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Hostage situation at a church near Rouen in northern France (Update: it's over)
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Someone hasn't followed the news. There wouldn't have been a more inappropriate time to post something like this than today.
c'mon...
Mass_Pincup
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There's also been an attack in Japan, with at least 15 dead and dozens injured in a disabled facility.
RedSparrows
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Not sure that's what the guy is saying, actually. There's a fair bit of ground between 'stop sensationalising' and 'ignore everything'.
Yes I'm part of the problem. I'm partly responsible for these maniacs going around killing people. If only I would pretend things are normal.
Maybe you should look up the word nuance
Exactly. Every incident seems to have a few posters who try blow up every little event into being some kind of trigger for the apocalypse.
Do you have troubles understanding anything that it's not expressed literally? Or you just like to exaggerate everything to make a point?
Just your everyday criminal, beheading priests. Obviously.
It's nice to see that you find joy in a priest losing his life.
Yangshouwen
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Not again, ffs. Every other day there is an attack in Europe
Yes that's what you got from my post. Well done.
Sinfamy
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It's happening so often that now it's normal.
Because it's now normal, there's nothing to worry about.
If this is ISIS related, we somehow passed the phase of terrorist attacks organised by ISIS and reached the phase of terrorist attacks inspired by ISIS which is even more dangerous as it necessitates just brainwashing and no resources for organising them and it's much more difficult for the secret services to tackle, it not impossible.
Just a taste of your own medicine.
Just a taste of your own medicine.
Yangshouwen
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Yep, we have now become numb to these stories, the attacks don't surprise us anymore.
They've lost faith in the current governments we have and unfortunately are turning to the far right. If this keeps happening in France don't be surprised to see President Le pen in the next few years.
That's it. The more you make noise about terrorism/terror events and the more you publicise them, the more they win. You are literally enabling their terror.
Royal_Phalanx
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What do you think the government could do against crazies trying to sow chaos? The government aren't omnipotent or something, I guess your expectations for government are too much. Turning to far-right hateful lunatics in response to actions by other hateful lunatics isn't going to get much sympathy from me. If anything the government likely has stopped many more and don't publish it.
Well yeah, but most people still don't trust the far right (and for good reason). Lots of my friends in Germany don't agree with the current CDU government but they are not crazy enough to vote for the AfD. You should be worried when the average swing voters are desperate enough to go to far right parties for solutions.
Sinfamy
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Is this sarcasm?
Thousands of people have been dying in the Middle East due to terrorism and that gets almost no news coverage.
I get that you shouldn't sensationalize the story, but keeping your public uninformed will not decrease the occurrence of the attacks.
Are you proposing something or just commenting, cos whilst I agree with you. people ought to be informed about this sort of thing and when people hear that they are being targeted for death they do tend to panic/ over react / talk a lot of unrealistic nonsense.
i think i agree with you that we wont see "mass destruction" but I feel like things are most definitely getting worse
Mass_Pincup
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He's obviously talking about what's happening in western countries. Also there's a middle ground between not informing your public and making dozen of articles about his past, his friends, what does his family in another country thinks, what his neighbor thought of him etc...
I didn't say it was.
Didn't the far right almost come to power in Austria? In fact they might still when the votes are recounted. As for the rise of the far right, the more this keeps happening and the more the Government looks hopeless it will eventually happen. It will not happen overnight but it will be gradual and will happen.
Someone said what should the government do and I'm afraid I have no answer, but I'm also not a politician elected by the people to guarantee their safety. That's their job and they better come up with something quick because people are afraid.
It seems not related with terrorism.
your political campaign is disgusting
From a human point of view it does make sense to vote for the group that offers the simplest answers and that's the far-right. Trump saying he will build a wall and deport all Muslims makes sense to people who don't want to accept that there are no easy solutions to this problem. It makes them feel better if they keep it simple, approachable. Maybe they feel powerless and hopeless otherwise. If the far-right were to come to power though their lies would implode almost immediately. Just look at Brexit for instance.
I don't know. I don't know how we could solve this. Maybe propaganda? Tell those ISIS fighters they've been indoctrinated, give them hope, tell them suicide won't bring them to heaven? I also feel like the Muslim community is struggling with this, how the interpretation of Islam can be so wildly different. It makes fighting this so much harder. Because fighting it with weapons and air strikes won't solve anything.
It was terror related. Just not religious terrorism.
What is exactly the point that you're trying to make now? Far right this, far right that. Do you support the far right? Do you think the far right has the right answers?
The new votes won't change that much. The election was called off due to a technicality, not because of some counting error.
I do agree the solution isn't easy, but to the people it looks like the various Governments are barely trying at all. Especially in France where Hollande is looking increasingly spineless and out of ideas.
Because some people can also worry about the bigger picture.
Yes but the point is they were inches away from power. That's worrying.
I don't know why you put the word "spineless" in an otherwise OK post.
France seems to be running out of options. If the state of emergency can't prevent this, what can? The answer is nothing, nothing can prevent this. But that is exactly the answer that the human being can not accept because it makes it feel powerless. Some think about the context more and come to the reasonable conclusion that there are no easy solutions and some flock to the far-right. That's just natural.
I don't really know if any other reasonable politician could have done anything different than Hollande to be honest.
Let's just hope they're getting raped by virgin hounds of hell as we speak.
Not that I believe in hell, but hey, one can hope...
MisterFalcon
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The bigger picture: the right is always the real problem no matter how many are killed by others. Paris could get nuked tomorrow and the reaction would be: this is bad because it helps Le Pen.
BetterWorldz
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I'm in that camp, because the rise of the far right will spiral into even more attacks, more violence, more people dying.
Royal_Phalanx
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So a Trump presidency would be fine then. Good to know. You know it's possible to worry about both things right?
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
sammyCYBORG
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Surely it's far more normal to feel worried about how these evens could impact politics and your daily life going forward than it is sad about people you've never met.
Of course it's tragic and you can feel empathy for victims, but I don't think you can blame people for thinking about how these things would impact them personally more.
Of course it's tragic and you can feel empathy for victims, but I don't think you can blame people for thinking about how these things would impact them personally more.
Exactly, far right muppets haven't been this close to power since WWII.
kruis
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If we had right wing governments 20 years ago who had actually stopped immigration, none of the current attack waves would ever have happened. The left are to blame for the current mess.
Joke post?
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