Hitokiri03
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DE: Mankind Divided had microtransactions and nobody cared too.
In this case nobody cared about the game all together.
DE: Mankind Divided had microtransactions and nobody cared too.
OP you can't pick a Sony game to make a thread like this.
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Thats not freaking true. There were threads on here and how deceiving that was that they tried to hide those from reviewers.DE: Mankind Divided had microtransactions and nobody cared too.
Yeah, they're mostly there to keep you stocked on supplies.
Now that would have been an interesting thread.....He can, he just picked the wrong one which makes him look like an idiot.
Pick any of the recent Naughty Dog games. Their MT's are some of the worst in the industry for online, making it almost pay2win yet they will always get away with it.
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You are a smart guy.
For good reason. If I heard about something resembling "loot boxes" were in Horizon before release, I would have assumed that at some point real world currency could be spent on them. That did not come to pass, and that's why this example is so bad.The fuck is going on with this loot boxes thing? People is starting to be hysterical and paranoid.
The fight as it stands is against all kinds of micro-transactions. "This preticular form or that preticular game is not egregious" arguments are what has let this boiling point. That just allowed them to get more invasive. Hence pre-emptive fight against all games that even remotely hint at this is warranted.For those who are asking I have chosen Horizon because it offered same mechanic as AC Origins. In both games you use in-game currency to buy some kind of box/chest that gives you random loot. In both games you can find that loot just roaming around the world. And so far in both games you can only buy it with in-game currency.
And as i said before i am not ignoring previous AC games and their MT implementation. And as i pointed out you could never buy main in-game currency in any AC game.
Will there be MT in Origins? Probably. Did MT in any AC game before impacted core gameplay or gated something? No they didn't.
He can, he just picked the wrong one which makes him look like an idiot.
Pick any of the recent Naughty Dog games. Their MT's are some of the worst in the industry for online, making it almost pay2win yet they will always get away with it.
How many times do people need to say it, KEEP IT COSMETICS ONLY. This is exactly why I can't give a flying tool about Call of Duty anymore when they started to put guns in drops.
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For those who are asking I have chosen Horizon because it offered same mechanic as AC Origins. In both games you use in-game currency to buy some kind of box/chest that gives you random loot. In both games you can find that loot just roaming around the world. And so far in both games you can only buy it with in-game currency.
And as i said before i am not ignoring previous AC games and their MT implementation. And as i pointed out you could never buy main in-game currency in any AC game.
Will there be MT in Origins? Probably. Did MT in any AC game before impacted core gameplay or gated something? No they didn't.
AC has had microtransactions to "help you save time" since Black Flag, so while you're right in that nobody knows for certain, there isn't much of a reason to give Ubisoft the benefit of a doubt on that one.
? For someone who claims that someone hasn't played a game, you sure seem to just shitpost without knowning anything about any AC. In every single AC with microtransactions, they failed to "adjust the scales in their favor" even in a single time.Holy Shit dude, DID YOU PLAY FUCKING HORIZON?
Even if you think Horizon and AC:O matchup the same way in your fantasy world with "Boxes" as the trigger point, look at your own goddamn OP
AC:O, trade game currency for Weapons/Shield, different rarities
Horizon, drops from everything, can buy using resources and in game currency for more RESOURCES!
YOU CAN NOT BUY WEAPONS OR ARMOR IN HORIZON THROUGH THOSE MYSTERY BOXES!
Those boxes in Horizon are an extra bonus, they capped player on resource gathering to a point.
I farmed the ever living shit out of Horizon, have so much resources, that my mystery boxes just added up over time, still to be used, but I gathered cause I like gathering
AC:O is not giving you just resources, it's asking you spend your Gold on RNG to maybe strike it rich
It's literally a currency sink, going by Ubisoft and how they do MTs it's now hard to fathom they'll adjust the scales in their favor
So spend 3000 Gold per chest in AC:O, get back shit rewards, which sell for shit gold.
Now your starving for gold, what do you do, go farm gold, which might take hours or pay $9.99 for upfront quick rerolls
There were several naughty dog is greedy threads before release I distinctly rememberi think people don't care about MT in Naughty Dog games because barely anyone cares about the multiplayer in Naughty Dog games.
Meanwhile, plenty of people care about the singleplayer in the first Assassin's Creed game since two years.
I feel like the reaction is proportional to how many people care about the game. - also, i do feel like, back then, there was a discussion about Uncharted's Multiplayer microtransactions.
btw, i haven't made a single post in the "AC:O loot boxes" thread - i just vehemently disagree with the "wait and see! pre-release outrage should never happen" hot take.
AC Unity was a little unbalanced in the beginning. You had to grind a bit to not get slaughtered.On the other hand, who gives a flying shit if they give you the option to buy it? Every single AC with microtransactions never had its game balance affected in any way, and I don't think it's going to start here.
Cross-posting if OP wants an answer as to why there is caution with Ubisoft
Helix Credits were a thing.
Thanks for the confirmation.There were several naughty dog is greedy threads before release I distinctly remember
On the other hand, who gives a flying shit if they give you the option to buy it? Every single AC with microtransactions never had its game balance affected in any way, and I don't think it's going to start here.
DE: Mankind Divided had microtransactions and nobody cared too.
I wasn't referring to OP post with that, but to other posters on this and other threads.I don't think that was his point, no.
In fact, not at all.
We're talking about RNG loot boxes. In the end the ones there were jammed in at the last minute and didn't impact the game.
There is a new trend where the game design is being gimped in order to incorporate them. It could turn out to be nothing in AC, but given the clear trends we've been seeing lately, there are reasons not to give them the benefit of doubt.
In this case nobody cared about the game all together.
I wasn't referring to OP post with that, but to other posters on this and other threads.
DE: Mankind Divided had microtransactions and nobody cared too.
On the other hand, who gives a flying shit if they give you the option to buy it? Every single AC with microtransactions never had its game balance affected in any way, and I don't think it's going to start here.
I'm really beginning to suspect that OP never played HZD at all...Holy Shit dude, DID YOU PLAY FUCKING HORIZON?
Even if you think Horizon and AC:O matchup the same way in your fantasy world with "Boxes" as the trigger point, look at your own goddamn OP
AC:O, trade game currency for Weapons/Shield, different rarities
Horizon, drops from everything, can buy using resources and in game currency for more RESOURCES!
YOU CAN NOT BUY WEAPONS OR ARMOR IN HORIZON THROUGH THOSE MYSTERY BOXES!
Those boxes in Horizon are an extra bonus, they capped player on resource gathering to a point.
I farmed the ever living shit out of Horizon, have so much resources, that my mystery boxes just added up over time, still to be used, but I gathered cause I like gathering
AC:O is not giving you just resources, it's asking you spend your Gold on RNG to maybe strike it rich
It's literally a currency sink, going by Ubisoft and how they do MTs it's now hard to fathom they'll adjust the scales in their favor
So spend 3000 Gold per chest in AC:O, get back shit rewards, which sell for shit gold.
Now your starving for gold, what do you do, go farm gold, which might take hours or pay $9.99 for upfront quick rerolls
Holy Shit dude, DID YOU PLAY FUCKING HORIZON?
Holy Shit dude, DID YOU PLAY FUCKING HORIZON?
Even if you think Horizon and AC:O matchup the same way in your fantasy world with "Boxes" as the trigger point, look at your own goddamn OP
AC:O, trade game currency for Weapons/Shield, different rarities
Horizon, drops from everything, can buy using resources and in game currency for more RESOURCES!
YOU CAN NOT BUY WEAPONS OR ARMOR IN HORIZON THROUGH THOSE MYSTERY BOXES!
Those boxes in Horizon are an extra bonus, they capped player on resource gathering to a point.
I farmed the ever living shit out of Horizon, have so much resources, that my mystery boxes just added up over time, still to be used, but I gathered cause I like gathering
AC:O is not giving you just resources, it's asking you spend your Gold on RNG to maybe strike it rich
It's literally a currency sink, going by Ubisoft and how they do MTs it's now hard to fathom they'll adjust the scales in their favor
So spend 3000 Gold per chest in AC:O, get back shit rewards, which sell for shit gold.
Now your starving for gold, what do you do, go farm gold, which might take hours or pay $9.99 for upfront quick rerolls
This is why thread titles need to be moderated.
Joe Schmo who can't be bothered reading now thinks a game that didn't have micro transactions now does.
OP you work for Ubi?
? For someone who claims that someone hasn't played a game, you sure seem to just shitpost without knowning anything about any AC. In every single AC with microtransactions, they failed to "adjust the scales in their favor" even in a single time.
Also, you can buy weapons at stores, from drops in the world, etc.
Claiming Horizon is very different because "YOU CAN NOT BUY WEAPONS OR ARMOR IN HORIZON THROUGH THOSE BOXES" is hilarious. It still gives you more than "resources", it gives you various equipment and traps.
I'm gonna stop you right there.Because i am kinda annoyed that people are complaining about Assassin's Creed Origins chest with random loot that you can buy with in-game currency
Man, the OP sure did go for an interesting ride there. Thread backfire followed by piggybacking on this idea that it was all just an experiment to see reactions when someone else brought it up, back to defending and doubling down on the original backfire.
It being an option is the first step into it affecting game balance.
Futhermore, Black Flag's endgame was delibaretly grindy. It was basically impossible to do the legendary ship missions without grinding a lot for full upgrades for your ships (or buying "time savers")
At the end of the day, these are companies looking for your money. If they see that people are more willing to buy 10$ worth of Helix points (or equivalent) if they give the player 10% less ingame currency, there's no universe in which they won't do exactly that.
Why would they need to? The OP never claimed HZD lootboxes could be bought with real money. And, as far as we know so far, that's the same case with AC Origins.I'm really beginning to suspect that OP never played HZD at all...