicking themselves for dropping the ball on American Gods.

Fuller's gonna kill it. Have no doubts about that.

While I don't think HBO is in any danger of losing their premium status, they do need a drama hit. Vice and Simmons were good acquisitions but drama is their meat and potatoes.
 
HBO is having production problems left and right it seems. This, that McQueen show, the Casey Affleck Lewis and Clark show.....damn.
 
This is a sign that Nolan needs to continue Person of Interest...

HBO needs to give that man all the time he needs, Nolan proved in POI that if you give his writing team time, magic is shown on the television screen.

They better fix this asap though, this was my most anticipated show for the year.
 
So am I to understand that the Fincher/James Ellroy project is dead, too? Since Fincher is returning to Netflix?
 
It's amazing how unappealing HBO's current (and future) line-up seems. There's Game of Thrones and...that's about it.
 
I'm so fuckin mad they cancelled Codes of Conduct. Him and Sean Bobbit were shooting that thing, and my bae Rebecca Hall was there. Are you fuckin' kiddin me right now.
 
Interesting that novelist Charles Yu wrote one of the later Westworld episodes. I'm guessing this was after the shutdown.
 
Tell Pizzaman to get a fucking writers's room and then we can talk about being interested in another season of TD
What a fall from grace for Pizzaman.

From being a critical darling and beloved for making one of the best shows of all time.

To creating some of the worst schlock I've ever seen while taking petty cheap shots at good directors.
 
Hbo killed our utopia for no reason. Thanks hbo.

Disappointing as shit.

Rooney Mara would have been a great Jessica Hyde.

And I wanted to see how Fincher would fix some of the meandering the second season had (And maybe even, finish the story).

But alas.
 
This is soooo disheartening. The footage they showed us last year was fucking stellar, and I really wanted something cool to come from this.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just turn this into a one-season thing and just move on. I doubt they'd want to keep doing this for additional seasons.
 
Man, with Fincher's two shows and this....HBO needs to either get people they control to develop these things, or open up their checkbook.
 
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