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[Max_Po]

Just came across this

Essex lorry deaths - 39 migrants 'had no chance of survival' in -25C airtight trailer as driver is held for mass murder

A LORRY driver passed out when he opened the door to check some paperwork and discovered the bodies of 39 Chinese migrants, it has been reported. Dad-to-be Maurice ‘Mo’ Robinson, 25, i…

www.thesun.co.uk

Horrible

 

[The ninja farmer]

So sad and horrible

Such a terrible waste of life. Feel hollow inside that we live in a world that our leaders allow this to happen and others actually make money from these tragic events.

truly we live in very divided times and we seem to becoming more secluded and tribal, than coming together as a species and seeking to better ourselves and our brothers & sisters out there

there is a lot of healing needed out there, not just now. but for decades to come (especially with the path we seem to be on just now)

 

[Birdo]

They keep posting "Murder" everywhere, but this looks more like manslaughter. Some moron thought there would be enough air in that container for the whole trip. It happens all the time all over the world.

 

[Fushitsusha]

This happens all the time.

 

[Thaedolus]

They keep posting "Murder" everywhere, but this looks more like manslaughter. Some moron thought there would be enough air in that container for the whole trip. It happens all the time all over the world.

I thought so too but uhhh...the thing has a refrigeration unit that can hit -25C? It’s possible the guy did it on purpose.

 

[Trojita]

Knowing nothing about this, was he being paid to smuggle these people or is this like the Calais port issue where migrants are breaking into these trucks?

 

[Cybrwzrd]

I thought so too but uhhh...the thing has a refrigeration unit that can hit -25C? It’s possible the guy did it on purpose.

Why would you haul a truckload of refugicicles all the way from Bulgaria if the goal was to freeze them to death en route? Seems like an easy way to get caught.

 

[Trojita]

I thought so too but uhhh...the thing has a refrigeration unit that can hit -25C? It’s possible the guy did it on purpose.

It's much more important to know what the operating temperature was. 40 degrees faranheit is much different than -13 degrees farenheit, especially if you are properly prepared for 40 degrees. Is there air in a truck refrigeration unit?

 

[Max_Po]

Wow, I had no idea.....

 

[Thaedolus]

Why would you haul a truckload of refugicicles all the way from Bulgaria if the goal was to freeze them to death en route? Seems like an easy way to get caught.

Why does anyone commit mass murder? Fuck if I know. Could’ve been an accident for sure, that does happen all the time

 

[Nester99]

The word "murder" seems inaccurate.
Looks like a horrible case of criminal negligence causing death.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

The word "murder" seems inaccurate.
Looks like a horrible case of criminal negligence causing death.

Human trafficking is murder.

 

[Tesseract]

Human trafficking is murder.

it can certainly lead to murder and other heinous shit, but itself is not murder

 

[lil puff]

Whatever it ends up being, murder or manslaughter, with 39 bodies, it is 39 counts of death.

I hope they find and penalize all involved. I imagine this dude was on the lowest end of this trafficking chain, or whatever this is.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

it can certainly lead to murder and other heinous shit, but itself is not murder

How so? Most of the time people die when they are being transported like hotdogs. They are already committing a serious crime on top of another either way.

 

[Tesseract]

How so? Most of the time people die when they are being transported like hotdogs. They are already committing a serious crime on top of another either way.

sheep could probably elucidate here since i'm no legal junkie

p. sure intent is what makes the difference in cases where people are killed

yer right tho they are committing a fucked up crime, throw the book at them

 

[JimmyJones]

Pretty fucked up how they've plastered the Irish driver's face all over the news when he most likely had nothing to do with it.

 

[Thing on a Spring]

Driver lives about 20 minutes away from me. Have to see if my wife's wee brother knows him.

 

[Insane Metal]

So sad

 

[Kadayi]

Feel hollow inside that we live in a world that our leaders allow this to happen and others actually make money from these tragic events.

This is a tragedy, but I fail to see how it's the fault of any 'leaders' versus a bunch of opportunistic people smugglers tbh.

 

[lil puff]

This is a tragedy, but I fail to see how it's the fault of any 'leaders' versus a bunch of opportunistic people smugglers tbh.

The fact that these people are vulnerable to life conditions that lead them to this situation in the 1st place. Seems like oppression on both ends.

I mean when this is the most viable opportunity available, something's wrong that the common folk can't escape.

 

[Ornlu]

Pretty fucked up how they've plastered the Irish driver's face all over the news when he most likely had nothing to do with it.

Putting people's faces in the news before a conviction is so extremely wrong. I'll never understand that shit.

 

[Kadayi]

The fact that these people are vulnerable to life conditions that lead them to this situation in the 1st place. Seems like oppression on both ends.

I mean when this is the most viable opportunity available, something's wrong that the common folk can't escape.

So everything is simply fate?

 

[lil puff]

So everything is simply fate?

I'm not sure what that means.

My thought was that in some areas with horrid conditions, leadership (or lack thereof) plays a role.

 

[Kadayi]

I'm not sure what that means.

Do you believe that everything that happens in a person's life is outside their control? That what happens to them is pre-ordained?

 

[jdforge]

Seems the driver had been released without charge. Complete joke his name was ever released to the public

 

[Ornlu]

Seems the driver had been released without charge. Complete joke his name was ever released to the public

Time to sue and make some $$$!

Not having a 1st Amendment might actually be a good thing in his case!

 

[Blade2.0]

Do you believe that everything that happens in a person's life is outside their control? That what happens to them is pre-ordained?

Not everything but many things are outside our control.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

• The container was registered in Varna, Bulgaria
• The cab was registered in Northern Ireland
• The driver was from Northern Ireland
• the Cab was a refrigerated unit, down to -25 degrees celcius
• All of the people on board are dead.

This isn't a botched smuggling job. This is black market organ transplants.

 

[Tesseract]

Do you believe that everything that happens in a person's life is outside their control? That what happens to them is pre-ordained?

 

[Prison Mike]

Do you believe that everything that happens in a person's life is outside their control? That what happens to them is pre-ordained?

It comes down to the lottery of birth u find urself born in Europe states etc chances are if you find yourself in a lorry in Essex you made bad life choices born in 3rd world or war torn countries chances are that truck was a viable option

 

[Scotty W]

If he intended to do this, it does seem strange that, from what I can gather, he seems to have been travelling to his destination.

 

[KingGhidorah]

this is more like human trafficking gone terribly bad

 

[Mistake]

You don’t need to worry about zombies if they’re cold

 

[triplestation]

there's a hundred possibilities for what happened

all i can say is damn

it's under suspicion that it's murder

 

[crowbrow]

This is so sad, this world is so fucked up.

 

[Lanrutcon]

It comes down to the lottery of birth u find urself born in Europe states etc chances are if you find yourself in a lorry in Essex you made bad life choices born in 3rd world or war torn countries chances are that truck was a viable option

Yup, it's the sad truth of the world.

 

[VGEsoterica]

I saw the headline and was like "wait what"...story still doesn't make much sense

 

[jdforge]

If he intended to do this, it does seem strange that, from what I can gather, he seems to have been travelling to his destination.

If he intended to do this, it does seem strange that, from what I can gather, he seems to have been travelling to his destination.

It’s pretty obvious that the driver hasn’t done this. What’s not obvious is if he knew he was collecting a container full of dead bodies.

Social media in Northern Ireland amongst his friends and families and many other HGV Drivers are protesting his innocence.

Either way the media should not have released his name until such times as charges were made against him. At the moment he’s being questioned.

But his life is fucked is he’s innocent.

 

[tkscz]

I mean, it looks like manslaughter if he was aware of what the cargo was and if he wasn't aware, boy better start snitching his ass off.

 

[Breakage]

Latest news about this is that they all appear to be Chinese nationals. 31 men and 8 women.

 

[Ornlu]

Latest news about this is that they all appear to be Chinese nationals. 31 men and 8 women.

Must have clicked 'Like' on the wrong Hong Kong article.

 

[Breakage]

Must have clicked 'Like' on the wrong Hong Kong article.

Similar incident happened in Dover back in 2000. 58 people were found dead on that occasion:

Essex lorry deaths echo 2000 tragedy at Dover where 58 Chinese immigrants died | ITV News

A major crackdown on stowaways was launched 19 years ago after 58 bodies were found in an airless lorry container. | ITV National News

www.itv.com