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Reading the review now, but this line doesn't make much sense to me.
I had the exact same thought. Another glowing example of the sad state of video game websites.
Reading the review now, but this line doesn't make much sense to me.
I REALLY don´t like the fact that only the PC version has been reviewed...
why not other platforms..? is there something to hide..?
Soderstrom and Wedin have said many times that this will be the last Hotline Miami game. In my interview with them over on PCGamer they said This is the last Hotline Miami because were cramming everything we have in there. I dont think we can take it any further after this. That sums up this sequel nicely. Theyve put every idea theyve had into this, and not all of them are that great. Following up one of the greatest action games ever made was always going to be tough, but in search of a greater scope - more weapons, more characters, more everything - what made the original so fucking good has been a bit lost.
The maps of the original game are legendary. Everyone who has played it can explain in great detail how they would run through Decadence, Tension, or one of the many other memorable stages. Hotline Miami 2 just doesnt have that. Ive finished the main game and have gotten stuck on some of the levels for a while, doing them over and over again and as Im sat here right now, I can barely remember any details. It speaks volumes that in Hotline Miami, the level select screen shows a picture of the map youre about to enter. Hotline Miami 2 does not.
In fact, most of the stages that are in the more traditional map style are when the game is at its best, regardless of the character you have to play as. When the game gets a bit more experimental with its map design, such as the levels set in Hawaii or the really quite poor level set on a boat, with its huge open plan swaths of land, is when you find yourself slowly edging forward, zooming the screen, seeking that one hidden guy with a gun like youre playing Cannon Fodder and offing him from range. Theres no meaningful way to keep a combo going or find a flow through the stage without popping off a few rounds of the weapon he has and then switching to his knife when the enemies come to investigate the sound. Its not very.. well, Hotline Miami.
Nice to see some counterpoint reviews. Makes for a more interesting discussion.As was the case with the original, Hotline Miami 2s presentation a highlight. The whole thing looks like it has been recorded onto a broken VHS tape, with the screen skipping and jumping during pause screens and the rewind and fast forward prompts appearing as the story jumps backwards and forwards through the timeline. The soundtrack, somehow, is even better than the first one. Way more varied, with some guitar based tracks and some more ambient stuff alongside the ridiculous 80s synth tinged techno. Dennaton again show that in terms of creating an overall aesthetic and setting a particular atmosphere, theyre right up there with the best and outclass many AAA developers.
probably because the PC version has a level editor and maybe, and i'm just assuming here, the developers felt the game feels more true to its nature with KB + M considering the original game came out on PC first.
Pretty sure I remember the devs saying a while back that the level editor would be on all platforms.probably because the PC version has a level editor and maybe, and i'm just assuming here, the developers felt the game feels more true to its nature with KB + M considering the original game came out on PC first.
probably because the PC version has a level editor and maybe, and i'm just assuming here, the developers felt the game feels more true to its nature with KB + M considering the original game came out on PC first.
The PC Gamer review focuses on the thing I wondered about being the big sticking point for detractors of this game: namely, the more restrictive nature of the set characters for each level. I think that's going to be a divisive change for some.
I actually really liked Only God Forgives, though, so hey!
I REALLY don´t like the fact that only the PC version has been reviewed...
why not other platforms..? is there something to hide..?
PC version doesn't have the level editor yet.
Hopefully the level editor will increase the replayability.Yeah, after reading the review it makes a bit more sense. Sounds like the levels are (sometimes) too long and not conducive for the Hotline Miami replayability.
I REALLY don´t like the fact that only the PC version has been reviewed...
why not other platforms..? is there something to hide..?
Hopefully the level editor will increase the replayability.
Review scores are so ridiculous. I know I'm getting this because I enjoyed the first game, and yet I read over some of those scores and quotes in the OP and found myself doubting whether I should buy it.
One character carries a gun that can be switched for a knife at any time. He can't pick up dropped weapons at all, and if he runs out of ammo he needs to restock at scarce ammo crates. This turns Hotline Miami 2 into an entirely different gameand a worse one. Imagine the frustration of facing down an enemy that can only be wounded with bullets while playing as a character who is out of ammo but isn't, for some reason, allowed to use the guns that are right there. That's Hotline Miami 2.
Guidelines for a happy gaming life: You shouldn't give a shit about reviews, outside of the reporting of technical issues.
PC Gamer said:The original Hotline Miami was brutish, nasty, short.
VIDEOGAMER said:Hotline Miami was nasty, brutish, and short.
Review scores are so ridiculous. I know I'm getting this because I enjoyed the first game, and yet I read over some of those scores and quotes in the OP and found myself doubting whether I should buy it.
wow what?! why would they do this?!
As long as there's a checkpoint system is this really a big deal? In the first game, some of the later levels took me a while anyway due to all the deaths.Kinda disappointed they didn't keep the short and sweet stage design. "Levels" don't really mesh with the way I feel the game is meant to be played.
PC Gamer said:a series that revels in it
Deaths is not what I'm referring to- I was reading a review that was talking about how the reviewer had to search a level for the last guy. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it actually plays out.As long as there's a checkpoint system is this really a big deal? In the first game, some of the later levels took me a while anyway due to all the deaths.
They could have at least put them in the same order.
Uhhhhh, there's been one previous game in this long-running "series".
I try not to bag on review content but...
"Hotline Miami 2 improves upon its predecessor in a way that is pleasing, but non-essential. And to get there, it undercut the one thing that made the original great. Hotline Miami was nasty, brutish, and short. Hotline Miami 2, sadly, is not."
Which of the three things they listed is the ONE thing that made the original great.
The comparison to Only God Knows only makes me even more hyped.
Guidelines for a happy gaming life: You shouldn't give a shit about reviews, outside of the reporting of technical issues.
wow what?! why would they do this?!
Just sounds like a unique challenge (for better or worse). It's one character and all the masks/characters are there to allow you to play the game in different ways. There will always be ones that you prefer over others.
nope.and all the masks/characters are there
Add in the fact there are fewer masks and it feels like a major part of the game has been stripped out
Wow... they fucked up this game? How is it possible?
The original is one of the best games I've ever played... I though they couldn't get this to be worse. Maybe more of the same.
But then, the reviews are saying other thing. I'll wait to get this now...
Wow... they fucked up this game? How is it possible?
The original is one of the best games I've ever played... I though they couldn't get this to be worse. Maybe more of the same.
But then, the reviews are saying other thing. I'll wait to get this now...
Only God Forgives?
Wow... they fucked up this game? How is it possible?
The original is one of the best games I've ever played... I though they couldn't get this to be worse. Maybe more of the same.
But then, the reviews are saying other thing. I'll wait to get this now...
guess ill wait for PS+
These posts are what review threads are all about.
not much different than the biker stages in hm1
Great month so far. Olli Olli 2, Helldivers, Ori, Hotline Miami 2, Cities: Skyline, DMC: DE. Still got lots coming too.
Ahhh, love that the floodgates are opening. Feels good.