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[MasterCornholio]

You seem insecure about Xbox.

I watched this.

 

[adamsapple]

9 pages over a nothing burger.

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[DeepEnigma]

 

[Ansphn]

Should have been hyped more than just shadow dropped

Also, if MS is going to put these games on GamePass I don't know how they can judge whether it did well enough. Doubt it brought in many subs.

Hopefully MS can see it's good reception as a sign of success rather than sales because it was sent to die…I wonder how they expect these games to sell when they are on GP?

Only Xbox under Phil Spencer would not see the quality in their best game in awhile and instead stealth drop it while putting promotion money into the bad games like Redfall.

 

[CatLady]

Is Grubb = VGChartz?

Depends on what information he's claiming.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

9 pages over a nothing burger.

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because people are dumb just want warrin...this news shouldn't have been about Hi-Fi at all.

 

[j.k.2021]

Anyone with a brain could tell that his comment will stir s hit up as internet loves negative Xbox news and see any speculation as a fact.Too late to clarify now.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Depends on what information he's claiming.

I've heard he used to lift weights whilst taking a dump to try and impress people.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

9 pages over a nothing burger.

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Just wanted the clicks and as usual he knows nothing

 

[nemiroff]

He knew exactly what he was saying. He's gaming drama-thirsty people for clout, and this behavior shouldn't be able to shock anyone. Every GP title is prone to sell less, wow, how can it be..

 

[saintjules]

9 pages over a nothing burger.

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Right? Why do people worry about sales of games? Enjoy what you paid for and that's all.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Depends on what information he's claiming.

Seems to be a theme,

I guess he can go back to lol'ing at vgchartz

 

[ProtoByte]

I'm not seeing what's so hard to believe about this. Xbox can obfuscate with puffed up player numbers and statements like "our key measurements", but it's pretty clear what's happening.

 

[nemiroff]

I'm not seeing what's so hard to believe about this. Xbox can obfuscate with puffed up player numbers and statements like "our key measurements", but it's pretty clear what's happening.

The funny thing is, you're missing not only one but several points here.

 

[adamsapple]

Big G has spoken.

 

[Closed]

Lol

Jeff just got his ass chapped.....

 

[jm89]

Big G has spoken.

Source: vgchartz

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[Thirty7ven]

Lmao Aaron Shitberg had come out and speak.

Xbox looneys on Twitter listen to Grubb confirmed.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Either Grubb wanted clicks or this is some good damage control.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Any day that an "insider" gets caught is a good day in my book.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

Bethesda is not the same anymore after the MS acquisition. You can see it in all their new games and it's very sad. I hope Starfield at least will be a reasonably good game, it's my last hope for Bethesda.

All of the games you've seen from Bethesda since the MS purchase were games already in development before the MS purchase.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Honestly Aaron Greenberg isn't the best person to believe on the MS side of things. The guy regularly associates with and amplifies the most toxic fanboys.

 

[adamsapple]

Hell yeah.

I hope they greenlight a sequel sooner rather than later. Loved the game, personally.

 

[ByWatterson]

I'm not seeing what's so hard to believe about this. Xbox can obfuscate with puffed up player numbers and statements like "our key measurements", but it's pretty clear what's happening.

Yeah I'm a little confused why we take vague corporate denials as gospel. Like it's pretty clear Sony WAS lying about cutting production estimates for VR2 - or at least had low ones to begin with. Everyone here just ate up their denial.

Same thing here. What are key measurements? Are sales part of that? Player count? Review scores? Gamepass sub bump? And you're happy with "what [Tango] delivered?" That you weren't happy with the product wasn't even what Grubb was talking about.

Nothing has been addressed here - and frankly, the fact that they responded at all makes them look nervous and weird.

 

[Gaiff]

I'm not seeing what's so hard to believe about this. Xbox can obfuscate with puffed up player numbers and statements like "our key measurements", but it's pretty clear what's happening.

The big heads are happy with what the game did and it apparently met their expectations. What more should we believe is happening?

 

[Closed]

Honestly Aaron Greenberg isn't the best person to believe on the MS side of things. The guy regularly associates with and amplifies the most toxic fanboys.

Grubb is worse.

 

[Gaiff]

Yeah I'm a little confused why we take vague corporate denials as gospel. Like it's pretty clear Sony WAS lying about cutting production estimates for VR2 - or at least had low ones to begin with. Everyone here just ate up their denial.

Same thing here. What are key measurements? Are sales part of that? Player count? Review scores? Gamepass sub bump? And you're happy with "what [Tango] delivered?" That you weren't happy with the product wasn't even what Grubb was talking about.

Nothing has been addressed here - and frankly, the fact that they responded at all makes them look nervous and weird.

So let me get this straight, some no-name guy on Twitter makes a claim and we believe him but the boss of marketing comes in, clarifies, and we don't believe him. Basically, we run with whatever narrative we want. Correct?

 

[Topher]

Lol

Works for me. Good to see Microsoft speak up about this. This one is definitely going in the L column for Grubb

 

[ByWatterson]

So let me get this straight, some no-name guy on Twitter makes a claim and we believe him but the boss of marketing comes in, clarifies, and we don't believe him. Basically, we run with whatever narrative we want. Correct?

No - based on record Grubb is a good journalist and every single corporate face has reason to dodge and mislead. All of them - Jim Ryan, Phil Spencer, Aaron Greenberg, Herman Hulst - ALL of them.

 

[Topher]

So let me get this straight, some no-name guy on Twitter makes a claim and we believe him but the boss of marketing comes in, clarifies, and we don't believe him. Basically, we run with whatever narrative we want. Correct?

Jeff Grubb isn't some "no-name guy".

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah I'm a little confused why we take vague corporate denials as gospel. Like it's pretty clear Sony WAS lying about cutting production estimates for VR2 - or at least had low ones to begin with. Everyone here just ate up their denial.

Same thing here. What are key measurements? Are sales part of that? Player count? Review scores? Gamepass sub bump? And you're happy with "what [Tango] delivered?" That you weren't happy with the product wasn't even what Grubb was talking about.

Nothing has been addressed here - and frankly, the fact that they responded at all makes them look nervous and weird.

Sony isn't going to publicly lie about that since they're beholden to investors. And Grubb takes the L for this.

 

[ByWatterson]

Sony isn't going to publicly lie about that since they're beholden to investors. And Grubb takes the L for this.

Ehhhhh, but the thrust of the Bloomberg piece (low production estimates) could be true even if they didn't "cut" those estimates, which is all they denied.

And then the device flopped, at least so far.

The gist of the production story was more true than not. No, corporate heads won't flat out lie (I shouldn't have used that word so casually earlier), but it is in their PR interest to mislead, and I can't imagine a more vague statement than the one Greenberg put out.

 

[Gaiff]

No - based on record Grubb is a good journalist and every single corporate face has reason to dodge and mislead. All of them - Jim Ryan, Phil Spencer, Aaron Greenberg, Herman Hulst - ALL of them.

As clearly demonstrated by this. He says some shit then goes full damage control mode. Then the next day, some person with a name schools him.

Jeff Grubb isn't some "no-name guy".

He absolutely is. He's just another journo who routinely spouts bullshit information. The only game journalist who has an almost spotless record is that Schreier dude or however his name is spelled.

 

[DenchDeckard]

This is one of those prize, why gaming podcasts can backfire threads. People need to talk, and if you are Jeff Grubb all you have is talk on rumor's and "insider info" of what you think is a harmless comment can completely backfire.

I do agree with what Jeff said though, that Xbox need to get behind this game and all their studios to steer the ship and make decisions. You got two months MS, June better be amazing!

 

[Topher]

He absolutely is. He's just another journo who routinely spouts bullshit information. The only game journalist who has an almost spotless record is that Schreier dude or however his name is spelled.

That doesn't make him a "no-name guy". We all know who Jeff Grubb is. That's literally the opposite of being a "no-name guy".

 

[Mr Moose]

That doesn't make him a "no-name guy". We all know who Jeff Grubb is. That's literally the opposite of being a "no-name guy".

He's the piss out of his ass guy, everyone knows him.

 

[Gaiff]

That doesn't make him a "no-name guy". We all know who Jeff Grubb is. That's literally the opposite of being a "no-name guy".

By no-name I mean that he's nobody important.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

That seems to be in dispute.

 

[Punished Miku]

This is one of those prize, why gaming podcasts can backfire threads. People need to talk, and if you are Jeff Grubb all you have is talk on rumor's and "insider info" of what you think is a harmless comment can completely backfire.

I do agree with what Jeff said though, that Xbox need to get behind this game and all their studios to steer the ship and make decisions. You got two months MS, June better be amazing!

I was just happy the game got more costumes like a week ago. Bought it instantly.