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Horizon Forbidden West has a stunningly low amount of agency
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Swift_Star
Banned
Since you were unable to support your point, we can conclude that there’s no game that does exactly what Horizon does, MH has combat is vastly different. Lol, you got owned.
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Vaelka
Member
Western character designs in a nutshell nowadays lol.
Chukhopops
Member
I just listed all your points except one but ok I won’t argue with such a lost cause any further. It’s vastly different only in the sense that it is more varied, more accurate and straight out better.
I miss the old SDF members sometimes…
Majima Everywhere System
Member
My wife liked watching the first Horizon. Every time we sit down with this game it's an hour of dialogue wheels OR find a femur. She's not that into it.
Man, people's tastes can change quickly (or more likely, the game is garbo this time).
It's like they knew what they needed to make a game, started immediately, and never stepped back and tried it.
Man, people's tastes can change quickly (or more likely, the game is garbo this time).
It's like they knew what they needed to make a game, started immediately, and never stepped back and tried it.
Topher
Gold Member
Horizon on rails??? I can't believe someone actually said that
Horizon Forbidden Dawn is the best "on rails" "tech demo" I've ever played.
seriously....the shit people say
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Topher
Gold Member
The thought "this guy hasn't played the game at all" has popped into my brain quite a few times reading some of the comments.
Roxkis_ii
Member
You must have not been on the forums during the last of us 2 days lol. forgive the off topic post.
I agree. People might hate Aloy but they really really hated Abby.
Tiamat2san
Member
Thé game was boring.
Combat sucks.
Thé camera sucks.
The story sucks.
Climbing sucks big time.
Yeah it looks good but that’s it, it’s the only good thing about the game.
I don’t understand the reviews praising it.
Combat sucks.
Thé camera sucks.
The story sucks.
Climbing sucks big time.
Yeah it looks good but that’s it, it’s the only good thing about the game.
I don’t understand the reviews praising it.
Hobbygaming
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This. We need a drop your PSN ID requirement for this thread lol
Recently just got to the west. So far I find the game extremely boring, can’t seem to play longer than 30 minutes at a time. I bought the game and really enjoyed the first one so I’m trying to push through.
Pros:
-killing the Dino’s is fun. Love watching the parts fly off them.
-In certain situations it looks visually stunning. Fast moving big Dino battles.
Cons:
-The majority of the time in performance mode I find it looks bad. Extremely distracting hair from alloy, aliasing is atrocious, checkboard rendering makes all the vegetation look like it’s dancing, tons of pop in.
-for a open world do anything type game, the lack of good climbing is really frustrating.
-story so far seems very boring, I find myself skipping cut scenes that aren’t essential.
-maybe this is a me problem but I’ve found my self stuck in parts your not supposed to be stuck at. (Ie not knowing where to climb, or use your hook shot device.
-can’t stand listening to her talk, feels like she never shuts up.
-bending down to collect a million different items feels old and isn’t fun.
Obviously this is just my opinion. I’ve read so many good reviews and generally agree more or less with the bigger consent. But this game in particular could not be further from the majority of reviews in my eyes.
Pros:
-killing the Dino’s is fun. Love watching the parts fly off them.
-In certain situations it looks visually stunning. Fast moving big Dino battles.
Cons:
-The majority of the time in performance mode I find it looks bad. Extremely distracting hair from alloy, aliasing is atrocious, checkboard rendering makes all the vegetation look like it’s dancing, tons of pop in.
-for a open world do anything type game, the lack of good climbing is really frustrating.
-story so far seems very boring, I find myself skipping cut scenes that aren’t essential.
-maybe this is a me problem but I’ve found my self stuck in parts your not supposed to be stuck at. (Ie not knowing where to climb, or use your hook shot device.
-can’t stand listening to her talk, feels like she never shuts up.
-bending down to collect a million different items feels old and isn’t fun.
Obviously this is just my opinion. I’ve read so many good reviews and generally agree more or less with the bigger consent. But this game in particular could not be further from the majority of reviews in my eyes.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
How are sales of the game? Any indications of how its performing relative to the first game?
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
this game is so lacking in choices that i cant even pick out which metals alloy is made out of
The artful mincer
Member
About the same I think. I think it's first npd month was slightly bigger than zero dawns
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Same story different game. Same people defending as if it’s a personal attachment if there is any dissent whatsoever.
Game has flaws, it’s not perfect. Personally, game didn’t hold me. Found the game very long and monotonous with a story that didn’t grab me. Amazing graphics though. Glad lots are liking it.
Different folks and all that.
Game has flaws, it’s not perfect. Personally, game didn’t hold me. Found the game very long and monotonous with a story that didn’t grab me. Amazing graphics though. Glad lots are liking it.
Different folks and all that.
Topher
Gold Member
Ok, but you've got some attacking the game as if it personally offends them even though they are not even playing the game. So works both ways.
Basically.....
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Topher
Gold Member
I just finished the game. Loved it. I'll gather my thoughts in full later after I digest the last 100+ hours of gameplay. But going to say one thing...
I do not get the hate for the ending. That was an awesome conclusion. Led perfectly into the next game while closing the book on the story in Forbidden West.
So what is the problem again?
I do not get the hate for the ending. That was an awesome conclusion. Led perfectly into the next game while closing the book on the story in Forbidden West.
So what is the problem again?
The artful mincer
Member
How's is it compared to zero dawn? Sill trying to get a ps5 so yet to try it
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I just walked into my local cex in the UK and I was shocked to see how many copies of horizon and gran turismo they have. Like loads, and this is a town In the North of England.
I'm thinking I'm gonna pick up gran turismo though as I've got a load of trade in. Just can't bring myself to get Horizon as I know its just not for me but I have that part of me that wants to try every exclusive game.
Think I'll go GT. question is can I enjoy GT with a controller and it's not too much grind or feeling of me missing out due to MTX?
I'm thinking I'm gonna pick up gran turismo though as I've got a load of trade in. Just can't bring myself to get Horizon as I know its just not for me but I have that part of me that wants to try every exclusive game.
Think I'll go GT. question is can I enjoy GT with a controller and it's not too much grind or feeling of me missing out due to MTX?
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HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Enjoy the cinematic experience, OP. You're doing it wrong.
GymWolf
Member
Jesus dude you didn't even played the damn thing?? Stay away from any topic about the game if you don't wanna catch some spoiler.How's is it compared to zero dawn? Sill trying to get a ps5 so yet to try it
Swift_Star
Banned
The ending… was rushed with a kind of nonsense big review and the main anti-hero breaking character. I accepted it but it wasn’t very good.
After 12 hours I mirror these points almost exactly
The artful mincer
Member
Lol its all good I think I already spoiled most of the new machines which is what I care about the most!
Still got know idea about the main plot though.
GymWolf
Member
Is that avatar new or imposed by some mod?
Banjo64
cumsessed
Ocarina of Time is a much, much better game than Tunic. Checkmate atheists.
Nice to hear someone else with the same opinions. I feel like I’m on crazy island with everyone praising the visuals, saying it’s one of the best looking games of all time. Just doesn’t make sense to me.
The Cockatrice
Member
"doesnt make sense to me when ppl say it has the best visuals"
Are these people fucking blind? Are they playing the game on a 480p tv? Are they trolling? I need some receipts on the game looking bad because I have receiptts on the opposite. Anyone saying otherwise is entirely full of shit.
Credit for the last 3 screenshots
Con-Z-epT
Are these people fucking blind? Are they playing the game on a 480p tv? Are they trolling? I need some receipts on the game looking bad because I have receiptts on the opposite. Anyone saying otherwise is entirely full of shit.
Credit for the last 3 screenshots
Con-Z-epT
GymWolf
Member
I think that you need to visit the photomode topic here or on reeee if you really think otherwise...
The artful mincer
Member
Lol no that's a comment said to me by another user
I found it rather funny.To be fair I owe you avatar bet because there's no underwater combat in Forbidden West!
GymWolf
Member
Just put some lesbian rivet deviant art and we're good.Lol no that's a comment said to me by another user
To be fair I owe you avatar bet because there's no underwater combat in Forbidden West!
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Photomode pushes everything to the highest fidelity, not what I’m actually getting in game on performance mode.
My main complaints are in motion, read my actual post…. Distracting hair physics, constant pop in, vegetation is always shimmering due to checkerboard rendering(I think).
GymWolf
Member
Even with all of that there is no surprise in people calling this game one of the best graphically, you are the outsider here not the other way around.
(Not sure if outsider is the right word but you get the gist).
Being surprised that majority of people think that about the game is a big exageration that almost enter bullshit territory dude, the game is fucking gorgeous even with some shimmering and hairs moving like medusa or some minor pop in.
Also many people played on resolution mode where shimmering is non-existent.
Ever since I got the XBX and PS5 I can’t seem to go back to 30FPS. I’ve tried multiple times with this specific game. I’m glad people find it so enjoyable and love the way it looks.
As I said earlier I just find the points I made earlier to be extremely distracting and takes away from the immersion. I would have rather had lower density in vegetation if that meant we would have gotten far better AA.
I currently can’t seem to put down returnal ascension and that game to me looks substantially better. And if I remember correctly it’s running at 1080p internally upscale to 4K.
Your right about fidelity mode though. It seems this game was meant to be played that way and performance mode was a afterthought.
GymWolf
Member
Oh i played the whole thing in performance mode except during slow explorations or when i expected a big cutscene in the next minutes so i get what you say, but stuff like models for humans and dinobot or the water or textures from close up remain gorgeous even on perf mode.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I agree OP and the 1st felt the same way 
Mossybrew
Member
Yup, I played in fidelity, game is gorgeous. Performance just wasn't worth the tradeoff.
Completely agree with all that. I’m thinking that the power of the actual PlayStation might be the problem. If it looked like fidelity mode but ran in 60 most of my visual distractions would be alleviated.
However, can we both agree alloys hair is ridiculously distracting in cut scenes?!
GymWolf
Member
After a while i stopped noticing it tbh.
GymWolf
Member
If this is your biggest problem, i'm kinda curios to know the small one
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ResilientBanana
Member
Grand Thef Auto isn't a brawler game either, but it's a hit for a reason.
sendit
Member
A smoother gameplay experience wasn’t worth the trade off? I feel like some people should be watching movies over playing video games….
dorkimoe
Member
I enjoyed it. Didn’t have many other complaints really. It is what it is. I knew what to expect when getting it.If this is your biggest problem, i'm kinda curios to know the small one
Mossybrew
Member
Nope, I'm perfectly fine with 30fps gaming.