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I feel like I don't get the joke.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Zeroth isn't really convincing anyone that mages aren't powerful try as he might.
I've spent like 16 dollars of my existing blizzard bucks on this game. I feel like I should stop playing it because the grind isn't really enjoyable anymore. One bad arena run and you feel like you've been dropped into poverty.
I've spent $6 and I have over 500 games played in arena. The only grind in the game is getting every class to 10. If the game isn't enjoyable after that, play something else.
Take a break and let the quests build up if you are in poverty.
Everyone gets out rnged sometimes even with good decks. It evens out though. Skill wins out in the long run.
Wait.. Hearthstone has drafting? Where and how do i do this?
michaelius
Banned
Arena mode.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I've played arena four times now and haven't gotten better than 2-3 yet. It would have been more cost efficient to just buy six packs instead, lol. But with arena the chance is there at least to do better, so I'll keep trying it when I can afford the gold. I like the concept of arena, I'm just not good at it apparently.
The problem is also compounded by constructed not being very rewarding and is much more expensive to play than arena. When you get daily quests that asks you to win with classes you don't have much unlocked cards of, you're pretty much hoping your opponent's deck sucks more than yours. Even if you get 3-3, it's not impossible that you get 0 gold in your winnings. So yes, it sucks. Where do you get the 500 games statistic from anyway?
I got 0 gold for 5 wins once, it was brutal. Nothing but dust.
AnathemicOne
Banned
So last night I played some practice games to unlock the basic priest cards. Went into ranked and...
I never was able to pull off so much damage with rogue or mage...
I never was able to pull off so much damage with rogue or mage...
So last night I played some practice games to unlock the basic priest cards. Went into ranked and...
I never was able to pull off so much damage with rogue or mage...
One silence though, and you're toast. It's a high-risk, high-reward combo.
Minsc
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Not that high risk if you can attack on the turn you double the health twice
I always kill those things immediately when they're summoned.They did say the iPad version was mid 2014 as well as the Andriod and iPhone right?
TouchArcade seem to think it's sooner
This quote suggests the iPad version is coming sooner, are they just guessing or did I miss an announcement?
TouchArcade seem to think it's sooner
This quote suggests the iPad version is coming sooner, are they just guessing or did I miss an announcement?
The Lamonster
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That's correct, iPad coming at or shortly after launch (early next year), with phone versions coming late next year.
Not that high risk if you can attack on the turn you double the health twice
Well, of course. I meant putting all your cards on that one monster, because that strategy would only work if it survived the turn it was brought on.
Definitely learned my lesson for drafting too many high mana cards in my priest run last night. Not like I had a choice though, I ended up with 7 or 8 6+ cards, but my options were only the big guys it seemed. It was a choice between a 5 mana, 8 mana, or 7 mana card repeatedly. Wound up with 4 minions under 5 mana, I was yelling at my computer to give me more cheap minions lol. 1-3.... Was a sad day, 5g for that 150 cost, cool stuff. Gotta love RNG, looking back on it the only thing I really could have done is maybe grab a few mind blasts to keep the mana lower, but there was still a severe lack of low minions.
This is exactly my problem with arena and why I call it RNG mania. I have played several arenas today. Every time I was forced into high mana cards due to them beeing only that. I realise alot of people in here win all the time and they will keep telling me that its a L2P issue. I would believe that if the draws where not so shitty.
I just won a game the best way possible:
A priest had two Northshire clerics out and he had just killed both of mine. So every turn I would heal as much as possible and eventually I drew him to fatigue without ever killing the priests. I healed 4 times and did 36 damage to him in a single turn.
A priest had two Northshire clerics out and he had just killed both of mine. So every turn I would heal as much as possible and eventually I drew him to fatigue without ever killing the priests. I healed 4 times and did 36 damage to him in a single turn.
Lactose_Intolerant
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The screen that tells you your quests and levels has wins. I had over 200 wins in arena before wipe, now I have 300 after the wipe. So I guess I have more than 500 games played since I didn't count losses.
I call foul on this. You rarely ever have only choices between like 6 mana creatures. it is usually like a 4-5-7 mana cards to choose from. Start picking stuff that sucks but fits the mana curve.
Unless you are playing paladin, you should be able to have a good spread. Occasionally you will get a deck that has like 4 2 drops, but that is very rare. That is basically picking the best cards and then not getting the 2 drops to come at the end to chose from. If you are really low after about 15 cards, you need to start making hard choices.
To anyone complaining about any element of Hearthstone - you need to remember that this is a free game.
That doesn't mean it is above criticism or is worth your time just because it's free. But it DOES mean that Blizzard doesn't owe you anything. They don't owe you more free gold, or more Arena rewards, or more cards in the free basic set.
Again, Blizzard doesn't owe you anything.
F2P game models have lots and lots of problems. I've written about this. But one advantage of freemium is that the developer only makes money when people are actually playing the game. So if Arena wasn't tuned right, if low rewards for 3-3 runs turned people away, if the mode was unpopular... Blizzard would be forced to re-tune it.
So if some specific element of the game turns you away, just stop participating.
That doesn't mean it is above criticism or is worth your time just because it's free. But it DOES mean that Blizzard doesn't owe you anything. They don't owe you more free gold, or more Arena rewards, or more cards in the free basic set.
Again, Blizzard doesn't owe you anything.
F2P game models have lots and lots of problems. I've written about this. But one advantage of freemium is that the developer only makes money when people are actually playing the game. So if Arena wasn't tuned right, if low rewards for 3-3 runs turned people away, if the mode was unpopular... Blizzard would be forced to re-tune it.
So if some specific element of the game turns you away, just stop participating.
Also that they are super lucky, most of us still dont have any beta keys or access to the game. Consider yourself extremely lucky to be able to even play it right now.
I pay money to play Arena, and because their servers are disconnecting AND they don't have a grace period for reconnects, I am directly losing money I've invested in the game.
I feel like I'm allowed to complain about that. Improper implementation of a feature to prevent people from losing money. If you put money-based features in a beta, make sure it at least works.
Trouble? None. They are just not fun. And I'm not playing enough to shrug it off.
You're losing money in a beta that will be given back to you once it goes live, so it's not that bad...
That's the purpose of a beta, right?
Hold on, Blizzard will give back any money spent on beta?
In the event of a wipe, they'll refund you (in the gold equiv) your paid-for packs/arena.
They're said they don't plan on another wipe for Beta, though.
Indeed, but the way that post was worded sounded like since this is a beta, they would give back any money spent on it after the game goes live, which confused me.
In my Arena run last night, one of my opponents went turn one Coin -> Murloc Tidehunter, turn two Mad Bomber. Killed both his murlocs, and hit himself in the face with the third bomb for good measure.
That's what I meant, that you'd get any money spent on the beta back when it's done. At least, that's how I understood it.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I am pretty sure that is not the case.
No, I won't get any money back/get it as gold. There won't be anymore wipes.
Bananajama
Banned
Just played against someone called Earthquaker
I was down to 1hp - he was on 23.
Turned it around and won
Apologies if you're on here!
Oh btw - if you don't log on, Daily quests deffo roll over - didn't check if there as a maximum
I was down to 1hp - he was on 23.
Turned it around and won
Apologies if you're on here!
Oh btw - if you don't log on, Daily quests deffo roll over - didn't check if there as a maximum
The max is 3.
Your point is contradictory. The best way for users to express what aspects of a free to play game are offputting is to complain in the hopes that they are changed. Blizzard is clearly paying attention to the community, which is why they are balancing cards based on what is most vocally being complained about and they upped the gold gains already. The free to play system in Hearthstone is still pretty busted though and actively dissuades people from playing the game. There should always be a path for progression, but right now players can only progress with dailies. As such I can log on for the day, clear out my daily quest in maybe five minutes, and then be left questioning if I should continue to play because I will not be rewarded.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Exactly. Blizzard should want feedback and critcism.
How are you clearing out a daily quest in 5 minutes?
none of the complaints arent even formed on the basis that Blizzard owes anybody anything.
balance complaints are fundamentally grounded upon the basis that this is a PvP game, which it is, since it always assumed that a broken PvP game is hardly worth playing at all.
Sometimes they take a long time. Like playing a bunch of five cost cards. Other times I'll get "win two games with warrior" and scrape the two wins up almost instantaneously. People are pretty willing to surrender early in constructed play once it begins to look like an uphill battle.How are you clearing out a daily quest in 5 minutes?
If you get "play a bunch of 5 cost cards", best way is to just wait for another quest and tag team it in the course of a natural play exp in Arena or normal mode.
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