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Holy Balls. The first two Alien movies are amazing.

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Alien 3 is disappointing just because behind the mediocre film that actually exists you get the impression of a really good one that doesn't

[edit]And, I used to think the director's cut of Aliens was the best until I saw the theatrical cut at a friends and was reminded of how much better the pacing is without all those extra scenes
 
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Wow there are people out there who hadn't seen Alien, Aliens and Terminator 2? Holy shit.

I wish I could erase my brain and watch those again. Aliens and Terminator 2 are possibly my favourite action movies. They were pretty much made at the pinnacle of practical effects and hold up better the most of the CGI out there.

How we went from blockbusters like that to shit like Transformers still blows my mind.

And Terminator and Alien are some of my favourite horror movies.
 
Wow there are people out there who hadn't seen Alien, Aliens and Terminator 2? Holy shit.

I wish I could erase my brain and watch those again. Aliens and Terminator 2 are possibly my favourite action movies. They were pretty much made at the pinnacle of practical effects and hold up better the most of the CGI out there.

How we went from blockbusters like that to shit like Transformers still blows my mind.

And Terminator and Alien are some of my favourite horror movies.

Kids, I hate'm, they have no respect and are mostly ill conceived.
 
The effects in the first have, by far, aged better than in the second. Have you actually watched it recently? On bluray? It's stunning how well almost all of it has aged. The only really bad thing is the full body shot of the Alien, which looks a bit too much like a rubber suit. But that's one brief moment. Otherwise, the effects are all ambitious but well within the feasibility of the time.

A couple of years ago I saw it on a cineplex screen from the bluray and it really could have been a modern, if low-medium budget, sci-fi horror film.

Aliens shows its seams much more often, with some really painfully obvious compositing and still animation. Especially in the ending sequence. I saw it on the same cineplex screen immediately after and it didn't age nearly as well.

I maintain that the only elements in Alien that show its age are those involving computers, and one shot of the alien drifting outside the shuttle, where as you said it looks like a rubber suit. Everything else was crafted to fit within the practical effects of the time. You can look to the landing sequence and see how it's cut to not show a flashy long view of the landing because the effects weren't there, but nothing in that sequence stands out as not working.

The Blu-Ray just reinforces how immaculate the production design is.
 
I say we grease this rat fuck sonuvabitch right now.

You hear me, Branduil? You're dog meat, pal.

It's impossible to view Hicks as a real person. I mean, I get that he's dealing with a badly written character, but his acting makes it worse because it just comes off as Bill Paxton mugging around and not taking anything seriously. Plenty of the other characters in the movie aren't written well, but at least the actors blend into the role.
 
It's impossible to view Hicks as a real person. I mean, I get that he's dealing with a badly written character, but his acting makes it worse because it just comes off as Bill Paxton mugging around and not taking anything seriously. Plenty of the other characters in the movie aren't written well, but at least the actors blend into the role.

"Hudson sir. He's Hicks"

What?

And what exactly is your idea of a "well written" character?
 
Alien 3 is like the spoiled kid who shits on and destroys the years of hard work and dedication of his parents just to show how cool and edgy and extreme he is.

Alien 4 is the same kid 5 years later who thinks that a couple of years in art school have redeemed him.

Get out of my head.
 
Just watched Alien 4.... It wasn't the worst thing I guess... =/

I really don't enjoy winona ryder. she sounded like a teenage boy. Actually none of the characters were redeeming. They even screwed up sigourney... I'm hoping Prometheus washes all these bad taste out of my mouth. 3 & 4 were both horrible. GAF is always right.
 
Just finished watching Alien after buying the Blu Ray Alien Anthology on Amazon. Prometheus got me interested in watching these. Fantastic film.
The Ash reveal was mindblowing to me.

Aliens tomorrow!
 
Just finished watching Alien after buying the Blu Ray Alien Anthology on Amazon. Prometheus got me interested in watching these. Fantastic film.
The Ash reveal was mindblowing to me.

Aliens tomorrow!

What's you said in the spoiler caught me off guard when I first watched it too! Probably one of my favorite reveals in a classic movie that wasn't ruined for me from years of pop culture references.
 
What's you said in the spoiler caught me off guard when I first watched it too! Probably one of my favorite reveals in a classic movie that wasn't ruined for me from years of pop culture references.

It was on occasion challenging, but I managed to keep my daughter in the dark to the plot shifts in Alien before she watched it. The chestburster and the aforementioned spoiler really got her good. I don't remember my own reaction, as I saw the film quite young, but it was fun to see her jolted up in her seat, vicariously.
 
It was on occasion challenging, but I managed to keep my daughter in the dark to the plot shifts in Alien before she watched it. The chestburster and the aforementioned spoiler really got her good. I don't remember my own reaction, as I saw the film quite young, but it was fun to see her jolted up in her seat, vicariously.

Yeah, both of those got my flatmate real good. We'll hopefully be watching Aliens tonight.
 
I wish Plinkett would do an Alien: Resurrection special, seeing as how it's really really bad and basically doomed the franchise to being stuck in AvP.
 
alien resurrection, while not really a good movie in any way. especially considering how amazing alien/aliens are
but its worth watching for 2 things
1. the fucking creepy white baby alien thinking getting sucked out of that hole. god dammit that part is horrifying
2. rob perlman

cuz ron perlman is the fucking man
 
So what the fuck is that thing? Do we know yet, you see it in Alien but they dont elaborate on it, is it some form of the queen?

It's been dubbed the "Space Jockey."

We don't know what it is, but we assume it is some kind of pilot.

The upcoming movie Prometheus seems to have some of the history of what that thing is.
 
So what the fuck is that thing? Do we know yet, you see it in Alien but they dont elaborate on it, is it some form of the queen?

The pilot of the ship. He had an alien incubate inside him, the first chest-burst we ever see. Imagine how huge the alien that came out of his chest must have been.
 
I love Alien and Aliens. They are two really, really great movies. Alien 3 flat out sucks. Alien Resurrection is okay, but not worthy of being related to the first two movies.
 
All of this talk about Alien being a great horror movie has me slightly baffled. I watched it for the first time not too long ago and I don't remember being scared once. Actually I was laughing at many points, like when the tiny alien came out of the chest and moved across the table. Hilarious!
 
It was probably the queen from Aliens, no?

Don't see why it would be. I always assumed that just hatched from one of the colonists, from one of the eggs in the derelict. I'd expect the queen to be bigger as a rule (like ant and bee queens), and it looked roughly like any other human-derived xenomorph otherwise.


All of this talk about Alien being a great horror movie has me slightly baffled. I watched it for the first time not too long ago and I don't remember being scared once. Actually I was laughing at many points, like when the tiny alien came out of the chest and moved across the table. Hilarious!

Were the lights on? Was it late? Was there anyone else in the room?

Every horror movie is silly in the wrong atmosphere. Also, some people just don't dig the suspense-driven kind of horror. But for the kind of film it is, it's a masterpiece.
 
Don't see why it would be. I always assumed that just hatched from one of the colonists, from one of the eggs in the derelict. I'd expect the queen to be bigger as a rule (like ant and bee queens), and it looked roughly like any other human-derived xenomorph otherwise.




Were the lights on? Was it late? Was there anyone else in the room?

Every horror movie is silly in the wrong atmosphere. Also, some people just don't dig the suspense-driven kind of horror. But for the kind of film it is, it's a masterpiece.

The alien queen was bigger. She would have been double the size of Ripley if she stood up fully (which she almost does at times but not fully). Most Alien drones/warriors were only about 7 feet tall upright.
 
The alien queen was bigger. She would have been double the size of Ripley if she stood up fully (which she almost does at times but not fully). Most Alien drones/warriors were only about 7 feet tall upright.

Right but his point is that she's the queen. Large size comes with the job description.
 
Right but his point is that she's the queen. Large size comes with the job description.

No his point was that he thought the queen was too small to have "hatched" as it were from the space jockey.

My rebuttal was that she was just the right size to have sprang from it.
 
What? Maybe you need to read his post again, heh.

I did.

Maharg was responding to Senty's reply about the alien that burst from the space jockey (which we know did happen since we see a large hole in what was most likely it's chest cavity). Maharg assumed that because of the gigantic size of the space jockey that the alien that burst from it would have been bigger than the queen we see in Aliens. I replied that the queen is big enough to have sprung from the space jockey.
 
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