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[Three]

Binaural is not for accurate positional sounds.

On good hps you will get benefit of that, but binaural is mostly to , for lack of better word, “immerse” you in soundscape.

This "immersion" is based on position and reflection of sound waves on your outer ears. It's to make the sound spatially accurate.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

This "immersion" is based on position and reflection of sound waves on your outer ears. It's to make the sound spatially accurate.

Normal recordings are spatially accurate. Like 100%.

With binaural recordings, you are actually reducing spatial accuracy by using mic in dummy ears and recording a reproduced sound.

Normal recordings take sound from source itself. Then are mixed in a track using high end equipment. That tech is highly mature.

 

[Three]

With binaural recordings, you are actually reducing spatial accuracy by using mic in dummy ears and recording a reproduced sound.

What? Why exactly do you think you place it in dummy ears spaced apart the exact same as real ears? It's for spatial accuracy of sound recordings.

Normal recordings take sound from source itself. Then are mixed in a track using high end equipment. That tech is highly mature.

Ok?

 

[vaibhavpisal]

What? Why exactly do you think you place it in dummy ears spaced apart the exact same as real ears? It's for spatial accuracy of sound recordings.

I have said this before in the thread.

Its to emulate speaker type listening on headphones.

With stereo speakers, each ear of a person hears both channels.

With stereo headphones (duh), each ear hear only one channel. To change this and make it sound like a speaker, they have to take this additional step of recording by putting mics in dummy ears.

This is quite a mature technique and you trying to discredit it is hilarious

 

[Three]

I have said this before in the thread.

Its to emulate speaker type listening on headphones.

With stereo speakers, each ear of a person hears both channels.

With stereo headphones (duh), each ear hear only one channel. To change this and make it sound like a speaker, they have to take this additional step of recording by putting mics in dummy ears.

This is quite a mature technique and you trying to discredit it is hilarious

I see that you don't understand anything about the subject at all.

 

[Three]

Got to love MS diehards, who don't know anything, coming to this thread to post laugh emojis about a subject matter they don't have the foggiest clue about. They see a subject that's a synonym for 3D audio, a company called 3DIO making the recording device and their takeaway is "binaural audio is to make it sound like stereo speakers not for spatial accuracy". How ignorant do you have to be?
All because I said you have to use simulated binaural audio (via HRTF for example) rather than use a binaural recording in games and they took that as a slight against their favourite corpo. How sad.

 

[YOU PC BRO?!]

Honestly, the less I listen to Senuas unhinged mental health ramblings the better...

 

[THE DUCK]

Let's not forget we have 2 ears. As headphone audio gets better and better, eventually it will be superior to any standard surround system. (No room reflections, potentially custom designed for listener, superior ability to recreate sound)

Not there yet but a lot of progress has been made the last 10-15 years.

 

[pasterpl]

Got to love MS diehards, who don't know anything, coming to this thread to post laugh emojis about a subject matter they don't have the foggiest clue about. They see a subject that's a synonym for 3D audio, a company called 3DIO making the recording device and their takeaway is "binaural audio is to make it sound like stereo speakers not for spatial accuracy". How ignorant do you have to be?
All because I said you have to use simulated binaural audio (via HRTF for example) rather than use a binaural recording and they took that as a slight against their favourite corpo. How sad.

Keep fighting a good fight.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Gutted, i'm going to be out of the country next week with work.

Won't get chance to play until next weekend.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Rocking’ these bad boys….

 

[Three]

Keep fighting a good fight.

Oh look another one. Even the dev in the article agrees that it's about spatially accurate sound yet here you have people saying silly things:

Crucially, with headphones on, I can hear where all of this is.

 

[King Dazzar]

Let's not forget we have 2 ears. As headphone audio gets better and better, eventually it will be superior to any standard surround system. (No room reflections, potentially custom designed for listener, superior ability to recreate sound)

Not there yet but a lot of progress has been made the last 10-15 years.

There's merit in that. But audio is also for me about feeling it. My ported SVS sub is amazing at hitting low down frequencies with such power, that you must be feeling it, even when the room isnt fully shaking. For the mids and upper frequencies, you can get amazing clarity and detail on headphones. But I'm sceptical about bass resonating through your body in the same way. I've also had subs literally moving air around the room. Its like you can feel them changing air pressure. Headphones cant do that.

Also, as good as the likes of surround audio is on headphones (I love PlayStations take) and object 3D placement. I'm not convinced its going to surpass dedicated full floor standing towers for surround channels.

 

[ManaByte]

I’m amazed at the amount of people who either never played the original, or did and are pretending to ignore the first game saying to play with headphones in order to troll.

 

[THE DUCK]

There's merit in that. But audio is also for me about feeling it. My ported SVS sub is amazing at hitting low down frequencies with such power, that you must be feeling it, even when the room isnt fully shaking. For the mids and upper frequencies, you can get amazing clarity and detail on headphones. But I'm sceptical about bass resonating through your body in the same way. I've also had subs literally moving air around the room. Its like you can feel them changing air pressure. Headphones cant do that.

Also, as good as the likes of surround audio is on headphones (I love PlayStations take) and object 3D placement. I'm not convinced its going to surpass dedicated full floor standing towers for surround channels.

That's a very good point about the subwoofer and moving of air. Ya it's definately not there yet but I have faith in science that eventually, at least for the sense of space and object placement, we will get there eventually.

 

[MrRenegade]

That binaural thing will surely wake the paranoia in the players. More shootings incoming in the US.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

There's merit in that. But audio is also for me about feeling it. My ported SVS sub is amazing at hitting low down frequencies with such power, that you must be feeling it, even when the room isnt fully shaking. For the mids and upper frequencies, you can get amazing clarity and detail on headphones. But I'm sceptical about bass resonating through your body in the same way. I've also had subs literally moving air around the room. Its like you can feel them changing air pressure. Headphones cant do that.

Also, as good as the likes of surround audio is on headphones (I love PlayStations take) and object 3D placement. I'm not convinced its going to surpass dedicated full floor standing towers for surround channels.

Daz, since you mentioned loving the PS5's 3D audio solution :
I keep reading of how good it is but, to be honest, I'm not feeling it.
I'm using the hyperx cloud alpha and while the sound output is nice, I just don't get the praise, even in games like Returnal which people say that it features amazing 3D audio.

Maybe the 3D audio is only good when using official Sony headsets where various presets/EQs get unlocked ?
Also tried RE8 which features a 3D audio option but...same thing.

I've enabled the 3D audio option in the PS5's settings and also calibrated it, am I missing something here ?

Cheers

 

[King Dazzar]

Daz, since you mentioned loving the PS5's 3D audio solution :
I keep reading of how good it is but, to be honest, I'm not feeling it.
I'm using the hyperx cloud alpha and while the sound output is nice, I just don't get the praise, even in games like Returnal which people say that it features amazing 3D audio.

Maybe the 3D audio is only good when using official Sony headsets where various presets/EQs get unlocked ?
Also tried RE8 which features a 3D audio option but...same thing.

I've enabled the 3D audio option in the PS5's settings and also calibrated it, am I missing something here ?

Cheers

I've only used the Pulse headsets. But I'd have thought it work well with any. Key thing is to ensure in game audio is always set to 5.1/7.1 etc, i.e normal surround output as though going to an AV receiver. So dont set in game audio to headphones, because you'd only be giving the PS5's OS audio, 2 channels to process - it needs all of them i.e 5.1 or 7.1. So in game DO NOT set to headphone and leave it all to the PS5's OS 3D audio settings. Basically anything that would be 5.1 or 7.1 output sounds superb going through the PS5's 3D headphone setting. 3D object placement is great on every game I've tried. It's far better than any other solution I've tried. The surround sound field is easily as good as the last gen headsets which used optical cables and dedicated dolby digital 5.1 decoding.

After that, if you're not getting proper/full 360 degree surround, then maybe its your headphones, but that doesnt make sense to me. The great thing about the Pulse headsets is there excellent full OS integration, but I'd have expected the surround to be similar on all headsets.

 

[ozz ex machina]

"is like nothing you have ever heard" - I know this is the articles headline but can we take this kind of hyperbolic bullshit out of thread titles. Especially when this is an article xbox are posting themselves.

Just reading that makes me less interested to ever give this game a chance.

 

[buenoblue]

My Dolby Atmos setup says no.

Exactly. I have a couple grand of Atmos amp and speakers including ceiling speakers and 2 subs

 

[Giallo Corsa]

I've only used the Pulse headsets. But I'd have thought it work well with any. Key thing is to ensure in game audio is always set to 5.1/7.1 etc, i.e normal surround output as though going to an AV receiver. So dont set in game audio to headphones, because you'd only be giving the PS5's OS audio, 2 channels to process - it needs all of them i.e 5.1 or 7.1. So in game DO NOT set to headphone and leave it all to the PS5's OS 3D audio settings. Basically anything that would be 5.1 or 7.1 output sounds superb going through the PS5's 3D headphone setting. 3D object placement is great on every game I've tried. It's far better than any other solution I've tried. The surround sound field is easily as good as the last gen headsets which used optical cables and dedicated dolby digital 5.1 decoding.

After that, if you're not getting proper/full 360 degree surround, then maybe its your headphones, but that doesnt make sense to me. The great thing about the Pulse headsets is there excellent full OS integration, but I'd have expected the surround to be similar on all headsets.

Thanks Daz, appreciate it brother

So, 3D audio turned on in the PS5 system/audio settings, in-game audio set to 5.1 or 7.1, correct ?

What about games like RE8 though ? Besides the basic output options (TV/surround/headphones), there's also a "enable 3D audio" one - what should i choose in this case ? 5.1 and let the PS5's in-built 3D audio do it's thing ? Am i correct in assuming that enabling the 3D/binaural option within the game settings while also having the PS5 3D audio feature activated could result in the sound being processed twice. ?

Cheers

 

[JackMcGunns]

"is like nothing you have ever heard" - I know this is the articles headline but can we take this kind of hyperbolic bullshit out of thread titles. Especially when this is an article xbox are posting themselves.

Just reading that makes me less interested to ever give this game a chance.

You’ve never heard the audio of Senua’s Saga, so it’s true

 

[King Dazzar]

Thanks Daz, appreciate it brother

So, 3D audio turned on in the PS5 system/audio settings, in-game audio set to 5.1 or 7.1, correct ?

What about games like RE8 though ? Besides the basic output options (TV/surround/headphones), there's also a "enable 3D audio" one - what should i choose in this case ? 5.1 and let the PS5's in-built 3D audio do it's thing ? Am i correct in assuming that enabling the 3D/binaural option within the game settings while also having the PS5 3D audio feature activated could result in the sound being processed twice. ?

Cheers

No worries, you're welcome.
Yes correct.
RE8 should be set to surround for audio out put device and do not enable virtual surround, as that's in game headphone setting, so leave off.

 

[Edgelord79]

First one has some terrific audio

 

[adamsapple]

First one has some terrific audio

This one has as well, arguably even better.

I posted about it in the OT there's a moment in the first 20~ minutes of the game where I had to take the headphones off because the screaming mix in the background felt like it was happening around me IRL. That's why, whenever anyone posts, I recommend them a decent pair of headphones. I don't think that kind of thing can be replicated with a surround system. I might be wrong.