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gofreak said:
NB: I'm just repeating what GoFreak said ^.^
Basically the mini games and other goods like free T-shirts are incitements for the consumers to come to the space (ex. a friend tells about a free bowling game in a space and everyone goes there) and while the consumer is there there'll be shown trailers, concept art, character models, 3D pictures (potentially the space is one big doctored shot).
But there's also more interesting ways of doing adverts like EA having a FIFA/NBA/NFL/Boxing tournament broadcasted to big screens in the public spaces which would reach a much bigger audience where as the tournaments currently only are for the already converted.
No one would see it as adverts for the games and more interesting, EA can like in real life have adverts at the arenas plus commercial breaks.
Sure beats the silly banner and background adds currently experienced at gaming sites.
Pristine_Condition said:
If people can't respond intelligently, I'd label them the same. Honestly.
RipDizz had a good point, and there were great responses that completely addressed his concerns. Asking for a rolleyes emoticon is just bullshit that ruins the discussion.
Anyways, back to the topic at hand. This is all great news. I knew that all of this were possibilities, but I feared that it wouldn't be until 2010 until Home started reaching its potential.
Looks like with Sony's devs leading the way, it can be an example to 3rd parties.
VonGak! said:
You bringing up everyone going there and discussing the game and while there being shown the trailers, art, etc. made me think of another idea.
What if they made it so that while you were in that area you could use the internet (maybe through your virtual PSP) and post to any site? So you would see a thread on GAF with everyone discussing new screenshots and trailers as normal, but some of the people in the thread are posting from Home and viewing the trailers/screenshots together in there while still following the thread and posting into GAF.
During the time people were doing this, the Home space and the GAF thread would essentially be integrated with people hopping from looking at the thread on their PC to meeting up with the others in the Home space while still keeping track of the GAF thread within Home.
Greg said:
That was RipDizz's concern as well, that Sony should enforce some things.
But as mentioned in some of the replies to his post, it's an invaluable marketing tool, and pubs/devs pay attention to sales and then in turn see what the game does right and wrong. If a publisher took the time to visit one of Sony's homespaces and saw the excitement it was generating among gamers, first hand, it shouldn't take a lot to get them on board.
I've already went over why Home is such a valuable marketing tool for games in previous threads, but I may as well list them here as well...
-Hitting your target audience head on: Every single visitor to a game's virtualspace is a PS3 owner who plays games. From that perspective, it is the most cost efficient form of advertising.
-Content is free, immediate, and interactive. I consider this combination as greater as the sum of its parts. We can see that game demos are free and interactive...but not immediate. It takes a bit of a time investment, as well as HDD space investment. Especially on the PS3 when you not only have to dload, but also install demos, in the future gamers may be picky when there are so many demos to choose from (it's like that already on the 360, it has tons of demoes, and that situation is exasperated by the small 20Gb HDD). Whereas on Home, it doesn't (AFAIK, never tried it myself...hint hint Sony) take as long to load up a virtualspace for a game. The content is right there for you, without you having to wait for a long download, to install, and to take up your HDD space.
-Viewing the advertising with others can be an invaluable marketing tool. If gamers can view this sort of content with other gamers (whether random or friends), it's going to help the game because they'll be talking about it while visiting the virtualspace. This sort of buzz can't be recreated via other mediums. People don't look at videogames magazine ads together and then talk about how awesome they are. With groups of interested gamers visiting your space and at the same time interacting with each other, it could help jumpstart a grassroots sort of advertising that exists on Home itself.
-Costs should be minimal. The costs for a television spot or magazine spot would look trivial compared to this. Why do I say that? Mainly because most assets used for Home space creation will come from games themselves. Meaning all the 3D models used for the virtualspace would most likely game from the game (of course, there could be required some minor tweaking) and thus the costs for making a space would be next to nothing. If there's music playing in the space, it's most likely from the game itself.
-Advertising that can change. Ideally, there would be a space created and ready prior to a game's launch to generate buzz. This could mean that initially, you would have lots of teaser materials there that wouldn't give too many things away (and because the game isn't close to being done), and as time goes by, you can update it with more info...meaning that you can generate repeat visitors. It would be too costly to do this with print or TV. Movies do it sparingly, but increasingly as they realize that it can generate hype (look at the Dark Knight Teaser from the summer with just the logo flashing, or the Star Trek teaser with a shot of the Enterprise being constructed). With a virtual space you can do this and the costs are nothing compared to TV and print.
Anyways, I think it's in Sony's best interests to have a guy hired for Home development, and s/he would be approaching 3rd parties with this sort of information and encouragement to get them all on board. If they aren't going to make this mandatory, they should at least be aggressive in informing 3rd parties the benefits of this. Sony perhaps does have a position like this already.
SolidSnakex
Member
FightyF said:
I think it's going to be up to Sony to show that this works. Which is why it makes sense that they're encouraging their first party developers to implement Home, according to a quote gofreak posted. This is something that's obviously go to take a decent amount of time if you're going to do something elaborate and developers aren't going to want to do it if there's no real payoff. So if Sony can show them that it's worth it then they won't need to to enforce anything, they developers will just do it on their own.
NextGenitals
Banned
Just wanted to add something with regards to the music/movie front and I'm sure we're all aware of it but it's something that should be a real asset to Home, and that is the ability of Sony as a music/movie entity to provide new and exclusive media to Home and using it as a digital distribution method. I'm not sure how many "hot" artists Sony/BMG currently has deals with but Sony Pictures owns the rights to many great movies. The process of acquiring and then offering content from these mediums that is owned by Sony must be much quicker and easier, and while Sony will obviously be offering content from other providers of both mediums, the offering from Sony-owned content should be steady.
Admittedly, however, I am no expert on inter-company licensing and rights management, but I'm assuming it's much easier for SCEA to grab a Sony Pictures exclusive trailer and stick it up on Home (not to mention cheaper) than getting it from another studio. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Admittedly, however, I am no expert on inter-company licensing and rights management, but I'm assuming it's much easier for SCEA to grab a Sony Pictures exclusive trailer and stick it up on Home (not to mention cheaper) than getting it from another studio. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Doesn't HOME already have movie trailers? They've shown it before in HOME demonstrations.VonGak! said:
For music it would be cool to walk up to a stand , similar to the arcade machines, that has headphones on them and listen to music that way.
Another cool feature they could have is listening to music whilst in HOME. It could be activated through the virtual PSP and your avatar could pop in some earphones, so people can see you're listening to music. It kinda defeats the whole socialising thing going on in HOME but still it's a nice feature for people who want to just stroll around HOME or play in the arcades.
heh Sony should hire me
krypt0nian
Banned
OK I totally need to see this Japan Home Space? What JPN Gaffers have Home access right now?
You need to get invited in to see it.
Teepo and Wollan, the micless wonder were in my apartment having a sexy party just now.
You need to get invited in to see it.
Teepo and Wollan, the micless wonder were in my apartment having a sexy party just now.
Pristine_Condition
Member
FightyF said:
Yeah, but his claim was that he was just "responding in kind" to how he was treated by other posters. He clearly wasn't.
Every single response but the single, almost throw-away ":rolleyes" comment directly addressed his "concerns" and none of them were disrespectful in any way to him. Even the ":rolleyes" comment was pretty tame, and wasn't insulting to the level of name-calling or personal insults or anything.
So him posting this:
TheRipDizz said:
...was clearly out-of-bounds, and clearly not "responding in kind" in any way.
Someone suggesting a mere rolling of the eyes at someone's comments and someone getting enraged and actually throwing multiple personal insults around are two completely different things, by any reasonable measure.
I'm surprised that you actually claim to not be able to see the difference, since you seem to post some intelligent stuff from time to time, including you long post in this thread. I'm not surprised that you are defending him though. It seems to be your gimmick on GAF for some reason I fail to fathom, so I guess you have to stick to it. We'll just have to agree to disagree, and let the written record speak for itself.
PistolGrip
sex vacation in Guam
GAF orgie.... oh wait lets envite a girl gamer forum to join in the fun.
krypt0nian
Banned
Ploid 3.0 said:NDA dude
NDA doesn't preclude saying you have Home.
Dead Prince
Banned
OH Snap! i'm in there :lol
NextGenitals
Banned
Dibbz said:For music it would be cool to walk up to a stand , similar to the arcade machines, that has headphones on them and listen to music that way.
A virtual music store where you can preview music and buy to download straight to ps3 would be useful. Just download an mp3 that you can transfer to pc or psp.
Zombie James
Banned
iceatcs said:Sony, Do it!
Sweet, i'm there
Insane Metal
Gold Member
WOW
It´s missing my name There.
INSANE METAL HAS TO BE THERE!!!
LOLZ
It´s missing my name There.
INSANE METAL HAS TO BE THERE!!!
LOLZ
AceBandage
Banned
chubigans said:Oh boy I have Kittonwy next to me RAWR.
I will let him pet me gently.
That always creeped me out in Futurama...
