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How are you dealing with people who voted for Trump?
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
High fives, congrats, etc
In that scenario, those kind of people would actually say "There is no lake" or "We're post-lake. He can't be drowning."
Audible Phonetics
Member
If I hear one more person say hillary and email and Benghazi.
This isn't clever, it's boring and lazy. 59 million people are racist? Yeah, no. It's really hard for you to grasp how disliked Hillary really was, and how people voted for Trump as an anti-vote, isn't it? Stop making people out to be so simply and binary, it's not like that with an individual, who is complex and may have a wide variety of conflicting emotions and thoughts.
I like you. You watch Dave Ruben, I can tell. Love that dude.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
I'm the opposite. Racists I can understand voting for someone like Trump. Anyone else I don't. The man has ZERO redeeming qualities whatsoever other than "he speaks his mind."
Great points.
You do realize this vote has real consequences for real people? It's not a sport where everyone can just shake hands and say "good game", especially after the sort of campaign Trump ran and won with. You had Trump supporters preparing for armed revolt over far milder shit. And where do you get off complaining about someone being undemocratic? Trump lost the popular vote. Meanwhile, voter suppression, intimidation, gutting the voting rights act, and pandering to violent white supremacist groups were key strategies utilized by the winning party. I don't think everyone is just going to go back to being friends.
CrispyBoar
Banned
All I have to say is, is that my sister & everyone else who's for him are going to be feeling very stupid once his true colors starts showing & will want him impeached then.
No one who voted for Trump is a complex individual.
So basically, democrats didn't turn out because they figured Hillary was a slam dunk?
Or because they weren't happy with Hillary as the nominee.
Good lord, it's still astounding how off the mark you are.
No one is taking away their freedom. We just don't want their bigotry to affect politics.
The fact that you can't make that distinction tells me you don't give a fuck about minorities.
Glass Shark
Banned
59 million people voted for a man with openly racist and bigoted ideals, so they supported those ideals to some degree or another. I believe those people are racist. Sorry if you disagree. I'm not making some fantastic leap of logic here. It's pretty simple.
TheTylerRob
Member
Haha I was gonna shit on this post too, but this is a dumb thing to say. Probably why they hate us.
Yep, that too
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Neither you nor your family were constantly disparaged by his campaign though right? It's great that you love them but you didn't really have any strong motivation to be opposed to them voting Trump in the first place.
My coworker told me her husband voted Trump, that it was the first vote he'd ever cast in his life (he's in his 40s), and that if this had happened while she was dating him out would've been a total dealbreaker for her. She seemed very...sullen and exhausted. I felt bad for her, I couldn't imagine coming home feeling heavier than a lead boat to a house celebrating the source of my misery.
mikespit1200
Member
Sup Classical Liberal Buddies.
They hate "us" because we stick up for black people and gay people and women, et cetera.
Not hard for me, my wife is taking it a little harder. Talked to my brother who voted trump, its all good there, he gave me reasons and i accepted ect. What i am kinda pissed at is my cousin basically shit talking liberals in general. He never said anything to me since we are family, but its almost as if he did.
So far is 75% good/ 25% bad
So far is 75% good/ 25% bad
PsychoSoldier
Banned
As someone who will have to deal with this shit in terms of my family, I'm going to walk out if they start talking politics.
I can normally deal with it, but this shit is too real.
I can normally deal with it, but this shit is too real.
Haloid1177
Banned
Why would I be mad or "deal" with people who voted for Trump's when Dems are the entire reason he was elected? Ridiculous.
Glass Shark
Banned
definitely seems like a productive point of view, keep being edgy
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Ehh, I wish Dave would actually ask hard questions of some of the far right, or alt right loonies he has on sometimes. He is pretty good though, and I think my politics match up with his.
Also, I like when he has Sam Harris on.
As a Latino you're wrong. You'll never see it though because you're convinced your answer is the only possible answer....arrogance.
Ah, you were in that 33%. Got it.
TimeEffect
Member
My parents are happy and will rub it in my face. I was so sure he would lose, that I told them that. Now I look like an idiot who doesnt know anything, and they will be emboldened in thinking America is Pro Trump. We live in Liberal Canada, and I dont want them expressing their bullshit to family and friends and coworkers, who I presume are liberal.
I was hoping this would all just blow over.
I was hoping this would all just blow over.
breakfuss
Member
Perhaps a discussion for another thread and day, but I'm beginning to question my understanding of what it means for someone to identify as Latino. Such a broad, almost ambiguous term. At least in the context of politics (especially after last night) it seems meaningless.
Disheveled_Zen
Member
Hide their posts on facebook, change of subject in conversations, and move on. All you can really do at this stage.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I don't let hyperbole rule my life and I have been around long enough to know that a president doesn't matter as much as people seem to think he, or she, does.
Did I want Hillary to win? Yeah. Am I suprised she didn't? No, because I don't live inside of Liberal echo chambers. Anyone who actually spent time with a lot of different people out there could have told you there was a chance of this happening. Look at my post history if you have to, I warned people that the Regressive Left would cost her this election, but I got pilled on and ridiculed.
People are blaming the racists, but there are not enough racists in this country to win. What happened is the constant attack on white people by the regressive left has pissed the moderates off and forced spite votes. The alt-rights ascendancy is directly related to the histrionics seen in stuff like the cab driver freakout and Hugh Mungus.
This is a hard pill for many to swallow because we all want social progression, but trying to shame away the hate isn't going to work. You have to reach these people, not push them away.
Social Justice is a slow moving process, and I fear that the attempts to accelerate by the RL may have set it back decades.
I don't believe anyone in my family is a bigot or racist for voting for Trump. Likewise they don't chastise me for voting for Hillary.
Turning on a fellow liberal and Hillary voter is exactly what you need to be doing right now....
The left just spent 8 years trying to compromise with a republican party who have blocked/obstructed/delayed as much as possible, repeatedly suppress voters in demographics that vote democrat, just won a presidential election despite losing the popular vote.
Its not the "regressive left" who you should be fighting, and its disingenuous to paint them as the problem for not wanting to deal with Trump voters anymore
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Donald Trump literally started his campaign by calling all hispanics rapists and murderers. He doesn't give a shit about you, neither do any of your "allies" who're white. You fucked yourself, and you, your children, and your family will be feeling it for decades. Congrats.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
This.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
You didn't actually answer my question.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
If you are wondering what my race is, yes I am white. We live in Texas, and are upper middle class. You can commence ignoring my opinion now.
I think the opposite. Off the top of my head, there's two big problems for us Democrats when it comes to elections.
1. The false "both sides" narrative is too strong. While the reality is that the two parties are more different than alike, the Democrats have completely failed to highlight it. They still love big money, wall street donors, and engage in the same sort of cronyism enough to distract from everything else. There are too many instances of Democrats pandering to corporate interests and being dismissive of populist appeals. It's one reason I was a big Bernie stan before leaving that group as the primaries wound down and they started acting unhinged.
2. There's no quality pitch to win support for working class people. While I do think a big part of the problem is the people themselves (a disconnect with reality), it doesn't make it less of a problem. Lots of the jobs they want back are not coming back at any significant numbers, or for any long term. Period. The void is filled with false promises, and racism/xenophobia to shift blame. I have no clue how to fix this, but I don't know that anyone does, really.
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