So, which version of The Legend of Korra will you buy? Enlighten us about your preferences.
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Hideki Kamiya: "Multiple publishers turned down Bayonetta 2"
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So, which version of The Legend of Korra will you buy? Enlighten us about your preferences.
ninjablade
Banned
not really, considering we don't know how much copies the first print edition sold, we also heard something similar in japan, where it sold like it 68% of it's shipment, which means it's doing good.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
You picked Killzone as your choice in 3 entirely seperate threads.
- What game was the one you were most excited for and how did it meet your expectation?
- If you could tell a dev exactly what type of game you would buy...what would it be?
- Is CD Projekt Red currently Europe's best developer?
Pretty fucking telling dude.
Because it's Killzone, a pretty mediocre franchise outside the true believers.
Zevenberge
Member
I believe there were 15600 first-print editions for whole Europe. They were gone within a day or so.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
So what you want is for Platinum to work on Microsoft's funded game over Nintendo's funded game?
Whether you see Bayo 2 as a waste of development time or not, it's Nintendo who is footing the bill on development.
Whether it flops or not, thanks to Nintendo we're getting another badass sexy witch game and that's a great thing.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
This man digitaldevilsummoner.. smh enough dude
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
I have never heard of Legend of Korra. *looking it up* it's a game based on a Nickelodeon show. Not interested.
First of all you are insulting KZ 2, it's a highly regarded game. Secondly I also post about Spec Ops, FF and Dota. Give it a rest.
For once MS did something right. They are actually helping create a game, not feed on some franchise's popularity. Don't jinx it.
it's a fucking action game from action game gods platinum games. and the legend of korra is fucking rad.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
You never heard of platinum making legend of korra game? lol
KZ2 is really a shitty dull FPS that are really a dime a dozen.
the only thing of note in that game is the tech and the art behind it.
Really he's right on this one.
But it's a Platinum Games game. And Platinum Games it's not just Bayonetta, right? And you do want Platinum Games to work on multiplats, no? If you don't buy it, they won't get more multiplats contracts. What if they get another contract from Nintendo in that case, imagine the horror!
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I'd buy a Spongebob Platinum game.
Eolz
Member
Well it's not an exclusive, why would you care about a game like that? After all, Platinum is mainly known for Scalebound.
Actually we know. 15.3k. It's sold out everywhere.
I don't need to tell you that you are derailing another thread with sales talk, when the topic is not them, or that you said yourself that you don't care about Bayonetta, but you are present in every Bayonetta thread shitposting.
I'm sure you know all that.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
As highly regarded as Bayonetta 2 which you are saying would have been better to be cancelled than exist on a Nintendo console?
smh.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
Legend of Korra looks like a much smaller production actually.
He's a great Platinum Games fan, don't you know? So big fan that he's worried they wasted their time on making Bayonetta 2 instead of working on other games, like for example ... The Legend of Korra.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Lol, man but the guy was saying platinum is just not bayonetta but dont even know the games they are making
sad
Eolz
Member
It is (anarchy reigns team if I remember well?), but what's the problem with that?
I don't like the show but as a good platinum fan, will buy the game to enjoy their usual good fighting systems.
ninjablade
Banned
Naw it's more like platinum sends there games to die, they just don't know how to make or don't want to make something appealing to the masses, nintendo funded bayonetta 2 and devil's third cause they were probably cheap to fund and most publishers don't wanna invest cause they can see a failure in the making that will cause losses, nintendo on the other hand has very weak third party support, so they take the risk to get more support for the Wiiu and have a exclusive game that might sell a few console's.
Nah, he clearly just loved the Wonderful 101 and is highly looking forward to Scalebound.
Pyramid head
Banned
Platinum wanted to make Bayonetta 2 and nobody except Nintendo gave a shit. Now Platinum got to make it and we get to play it.
Your 'selfish' comment gave me a laugh though, so thanks for that. Christ.
Unbelievable how many people can hate on the fact that a much demanded niche game got made.
You know, I was a fan of Remedy and liked the original max payne games on PC, and followed the development of Alan Wake with interest, even though it was released on a console I never owned. But I would never not want that game to be made because I couldn't justify buying a x360 (as a european owning a pc/ps3/wii/ds) for myself.
You know, I was a fan of Remedy and liked the original max payne games on PC, and followed the development of Alan Wake with interest, even though it was released on a console I never owned. But I would never not want that game to be made because I couldn't justify buying a x360 (as a european owning a pc/ps3/wii/ds) for myself.
This has to be the shitty reasoning to attempt to "call someone out" I have ever seen on this website lol.
Orniletter
Banned
The ideas some people come up with just to NOT have Bayonetta on the WiiU are almost amazing.
Platinum should have kickstarted a 15 hours+ character action game with a budget...probably in the tens of million.
Bayonetta 2 should have been cancelled so Platinum can concentrate on Scalebound.
Like....holy shit
He is called DigitalDevilSummoner, Shin Megami Tensei games are all but exclusive to PS-systems save for some handheld scraps here and there AND he said how great the DualShock controller is compared to the awful Nintendo alternatives.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out which console(s) he prefers.
Platinum should have kickstarted a 15 hours+ character action game with a budget...probably in the tens of million.
Bayonetta 2 should have been cancelled so Platinum can concentrate on Scalebound.
Like....holy shit
He is called DigitalDevilSummoner, Shin Megami Tensei games are all but exclusive to PS-systems save for some handheld scraps here and there AND he said how great the DualShock controller is compared to the awful Nintendo alternatives.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out which console(s) he prefers.
Bayonetta 2 and Scalebound were/are developed by different teams as far as we know. Kamiya actually didn't work directly on Bayonetta 2 except for writing the story. And he worked previously on W101 and that was commissioned as far as we know way before the agreement with Microsoft regarding Scalebound (based on announcements made and how far in development are/were the games). And Platinum Games are big boys, they can handle multiple projects ats once, proven by the fact that they developed also The Legend of Korra in parallel. And all this is really great as they get paid for everything and they also get to make the games they want as they want (at list with Nintendo according to their statements). There is at list one Platinum Games game coming on every console/PC out there. Everyone should be happy.
My bad, I just thought it was stupid to bitch about DLC hats in multiplayer when the games we're comparing them to (Nintendo games) have no online modes to begin with. You're touting a false equivalency.
What are you even talking about? Here, I'll humor you:
cin·e·mat·ic
ˌsinəˈmadik/
adjective
of or relating to motion pictures.
"cinematic output"
having qualities characteristic of motion pictures.
"the cinematic feel of their video"
Naughty Dog's games are cinematic. Shadow of the Colossus is cinematic. David Cage's games are cinematic.
Neither AC nor FF7 resemble cinema in any meaningful way. I seriously have no idea what film-like qualities you are finding in these games other than the fact that they put emphasis on narrative.
I did, yesterday, in the first post of mine that you quoted which started this conversation to begin with. I was referencing something someone else said in this topic, but I forget the name.
But whatever, this is just becoming console war bullshit. If you really want to believe everyone not named Nintendo is scamming you with DLC and not making "real games" or whatever then you do you.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
the level of effort in looking at his post history is commensurate to the level of thought put into his arguments why it would be better if bayonetta 2 never existed
EDIT:
wat.
And this is GAF. Imagine the rest of the internet.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
No reason arguing about the mass appeal thing but bayonetta 1 did have the inherent handicap of a terrible port on one of the consoles it was released on. It had more potential. You are right about the low cost risk but even so, this was late 2012. Nintendo made decisions with the mindset that the console would have taken off sorely by heavy hitters such as Mario 3D, Donkey Kong and Mario Kart. It didn't.
Concerning Scalebound; MS is also good at strutting their stuff. How can one reason with Nintendo's complete lack of promotion of Bayonetta 2 ?
Oppo
Member
This is the argument of an 8-year-old.
This too.
It's not in demand though, is it?
I honestly think many of you need to take a step back, the shrieking has hit fever pitch over this, which is acting as a sort of avatar for the Wii U's misfortunes in general.
I'm glad Wii U-owning fans get a Bayo 2. But the general public wrote it off, clearly, as have the publishers. You can't wave away the sad fact of it by screaming 'port begging' at every passer-by who stops to look at the accident scene. Honestly, the tone is crazy in here. I don't even like Bayonetta (feel free to plumb my post history) but what has happened here is kind of fascinating as it's almost unprecedented. I just assume Nintendo took a risk and paid Platinum enough to make it worth their while either way, which I DO approve of Nintendo doing they should do more, and y'know, develop, like a whole 3rd party thing!
You gotta take a page from the Vita bretheren, accept your fate and enjoy the system, there's simply no need to get all fucking worked up into a lather over how others perceive the system.
(I don't even understand the whole Korra thing)
i wasn't trying to argue. i was trying to educate using facts and science.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I'm not sure you've been following this topic at all to come to the conclusion it is Nintendo fans being crazy that bayonetta 2 is likely not going to sell particularly well.
onken
Member
lol what the hell is going on in here. People are salty because it's coming out on Wii U and nobody wants to buy one to play it. Simple as that.
Regarding the publishing, yes it's a sad fact but for pretty much any publisher they were never going to make money on it after paying for the remainder of the development, distribution and then giving Sega their cut. Nintendo probably bought it fully aware of the loss but in an attempt to claw back some much needed street cred with the core audience.
Regarding the publishing, yes it's a sad fact but for pretty much any publisher they were never going to make money on it after paying for the remainder of the development, distribution and then giving Sega their cut. Nintendo probably bought it fully aware of the loss but in an attempt to claw back some much needed street cred with the core audience.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The reactions to Bayo 2 and Platinum in general make it hard for me to not see it as a bunch of people desperate to have something to be right about. Rather than having a desire to get anything right.
At this point it just seems there is something about Platinum that pisses a lot of people off. Like it is somehow offensive that Platinum keeps getting paid in full to make these elaborate, simultaneously specialized yet AA scope games. That "only" a few hundred thousand people will ever play, as opposed to the 20 million playing Skyrim or COD.
We even have direct statements from Platinum employees to the effect: we love that we can make the stuff we want and that's all that matters. This is the artist effectively telling people "I don't give a shit, bite me" about how they are perceived, ultimate level of mainstream recognition, etc. But you got people viciously arguing over the actual content creator's head about what it all "really means".
We know the limitation of First Print.
It's definitely saying something when it gets announced during a Nintendo Direct at midnight and it's sold out on the next day at game.co.uk, the only shop that actually put it up during the morning of the next day. I'm pretty sure that it will sell better in Europe in the first week than in Japan. And this trend continued on. It's listed at some shop and it's sold out within an hour or a few hours at best. The only exception was amazon.fr, which allowed preorders for 5 days or so and then cancelled most of them 2 weeks later.
Projectjustice
Banned
Yea he doesn't have a clue of what he is talking about.
He's just port begging in every Bayo thread on gaf.
NumberThree
Member
Holy fucking delusional Batman! There are three types of people actively posting in this thread:
1. People who are happy that Platinum is making a sequel to one of their favourite game ever.
2. People who don't want Bayonetta 2 to be made because they don't have the system it's being released on.
3. People who don't want Bayonetta 2 to be made because they'd rather have Platinum make a game they're personally interested in.
And you call the first of these groups selfish. Jesus fucking christ this thread.
Wait so now Mario Kart, Smash and co don't have internet?
Are you from 2005 or something?
Wait so FF7, the game that used so many CG cutscenes that Squaresoft thought they could make actual movies isn't cinematic enough for you?
Do you think there's no one directing the characters in the sequences you're shown in games?
There's even extensive work in performance capture in the AC games, how is SotC cinematic but not AC?
It's pretty much the only thing they advertise in their singleplayer trailers!
You don't know anything about Assassin's Creed, play them they're not that bad.
And this time think about trying the singleplayer with the Templar vs Assassin story in it.
Or maybe really you need to watch more movies.
Where the hell did I say anything like that?
You came here claiming that you coming to WiiU owners that telling them to come get some gameplay games was the same as someone telling the same to ps4 users.
Your analogy is flawed because Nintendo's offering is pretty much ONLY gameplay games with little narrative emphasis.
It's like going to Switzerland and tell people that they can come to you for their chocolate need because theirs suck so much.
The thread sizes are proportional to the lost sales.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
Unfortunately this time you used a Nickelodeon show tie in.
Nope. I didn't call the people who are happy the game exists, selfish. I merely disagreed with them. Selfish was for the 7 people who posted how it was good enough that they and they alone would play the game.
Are you dissing Korra? FailFish
Orniletter
Banned
Oh, I'm sure the Youtube comments for all the great review videos Bayonetta 2 will get will be....something.....I guess.
Wait so now Nickelodeon is fiction only?
Stop the press!
The legend of Korra game is not real!
hey man, i stopped watching nickelodeon at some point around 2002, but avatar the last airbender is one of the best shows of the last decade. real talk.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Absolutely insane how people are still so incredibly bitter about this.