Support NeoGAF

[grimshawish]

They just look too kiddy. It's hard enough living in a place where even GTA and GOW are considered kids games.

GTA5 will have nowhere near the young audience the previous games had; its just a mature game now, its no longer some sort of 'holy grail' of mature content, there have been tons of games doing that stuff this gen.

COD holds that position and yeah its a bit odd that the WWII series is considered a 'mature' game; and frankly it only was for COD4 but they are 15/18 games that have a large child following.

 

[AniHawk]

I don't even know if I can ever stomach a replay of Skyward Sword, that shit would be painful as fuck.

ALSO, you didn't like the ship dungeon? I thought that one was phenomenal.

The other big problem with Zelda: TUTORIALS/Sidekicks and slow text.

Please, Nintendo. It's 2013. Go into your options menu and add a SPEED/SKIP TEXT option for the love of all that is Holy. Also put in a TURN OFF SIDEKICK TIPS/TRICKS in the option menu.

There, now you can serve up the ridiculously obvious clues to the mentally handicapped portion of your audience and leave the rest of us to show you have some goddamn respect for our latent abilities, christ.

oh fuck, i forgot the ship level.


...yeah, that was pretty all right.

it's funny because all the bells and whistles when it comes to presentation are right there in games that nintendo publishes from other companies (see treasure and sin & punishment 2), but they're notably absent in the main games. that's really where the design feels archaic- not because there aren't any achievements or there's little voice acting, but because i can't just fucking skip the text oh my god.

 

[toddhunter]

I suppose Disaster, Geist and Eternal Darkness don't count either.

Xenoblade is a Nintendo game. This is why the thread was made in the first place. Because OP can't understand why someone would dismiss an entire label when there's so much variety.

But again that's the point, there isn't a rule to Nintendo's games unless you live in a bubble or want to place Nintendo in a certain light. You can't say you hate Nintendo game and then say "That doesn't count" because it bloody well does count.

Ok lets try a different track, because people are getting excited.

There is a huge difference between you thinking that is wrong and a travesty of justice and the reality of the situation. If you ask people what they think of Xenoblade, the majority will say that they kind of liked it but the second game sucked.

That might mean their opinion about not liking nintendo games is misguided or based on ignorance or anything else. That kind of doesn't matter. When you are trying to understand why most people say they don't like "nintendo games" these examples don't even come into the equation.

If they are looking at the entirety of nintendo's output from all time and still find nothing to like, then yes, that is a bit rich. But why exactly would you be trying to argue against this?

 

[Ghost_Protocol]

:lol, this makes absolutely no sense.

Putting Xenoblade in the same category as the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises is kind of absurd. Come on. You know what he meant.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

Putting Xenoblade in the same category as the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises is kind of absurd. Come on. You know what he meant.

But that's the whole fucking point of this thread, people think Nintendo only Mario games while they do much more

 

[Glorified G]

Skyward Sword has many great dungeons, several which are the best in the series, but to get to them you have to complete a metric fuckton of filler between every dungeon with includes repeating a certain boss multiple time, escort quests, fucking losing your weapons and having to retrieve them, Banjo note collection (once again: fuck-the-fucking-fuck-hell off, Nintendo), on and on. For every legitimately well executed concept (say, the way they tried to up the meaningful nature of sidequests with particular town characters, but fell short of Majora's Mask in execution), there is ten more than is good in concept but bad in execution.

That's the sad part about Skyward Sword. There are amazing dungeons I'll never get to replay due to the awful pacing. Don't make a 50 hour game just because. Combined with the dated n64 quality presentation (press A to continue.....read......press A to continue.....) The series needs a serious reboot.

 

[Riposte]

You do know that people are wrong and you're just submiting to peer pressure, right?

I'm 24 and I don't give a fuck what anyone says... And haha gow/gta are franchises that kids play to feel like adults, not kiddy.

You are doing the same thing that people calling Nintendo kiddy are doing, with the exception that many Nintendo games are actually marketed to children (e.g. Pokemon).

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

That's the sad part about Skyward Sword. There are amazing dungeons I'll never get to replay due to the awful pacing. Don't make a 50 hour game just because. Combined with the dated n64 quality presentation (press A to continue.....read......press A to continue.....) The series needs a serious reboot.

While I agree with what you said, Zelda doesn't need a reboot... Hell, most zelda games are totally unrelated anyways

 

[Rorschach]

I turn 24 this year, how long do I have left?

Probably a couple of years at most. Some people never grow up, though.

 

[Jamix012]

I don't understand how people can have unwavering loyalty to a company thats been giving you the same exact shit for 30 years. I guess its like a security blanket they can wrap around themselves.

I loved Nintendo franchises, from the mid 80s until the GameCube era. But enough is enough. Its the same shit, with the same general themes, wrapped in a new coat of paint, and slap a new control gimmick on it.

As much as it blows OPs mind how someone can not like Nintendo franchises, it equally blows my mind how someone can show such undying loyalty and fervor to one company. I mean if you are a Nintendo only gamer, you missed the Game of the a generation - Red Dead Redemption. And you missed one of the greatest fucking games ever made. (Along with many other awesome 3rd party games, but I will spare you the list). So no I don't get the Nintendo only gamer. I will never get it. If this was 1985, then maybe I could understand it. But not today.

It blows my mind how people can be a Nintendo only gamer too, but outside of young children and those without money to purchase games often I don't think this is that common place. If you're implying I'm a Nintendo-only fan I can assure you that I'm very much not. Many of my favourite games are not available on Nintendo consoles at all though I admitadley haven't got around to playing Red Dead Redemption but this generation I've definately enjoyed my Xbox 360 more than my Wii.

 

[sechsterangriff]

But again that's the point, there isn't a rule to Nintendo's games unless you live in a bubble or want to place Nintendo in a certain light. You can't say you hate Nintendo game and then say "That doesn't count" because it bloody well does count.

No.
The point is because when your games that are not your usual IP, the "variety" is but a handful of games that spans console generations, the perception (and that's the key word here) that some people get is that it's always the same shit. When these types of games are few and released far between it's no wonder some people think Nintendo games are nothing but Mario, Zelda and friends.

And give me a break by not asking me to consider Nintendo published games as "Nintendo games".
Sin and Punishment is a Treasure game. Not Nintendo's. Same way as Bayonetta is not a SEGA game.

 

[MYE]

I LOVED Skyward Sword. One of my favorite games this gen.
Twilight Princess on the other hand.... was okay/good. Never played the DS ones.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

You are doing the same thing that people calling Nintendo kiddy are doing, with the exception that many Nintendo games are actually marketed to children (e.g. Pokemon).

We all know Nintendo games are marketed to everyone, if you think you need to stop playing Nintendo games at a certain age then you're not an adult.

 

[TL4E]

It's probably irrational blanket dislike stemming from some childhood anti-Nintendo fanboyism.

It can't possibly be because of the "childish" tone of Nintendo games. Nintendo have plenty of "mature" games.

 

[omg_mjd]

I've always found the "new" Mario to be creepy as hell. Classic non-speaking 8-bit Mario is ok though.

As for Nintendo games in general, I enjoyed playing Mario Kart and Animal Crossing on my DS. Never liked any of the other DS Mario games and was annoyed by the characters in Phantom Hourglass.

I look forward to playing through Super Metroid one of these days. And probably a Link to the Past. If I ever get a 3DS it would be to check out Kid Icarus.

 

[Zephyrus]

Man, I'm 23 as well and my father always has this disgusted look on his faces when he sees me playing FPS but he watched my playthrough of Twilight Princess even though he only played a game once in his entire life.

good for you. I'm not as lucky

 

[timetokill]

Putting Xenoblade in the same category as the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises is kind of absurd. Come on. You know what he meant.

I know what he meant and I know he's missing the entire point of the thread. As are you.

The "Nintendo exception" rule apparently applies to Nintendo's software itself, not just as a comparison to everyone else.

- Japan is struggling to sell games -> Nintendo seems to be doing pretty well -> Nintendo doesn't count
- Nintendo doesn't make epic games with good stories -> Nintendo made Xenoblade -> Xenoblade doesn't count


The entire premise of this thread is that people saying "I don't like Nintendo games" as a blanket statement is ridiculous when you consider the sheer breadth and variety of games they produce.

People tried to justify it by saying, "Well Nintendo doesn't make games with ____ or ____ in them", and people responded with, "What about _________ or __________?"

That's answered with, "oh lol that doesn't count?" Are you kidding me?

 

[Ghost_Protocol]

But that's the whole fucking point of this thread, people think Nintendo do only Mario games while they don't.

No one thinks Nintendo ONLY does Mario games. Why are you pretending not to understand the complaint? When people say they're tired of Nintendo games, they mean they're tired of the long running storied franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, etc.). The games you buy a Nintendo system for. It should go without saying that they aren't talking about stuff like Sin and Punishment or Xenoblade, which came out yesterday by comparison.

The complaint is that Nintendo needs to shake up its core franchises to draw the people who left back in.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

It's probably irrational blanket dislike stemming from some childhood anti-Nintendo fanboyism.

It can't possibly be because of the "childish" tone of Nintendo games. Nintendo have plenty of "mature" games.

Plenty? I don't know about that.

 

[Selvaria]

I can enjoy most Nintendo games. They're great fun while I'm playing them. But after I put the controller down, I rarely have any desire to go back them. I feel like they lack that hook other games have. But that's just me.

 

[defferoo]

I'm 23 and I'm one of those people.

They just look too kiddy. It's hard enough living in a place where even GTA and GOW are considered kids games.

you're 23 and you're caring about looking kiddy? man, that's really limiting yourself. and if GTA and GOW are kids games, what are "adults" games. If anything, nintendo is the most mature company, their games are all inclusive, and are suitable for all ages. IMHO that's the most mature mindset.

that doesn't mean i don't play "mature" games, i play those too. but to deprive yourself of mario galaxy if you're into platformers, or zelda if you like action/adventure games just because they look too kiddy is just sad

 

[Cromat]

I just don't put them on a pedestal. They make good games but so do a lot of other companies.

Also, as people in this thread already mention they rely too much on their old franchises, and they celebrate their legacy too much in my opinion. They should make a big new bold game, they clearly have the talent for it.

 

[Glorified G]

While I agree with what you said, Zelda doesn't need a reboot... Hell, most zelda games are totally unrelated anyways

Reboot may be a little too strong as the core dungeon design is excellent. But big changes are needed to be made to the presentation and pacing to the series. I know a lot people here in their 20-30s who grew up on Zelda can't imagine voice acting being implemented but they need to bring this series into the 21st century. Kid Icarus shows when Nintendo puts in the effort, they can have great voice acting.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

That's answered with, "oh lol that doesn't count?" Are you kidding me?

pretty much fucking this

Reboot may be a little too strong as the core dungeon design is excellent. But big changes are needed to be made to the presentation and pacing to the series. I know a lot people here in their 20-30s who grew up on Zelda can't imagine voice acting being implemented but they need to bring this series into the 21st century. Kid Icarus shows when Nintendo puts in the effort, they can have great voice acting.

dragon quest VIII showed me that voice acting can work, just make Link a mute

No one thinks Nintendo ONLY does Mario games. Why are you pretending not to understand the complaint? When people say they're tired of Nintendo games, they mean they're tired of the long running storied franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, etc.). The games you buy a Nintendo system for. It should go without saying that they aren't talking about stuff like Sin and Punishment or Xenoblade, which came out yesterday by comparison.

The complaint is that Nintendo needs to shake up its core franchises to draw the people who left back in.

Mario Galaxy mixed it up A LOT
Zelda went with that motion controller stuff
Metroid went FPS and did well
Pokemon is still Pokemon, it's doing well
Donkey Kong Returns is nice

I don't see what kind of spin anyone is expecting

 

[Amir0x]

oh fuck, i forgot the ship level.


...yeah, that was pretty all right.

it's funny because all the bells and whistles when it comes to presentation are right there in games that nintendo publishes from other companies (see treasure and sin & punishment 2), but they're notably absent in the main games. that's really where the design feels archaic- not because there aren't any achievements or there's little voice acting, but because i can't just fucking skip the text oh my god.

It's so weird too because of how simple it would be to fix. Nintendo is known for polish, and they can't seem to polish the most obvious shit about the Zelda franchise already.

That's the sad part about Skyward Sword. There are amazing dungeons I'll never get to replay due to the awful pacing. Don't make a 50 hour game just because. Combined with the dated n64 quality presentation (press A to continue.....read......press A to continue.....) The series needs a serious reboot.

I was so taken aback by Skyward Sword. I genuinely hadn't ever anticipated a Zelda game as much as Skyward Sword, because they were saying all the right things about it prior to release. And other Zelda games, at least on consoles, had never really failed to amaze and please me before. I thought how could this be wrong?

Man... I was never so disappointed as after I credit rolled Skyward Sword and for the first time in console Zelda history thought to myself "that's it?"

I still think it's an OK game, Zelda games are generally never BAD games, but they set such a high standard in the genre and to just stumble that badly was a really shock to me. I know many disagree with my assessment, however.

 

[Riposte]

We all know Nintendo games are marketed to everyone, if you think you need to stop playing Nintendo games at a certain age then you're not an adult.

What's the difference between saying "Nintendo is for kids" and "Grand Theft Auto is for kids"?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Majora's Mask: What if Ocarina of Time was made in 18 months?
Wind Waker: What if Ocarina of Time was made in 24 oh shit 20 oh shit 15 months?
Twilight Princess: What if we made Ocarina of Time again?
Skyward Sword: What if we made super mario galaxy, but as a zelda game?

This got a pretty good laugh out of me

TP is my favorite of those, love those dungeons, but I'll never play them again because the game gives KH2 a running for slowest damn opening in the past decade of AAA games

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

No one thinks Nintendo ONLY does Mario games. Why are you pretending not to understand the complaint? When people say they're tired of Nintendo games, they mean they're tired of the long running storied franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, etc.). The games you buy a Nintendo system for. It should go without saying that they aren't talking about stuff like Sin and Punishment or Xenoblade, which came out yesterday by comparison.

The complaint is that Nintendo needs to shake up its core franchises to draw the people who left back in.

Well play xenoblade. Thats not new enough for you? You are tired of thise franchises play the new one.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

What's the difference between saying "Nintendo is for kids" and "Grand Theft Auto is for kids"?

there's not difference, both are wrong

 

[javac]

No.
The point is because when your games that are not your usual IP, the "variety" is but a handful of games that spans console generations, the perception (and that's the key word here) that some people get is that it's always the same shit. When these types of games are few and released far between it's no wonder some people think Nintendo games are nothing but Mario, Zelda and friends.

And give me a break by not asking me to consider Nintendo published games as "Nintendo games".
Sin and Punishment is a Treasure game. Not Nintendo's. Same way as Bayonetta is not a SEGA game.

At the end of the day you can't expect it both ways. Either Nintendo whores it's games or they don't show it enough love. The way I see it, Nintendo every gen make a few titles that break the mold. A lot of these titles never return but that's the way it is. One off titles just like Sony with journey and Tokyo Jungle. Or ICO and Shadow of the Colossus. A lot of people wouldn't know what these games are in the real world but here on GAF we know better then that. These games do matter and do flesh out the systems library.

 

[MYE]

No one thinks Nintendo ONLY does Mario games. Why are you pretending not to understand the complaint? When people say they're tired of Nintendo games, they mean they're tired of the long running storied franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, etc.). The games you buy a Nintendo system for. It should go without saying that they aren't talking about stuff like Sin and Punishment or Xenoblade, which came out yesterday by comparison.

The complaint is that Nintendo needs to shake up its core franchises to draw the people who left back in.

We have people in this very thread saying every Nintendo game since the Wii/DS era has been mediocre except Super Mario Galaxy.

I get what you are saying but there ARE people that explicitly claim to have no interest or to deslike everything they make. They are obviously free to feel that way but it still feels silly to hear it

 

[AniHawk]

It's so weird too because of how simple it would be to fix. Nintendo is known for polish, and they can't seem to polish the most obvious shit about the Zelda franchise already.

super mario galaxy 2 was a super streamlined and awesome game. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE COMET ARRIVING ANIMATION EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE ARE GREEN STARS.

 

[grimshawish]

oh fuck, i forgot the ship level.


...yeah, that was pretty all right.

it's funny because all the bells and whistles when it comes to presentation are right there in games that nintendo publishes from other companies (see treasure and sin & punishment 2), but they're notably absent in the main games. that's really where the design feels archaic- not because there aren't any achievements or there's little voice acting, but because i can't just fucking skip the text oh my god.

Ship Dungeon and just the scale and world was amazing. I played quite recently so I instantly knew this is what they rumoured 'large dungeons' are coming in the next Zelda.

My favourite is the lake dungeon and the whip just cause it was so much fun, but that sea was great stuff.

 

[Messofanego]

I just don't have a Wii or DS.

But I liked Donkey Kong Country, Metroid Prime, Ocarina of Time, and Mario 64.

They just don't have interesting characters or stories, so never felt compelled to try the sequels or buy a Nintendo system. If a roommate had a Wii, I'd love to experience Mario Galaxy for the first time though since that looks different compared to previous iterations. My Nintendo fiend of a friend constantly praises everything about Mario Galaxy.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I just don't have a Wii or DS.

But I liked Donkey Kong Country, Metroid Prime, Ocarina of Time, and Mario 64.

They just don't have interesting characters or stories, so never felt compelled to try the sequels or buy a Nintendo system. If a roommate had a Wii, I'd love to experience Mario Galaxy for the first time though since that looks different compared to previous iterations. My Nintendo fiend of a friend constantly praises everything about Mario Galaxy.

how can you know they don't have interesting characters of stories if you don't own the systems or given it a chance?

Play Mario Galaxy 2(don't play Galaxy 1) and Kid Icarus, I'll be waiting for the apology

 

[AniHawk]

I just don't have a Wii or DS.

But I liked Donkey Kong Country, Metroid Prime, Ocarina of Time, and Mario 64.

They just don't have interesting characters or stories, so never felt compelled to try the sequels or buy a Nintendo system. If a roommate had a Wii, I'd love to experience Mario Galaxy for the first time though since that looks different compared to previous iterations. My Nintendo fiend of a friend constantly praises everything about Mario Galaxy.

galaxy is okay. the sequel is much better.

how can you know they don't have interesting characters of stories if you don't own the systems or given it a chance?

come on. outside of xenoblade (ehhhhhh) and skyward sword, what is there?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

how can you know they don't have interesting characters of stories if you don't own the systems or given it a chance?

Play Mario Galaxy 2

I've played SMG2

there are no interesting characters or stories in that game

it's also a REALLY fuckin' good game, top 5 for the past generation, so it doesn't really matter

 

[Ricky 7]

Like many people have already said "Nintendo Games" isn't a genre. Nintendo develops games from every genre so it would be pretty impossible to find a sane individual who hates every game developed by Nintendo first party studios.

 

[Diablos54]

super mario galaxy 2 was a super streamlined and awesome game. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE COMET ARRIVING ANIMATION EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE ARE GREEN STARS.

Better than watching your damn avatar cut me up with a fucking silver moon blade without being able to skip it as I tried to brake the game by beating him at

Spoiler

Crescent Island.

 

[Not Spaceghost]

I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you that Mario games have never appealed to me ever, it isn't mario or the aesthetic it is the style of gameplay. The only mario games oddly enough that I love are the paper mario series that shit is so cash.

Spoiler

I am also one of like 8 people in the world that though Sunshine was an awesome game

Zelda games have grown way too stagnant for my tastes, every new zelda is just ocarina of time with a gimmick, not that there is anything wrong with the games because they're solidly built I'm just bored of them. Lately I have been trying play games that are different that try new things, and nintendo games all feel really samey with a new twist so there isn't anything truly worth playing in their library for me right now.

This is a completely subjective thing though, I will always treasure the moments I had with Nintendo's big franchises but they are just so stagnant now. Mario Galaxy was okay, I recognize why everyone was treating it as game of the forever but in my book it wasn't anything special other than being the top its genre, a genre I haven't really cared too much about.

Really though I am just apathetic towards nintendo at this point, they haven't made me go WHOA I NEED TO PLAY THAT NOW since like Metroid Prime.

 

[LuchaShaq]

It's pretty simple I don't think they have done a single interesting thing with their bigges franchises since the n64.

At this point a Mario or Zelda game is as predictable as COD clone #7

Some of their fringe stuff like fire emblem and Kirby stuff is often interesting but its far too small a piece of their game output.

 

[TL4E]

Plenty? I don't know about that.

Metroid, most Zelda games, F Zero, Fire Emblem, etc. A game can have more than 5 colors and still be mature.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

galaxy is okay. the sequel is much better.



come on. outside of xenoblade (ehhhhhh) and skyward sword, what is there?

he said "But I liked Donkey Kong Country, Metroid Prime, Ocarina of Time, and Mario 64. " those games aren't story driven or anything, I don't see why suddenly we or anyone needs a fucking amazing storyline out of nowhere... Kid Icarus has a great story while being funny, quirky, and celf referential.

Fire Emblem has decent stories with great characters, every Mario RPG is awesome, Pikmin has an awesome setting. I actually liked the story in Pokmeon 5th Gen too

FUCKING MOTHER 1-3

I've played SMG2

there are no interesting characters or stories in that game

it's also a REALLY fuckin' good game, top 5 for the past generation, so it doesn't really matter

I said Mario Galaxy 2 because he said he wanted to play Galaxy 1, it had nothing to do with the statement I said.

 

[MvmntInGrn]

I don't even know if I can ever stomach a replay of Skyward Sword, that shit would be painful as fuck.

ALSO, you didn't like the ship dungeon? I thought that one was phenomenal.

This is the dungeon I left off at and I thought it was incredibly boring. I pretty much stop playing when I get to dungeons in this game as they have been so bland.

I get the TP dungeon love. OOT is very good as well. MM deserves more attention (love the multi-level design, works better in 3D than 2D). But SS sits right next to WW when it comes to boring dungeons. I don't know what it is. Maybe its just the gameplay I don't enjoy dragging me away from the dungeon design. I remember WW dungeons being pretty impressive in scale at least.

Majora's Mask: What if Ocarina of Time was made in 18 months?
Wind Waker: What if Ocarina of Time was made in 24 oh shit 20 oh shit 15 months?
Twilight Princess: What if we made Ocarina of Time again?
Skyward Sword: What if we made super mario galaxy, but as a zelda game?

This got a pretty good laugh out of me

Amazing.

 

[Amir0x]

galaxy is okay.

yo I will fucking CUT you already with this shi--

the sequel is much better.

--you ain't such a bad guy, Anihawk. We cool.

super mario galaxy 2 was a super streamlined and awesome game. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE COMET ARRIVING ANIMATION EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE ARE GREEN STARS.

NSMB games why do you keep reusing assets and music why fucking WHY already

This is the dungeon I left off at and I thought it was incredibly boring. I pretty much stop playing when I get to dungeons in this game as they have been so bland.

I guess we could never be friends then, sad

Anyway you did the right thing, if you get bored of a game you should stop playing it. I adored it though. Fantastic puzzles, including one particular novel puzzle that was a real brain bender that was a blast to solve. And a super incredible ending that reminded me simultaneously of Uncharted 2 and Zelda's best boss battles. Although the monster design looked straight out of Monsters Inc., weird as FUCK.

I get the TP dungeon love. OOT is very good as well. MM deserves more attention (love the multi-level design, works better in 3D than 2D). But SS sits right next to WW when it comes to boring dungeons. I don't know what it is. Maybe its just the gameplay I don't enjoy dragging me away from the dungeon design. I remember WW dungeons being pretty impressive in scale at least.

now you're dissing Wind Waker, we through bro we through >

 

[Diablos54]

NSMB games why do you keep reusing assets and music why fucking WHY already

Because it's NEW SMB. Or something... Actually... If it was new then we'd get... Ah. Yea... Step the fuck up Nintendo!

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I don't like Zelda anymore
I honestly dislike any new super mario game(haven't played wii u one, played the other 3)



Animal Crossing
Pikmin 3
Luigi's Mansion(is fucking awesome)

These 3 games came out or are coming out really soon, and they aren't the usual rehashes everyone bitches about, Nintendo does other stuff aside of Mario/Zelda. The only other game I'm still mad about is Other M

 

[spirity]

fuck fuck fucketty fuck

And I thought I swore a lot!

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

And I thought I swore a lot!

I swear a lot, my girlfriend reminds me of it every single day




fuck

 

[Crash Station]

And give me a break by not asking me to consider Nintendo published games as "Nintendo games".
Sin and Punishment is a Treasure game. Not Nintendo's. Same way as Bayonetta is not a SEGA game.

Pokemon is a Game Freak game, not a Nintendo game.
Fire Emblem is an Intelligent Systems game, not a Nintendo game.
Kirby is a HAL Laboratory game, not a Nintendo game.
Donkey Kong Country is a Rare game, not a Nintendo game.
Mario and Luigi is an Alpha Dream game, not a Nintendo game.