mugurumakensei
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We have one super reliable witness for this whole thing, the famed author Nick Cole. Surely the Hemingway / Cormac McCarthy of our time wouldn't just make shit up.
Exactly. Who would go on the Internet and just lie?
We have one super reliable witness for this whole thing, the famed author Nick Cole. Surely the Hemingway / Cormac McCarthy of our time wouldn't just make shit up.
JP: Of course, we all want something that's written well, but the book also has to have a hook that's easy to pitch. Much of my job as an editor is selling the book in-house to our publicity, marketing, and sales teams. If I can present the book to them concisely and give them a hook they can use when they are selling the book to accounts, the book has that much better of a chance in the marketplace.
JP: I know authors hate the idea of giving an agent a cut of what's often a small advance to begin with, but agents are a necessary part of the process. First, it's their job to know the editors and their interests, so rather than you sending your literary novel to an editor who buys science books because you saw their name somewhere, an agent will know exactly which editor is best suited for your book. Also, when problems arise, as they tend to do, the agent can act as a mediator, telling the author when they are asking for something that's impossible, or fighting for the author when they feel they should. So yes, I think agents definitely earn the commission they make and are good for the author to have on their side.
If I was going to be published e-only by Random House, I would receive just 25% of net ebook receipts. That’s about 17% of the ebook’s cover price as opposed to more like 70% by simply publishing direct with Amazon. I couldn’t understand why I’d want to do that. I mean, yes, I’d have listened if they’d come to me saying, “Harry, I know giving up 75% of those net receipts sounds like a lot, but we’re going to add a whole ton of value to the publication process. We’re going to do a whole heap of things that you can’t do on your own. And here’s a stack of in-house data which shows that we can boost your sales way past the point you could achieve.”
They didn’t say that. They didn’t actually make any argument at all. When I said no to 25% royalties, that was it. No further conversation.
Author Dawn Bennett has been told by HarperCollins Christian Publishing that she will have to condemn her daughter’s sexual orientation before her book can be published, reports Human Rights Campaign.
In an email from the publisher’s content evaluation department – managed by HarperCollins subsidiary Thomas Nelson publishing group, which considers homosexuality to be sinful behavior – Bennett was told any mention of “homosexual behavior” would have to be “presented as a sin”.
As soon as we learned of Ms. Bennett's petition we looked into the situation and determined that there was a third-party subjective application and misinterpretation of the editorial guidelines. It was not an accurate reflection on the editorial standards of Thomas Nelson, or any other publishing group within HarperCollins. We issued an apology to Ms. Bennett immediately, refunded her money and offered for her to continue the publishing process with WestBow. We are taking the appropriate steps to ensure that this does not happen again. We are sincerely sorry to her and her family for any harm, pain, or embarrassment that this may have caused.
There's checks and balances to prevent that.Exactly. Who would go on the Internet and just lie?
Censorship can be done by private groups, its just not illegal unless its the government doing it.
If they have a contract and he didn't do anything to violate it, then yes they are and he likely has grounds to sue.
I'm a published author. Unless this guy has a very powerful agent, his book contract would say that the publisher has the right to reject the book outright or even edit it as they see fit. When I turned in my novel I was told it was too long for the cover price they were going to charge for it. It had to be a certain length and if I didn't want to cut it down, they would do it themselves. I had to jettison an entire subplot (probably for the better). And good luck getting anyone to publish you again if you sue them, especially when you inevitably lose.Censorship can be done by private groups, its just not illegal unless its the government doing it.
If they have a contract and he didn't do anything to violate it, then yes they are and he likely has grounds to sue.
Publisher can reject you for any reason. That's not censorship it's business. Editor is often god. That's publishing.
If the dude is a sadpuppies activist or something then maybe there's more to it, but being at the political whims of an editor is completely normal.
Edit. Beaten by adamsappel
Are you trying to sell that as some new info here? That only proves they are aware of his selling potential (let me guess, not super high).
Have you people read his work? I read those sample chapters on the site. Ehhhhhhhhhhhh.
There is no reason to assume that.No and no. Just pointing out that Harper Collins has previously published his work which I would assume was of the same quality as his current book. I have no reason to not believe his story that they chose not to publish this one due to some content they wanted changed, not due to the fact they thought the book was poor. Until HC comes out with their account, we only have this to go on.
There is no reason to assume that.
There is no reason to assume that.
That's a fair point, but there's also no reason to dismiss his story as false as some in this thread are doing.
Publishers don't care if your book sucks, or about its politics, they care if your book will sell.
lol... he is #27 best selling author on Amazon sci-fi and 17# on kindle> sci-fi.
Someone did care. And it is wrong.
That's a fair point, but there's also no reason to dismiss his story as false as some in this thread are doing.
Well, you could also automatically believe a wild story by someone who posts hyperbolic rants, sells himself as new Hemingway, and has a vested monetary interest in putting out an outrage story about his 'banned' new book just as the said book came out. But I guess people believe everything Glenn Beck and Breitbart say too, so why not.
what is a chorf
what is a chorf
It'll probably be something like 'We dropped this shitty writer like a sack of hot potatoes because, like, have you read his work? It's terrible.'
Seriously, I read the preview chapters that are online. Dire stuff.
what exactly are you trying to establish , why not release the book and let the market decide if they like the book? Whats the point of defending the publisher when there's no precedent that it wont perform like his first book. I mean really how many shit sci fi books get released every year? Censorship is censorship, plenty of shitty books become smash hits no one saw coming *Twilight*. Subjectively i see why you say what you say but objectively true for everyone who would've read the book what foundation are you standing on? What's your justification?
what exactly are you trying to establish , why not release the book and let the market decide if they like the book? Whats the point of defending the publisher when there's no precedent that it wont perform like his first book. I mean really how many shit sci fi books get released every year? Censorship is censorship, plenty of shitty books become smash hits no one saw coming *Twilight*. Subjectively i see why you say what you say but objectively true for everyone who would've read the book what foundation are you standing on? What's your justification?
what exactly are you trying to establish , why not release the book and let the market decide if they like the book? Whats the point of defending the publisher when there's no precedent that it wont perform like his first book. I mean really how many shit sci fi books get released every year? Censorship is censorship, plenty of shitty books become smash hits no one saw coming *Twilight*. Subjectively i see why you say what you say but objectively true for everyone who would've read the book what foundation are you standing on? What's your justification?
lol... he is #27 best selling author on Amazon sci-fi and 17# on kindle> sci-fi.
Someone did care. And it is wrong.