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[Liopleurodon]

Maybe, 6 months, or 1 year after on PC.

EDIT: STOP LAUGHING!!!

 

[kasrkinsquad]

The most recent Xbox is a handheld PC and the next one is a living room PC. Not happening.

 

[Stuart360]

lol no chance with PC. Its possible with Playstation but doubtful. The most it wou;ld be is timed exclsuive like you said, 6 months to 1 year.

 

[SantaC]

And what do you gain from that?

 

[rodrigolfp]

Yeah, back to only games infested with limitations of console for the same price or more. /s

 

[IAmRei]

it will be hard to cover the cost and need to reach toward ecratin financial milestone with exclusive only these days

 

[SupremeJ]

Maybe, 6 months, or 1 year after on PC.

Still don't get it? XBOX now = PC games. The Series generation is the last traditional console, the next hardware will run PC games from day one, even on the Helix console.

The exclusivity will be available on the PC XBOX store. At most there will be a special Helix optimization on the PC version of the games that will give them console-like capabilities in terms of UI and joypads.

 

[diffusionx]

I don't even see why they would release an Xbox if they don't.

Just go third party.

 

[Stuart360]

I don't even see why they would release an Xbox if they don't.

Just go third party.

Problem is they have millions of long time fans with accounts full of games, mtx, stuff on other services etc.

there probably always will be some kind of 'Xbox', until they decide to go streaming only and end up a online service.

 

[Kacho]

Maybe, 6 months, or 1 year after on PC.

 

[Witchilich]

lol Microsoft does not care about Xbox. They will never let it happen.

 

[Botan32]

They might do it, but that would be a mistake—no gamer, except for Xbox fanboys, would want a $1,000 console.

 

[JayK47]

Console wars are back. Back to the fanboy trenched with you. You need to pick a side.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Actual exclusives? Sounds great but I don't see it happening.

 

[saintjules]

What's with the low effort thread post?

 

[Radical_3d]

Maybe, 6 months, or 1 year after on PC.

Those are not exclusives. Are temporal deals. Super Mario Odyssey is exclusive. And to have exclusives you need a proprietary environment. We'll see if Helix has that much…

 

[SSfox]

Wah so exclusives are good thing now?

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Pc is part of Xbox ecosystem. Imagine releasing triple AAA games on a platform that stagnated at 30M consoles sold (and will sell even less next gen with how prices are going).

 

[ResilientBanana]

Nothing would nail that coffin shut more than selling specifically to only 30 million console owners.

 

[Sanepar]

If this includes PC ok

 

[pudel]

And what do you gain from that?

a loss in sales.

 

[reinking]

…and then what?

XBOX no longer means console. They made their bed and now they have to live with it. On the plus side, you might get XBOX exclusives but that means PC too. Exclusive means two different things now. Sony/Nintendo = console only, no PC. XBOX = console and PC. At least that is what it looks like to me.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Agree!

Exclusives are important for consoles.

The xbox audience just voted them the number 1 wish for xbox.

PC has exclusives too.

 

[jm89]

Xbox will need to find a way to deal with steam, kumbayah mah lord isn't going to work.

Moving customers to pc with a much more popular storefront is an easy way to lose them. If they had an equally big storefront then maybe it would work, but that ship has sailed.

 

[Fess]

…and then what?

XBOX no longer means console. They made their bed and now they have to live with it. On the plus side, you might get XBOX exclusives but that means PC too. Exclusive means two different things now. Sony/Nintendo = console only, no PC. XBOX = console and PC. At least that is what it looks like to me.

PC+XBOX is fine. As an old customer I want nothing else, it's great to have the option to play at higher fidelity and framerates. Playing Forza Horizon 6 at 140fps with extreme RT day -4 has been awesome!

Sony pulling out of PC is pissing me off tbh, because I don't want to buy a new weak plastic box just to play 5+ games over a generation, when I play everything else elsewhere.
Right now I'm at the point where I'll just ignore their bubble all together. They lost me. But I'm still going to walk away and lose something.

The problem for Microsoft is that "XBOX" isn't actually needed. Anywhere. You don't lose anything by walking away. You can play their games on Steam if you like the PC fidelity and performance. You can play their games on PS5 if you enjoy consoles.

The only "exclusive" they have right now is Gamepass. You need Xbox App to use Gamepass on PC. You need XBOX consoles to use Gamepass on console.

They need to pull more strings than that to not become irrelevant. Especially since Gamepass numbers will drop once they merge XBOX with PC and you no longer need Gamepass to play online and might choose to play everything through Steam instead of Xbox App.

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

Maybe, 6 months, or 1 year after on PC.

Current XBOX sales in its strongest region (NA = Canada, United States, and Mexico) are abysmal — so much so that the Nex Playground console outsold XBOX during Black Friday week.

I'm not joking when I say this, but I think the only way XBOX goes back to 100% exclusivity is if Microsoft executives start doing advanced forms of crack.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

1. XBOX isn't Nintendo or PlayStation.

2. It would not do that with PC.

Thus, nope.

 

[Sethbacca]

it will be hard to cover the cost and need to reach toward ecratin financial milestone with exclusive only these days

Especially with a player base allergic to buying games.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Pc is part of Xbox ecosystem. Imagine releasing triple AAA games on a platform that stagnated at 30M consoles sold (and will sell even less next gen with how prices are going).

It's around 37 million now

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

It's around 37 million now

37M? Where? I don't remember seeing those numbers. I thought 30M was where it's at?

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Switching back to exclusives isn't going to magically undo the past 13 years of harm to the brand.
Confidence in the ecosystem is broken and studios needs diverse distribution channels to survive in the short-term.

 

[Plague Doctor]

I don't know what you are talking about OP. I have never heard of that hardware.

Do you mean XBOX?

If that's the system you meant, then no. No it has no chance in hell of suriving and going exclusive. It would need to spend a generation losing a lot of money to establish itself again as a place for exclusives. It's already losing money and not establishing itself.

 

[Represent.]

Wah so exclusives are good thing now?

Yes...

Anyone saying its a "bad thing" to have your own suite of games that are tailor made to take full advantage of your hardware and simultaneously give it an identity, is quite frankly retarded lol.

ALSO.. Exclusives are good for COMPETITION.

A competitive industry will only benefit gamers, way more so than HURR DURR i cAn pLAy mY gAmEZ aNyWhErRe - Who gives a shit.

 

[IAmRei]

Especially with a player base allergic to buying games.

yeah, it's kinda unfortunately nowadays, and gamepass makes everything worse, although from the customer side it's good, but might not be so for devs

 

[DenchDeckard]

100% they should go Xbox and PC only for day one. Then throw PS and Switch 2 some odd games that make sense. I think all companies should be striving to just create really amazing games and if exclusivity helps build an ecosystem that supports that go for it.

MS doesnt NEED Sony or Nintendo Money. Forza Horizon 6 has just proven that, its just how much money do they want. If they make products with the appeal of FH6 they are laughing, and that goes for Nintendo and Sony alike.

 

[AJUMP23]

They would need a steady pipeline of A tier and B tier games to come out regularly. Probably need 3 to 4 tent poles a year. That is difficult. No one can seem to do it.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Yes...

Anyone saying its a "bad thing" to have your own suite of games that are tailor made to take full advantage of your hardware and simultaneously give it an identity, is quite frankly retarded lol.

ALSO.. Exclusives are good for COMPETITION.

A competitive industry will only benefit gamers, way more so than HURR DURR i cAn pLAy mY gAmEZ aNyWhErRe - Who gives a shit.

So every game should be exclusive to "RTX 5090s", right?? Because what benefits me as a consumer would get from games taking full advantage of weaker hardware??

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

All Xbox games are exclusive to Game Pass.*

*except Call of Duty

 

[pudel]

ALSO.. Exclusives are good for COMPETITION.

No, exclusives are the opposite of competition. You just artificially cut off any competition and forcing devs to release on yr very own platform when they could easily release everywhere else. There is a reason many big studios dont want to be under anyones umbrella anymore...cause they dont have to do this exclusivity shit and can sell where they want.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

They would need a steady pipeline of A tier and B tier games to come out regularly. Probably need 3 to 4 tent poles a year. That is difficult. No one can seem to do it.

Only AAA tier at 2-3 production time, 30% cheaper to make and 30% better than the competition

 

[Manic27]

The entire Project Helix is centered around Windows and the unification of Xbox and PC development environment/tools.. lmao.

I think console Xbox fans need to just embrace the unique strengths that fact brings to their platform.

 

[Sanepar]

Maybe, 6 months, or 1 year after on PC.

It is easy they leave consoles behind than PC. Look to fh6 numbers on Steam. Get back on reality

 

[demigod]

37M? Where? I don't remember seeing those numbers. I thought 30M was where it's at?

In his dreams, am i doing this right Ass of Can Whooping ?

 

[splattered]

Sony claws back exclusives and certain people are celebrating... MS explores clawing back exclusives and people seem to be saying no they cant do that? Make it make sense.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

In his dreams, am i doing this right Ass of Can Whooping ?

 

[StueyDuck]

You dont spend all that money on actiblizz just get rid of 50% or more of the player base

 

[cireza]

a loss in sales.

That's a short term vision.

Not paying a ton of royalties to your competitor and growing your own player base is the long term vision.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Sony claws back exclusives and certain people are celebrating... MS explores clawing back exclusives and people seem to be saying no they cant do that? Make it make sense.

They couldn't do it, that's what they went multiplatform in the first place.

 

[Sethbacca]

MS doesnt NEED Sony or Nintendo Money. Forza Horizon 6 has just proven that, its just how much money do they want. If they make products with the appeal of FH6 they are laughing, and that goes for Nintendo and Sony alike.

The problem they're gonna have now is that they've already shown the shareholders what they'd be leaving on the table going back. Gonna be tough to re-tube that toothpaste.

 

[Fess]

MS doesnt NEED Sony or Nintendo Money. Forza Horizon 6 has just proven that, its just how much money do they want. If they make products with the appeal of FH6 they are laughing, and that goes for Nintendo and Sony alike.

FH6 would've been a system seller.

But MS want all the money. And that's their biggest problem. Grasp all, loose all.

They need to take the short term economical loss to build up to survive long term. Create a solid reason why people actually need the XBOX.
There is no other way. The biggest market, the mainstream, ain't going to buy a PS6 plus an XBOX Helix if they can play all XBOX games on PS6. They'll buy a PS6 and go "What's an XBOX?"