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[Kraftwerk]

Take Joe and Sarah. Real humans who were plugged into the matrix.

Now, inside the matrix, they get married and she becomes pregnant and gives birth to a child inside the simulation. The child grows up, and Morpheus frees that child years later by unplugging him and freeing them from the system. They have a body outside in the real world.

How was that kid born outside the program? Do I just not remember the explanation for this?

 

[StayDead]

Take Joe and Sarah. Real humans who were plugged into the matrix.

Now, inside the matrix, they get married and she becomes pregnant and gives birth to a child inside the simulation. The child grows up, and Morpheus frees that child years later by unplugging him and freeing them from the system. They have a body outside in the real world.

How was that kid born outside the program? Do I just not remember the explanation for this?

Maybe they artificially inseminate their real bodies so the real body actually gives birth at the same time, then they just move the baby to the new pod when it's born?

 

[The Kree]

The machines combine the dna of the parents to create a new pod baby, insert it into a power plant, and simulate the birth in the Matrix.

 

[xRaizen]

Don't the sentinels just inseminate the female once she gets pregnant in the simulation?

 

[Syriel]

Artificial womb in real world.

No guarantee that your "kid" is actually your kid in the sim, because sim gonna sim.

Very likely to just be some random from an artificial womb that came to term and got plugged in.

 

[Chuck Norris]

Best not to think about it

 

[ProtomanNeo]

Well they show a baby during Morpheus's explanation about the fields. The assumption is he machines take sperm from the father and an egg from mother and grow and grow them.

 

[The Lamonster]

Well they show a baby during Morpheus's explanation about the fields. The assumption is he machines take sperm from the father and an egg from mother and grow and grow them.

This. Or they just take the pure DNA. Same thing.

 

[Jack Scofield]

The Matrix doesn't hold up to scrutiny like this. Another example would be overweight people in The Matrix. Are the machines feeding their real bodies extra food since they eat so much in the simulation? At some point, it almost feels like the machines are still being controlled by human decisions.

 

[Brakke]

Who the heck are Joe and Sarah?

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

They show nurseries in the first film. Rows of artificial wombs extending to the horizon iirc.

 

[Kraftwerk]

Who the heck are Joe and Sarah?

Neo's parents

 

[LookAtMeGo]

The machines grow the humans in a field with data they collect from them in the Matrix. Then they insert them into the gooey pods to grow up.

 

[Brakke]

The Matrix doesn't hold up to scrutiny like this. Another example would be overweight people in The Matrix. Are the machines feeding their real bodies extra food since they eat so much in the simulation? At some point, it almost feels like the machines are still being controlled by human decisions.

Why would the sleepy real body need to reflect weight gain by the brain matrix body? It's not like the robots are worried about people getting freed and then experiencing dismorphia or whatever.

 

[John Kowalski]

Who the heck are Joe and Sarah?

Joe is Nate's math teacher and Sarah is that girl that Rachel was always on about, you know the one from that tire company.

The Matrix doesn't hold up to scrutiny like this. Another example would be overweight people in The Matrix. Are the machines feeding their real bodies extra food since they eat so much in the simulation? At some point, it almost feels like the machines are still being controlled by human decisions.

This is the true answer, the movie simply isn't one given to this kind of detailed historicity. The whole machine thing is mostly a metaphor for "Big Brother" or "Onii San" as it's sometimes called.

 

[Boke1879]

The thought is that the machines make a baby in the real world. Either by insemination or some other means. They have to do this because at some point people in the sim will die. If you die in the sim you die in the real world.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

When in the matrix there's a "Cup" attached to the crotch. So when you have sex in the matrix you nut in real life. They just collect that and get it to the correct woman.

The Matrix doesn't hold up to scrutiny like this. Another example would be overweight people in The Matrix. Are the machines feeding their real bodies extra food since they eat so much in the simulation? At some point, it almost feels like the machines are still being controlled by human decisions.

If they tried to make the matrix a paradise where no one suffered it'd be another disaster. You have to allow for obesity and the diseases they bring as the latter is part of "the varying grotesqueries of human nature". We are imperfect.

 

[lamaroo]

The thought is that the machines make a baby in the real world. Either by insemination or some other means. They have to do this because at some point people in the sim will die. If you die in the sim you die in the real world.

Would it make more sense to just impregnate every woman then?

 

[Boke1879]

The Matrix doesn't hold up to scrutiny like this. Another example would be overweight people in The Matrix. Are the machines feeding their real bodies extra food since they eat so much in the simulation? At some point, it almost feels like the machines are still being controlled by human decisions.

The "real" body doesn't need to be fat though. Remember residual self image? Neo didn't look like that. In the sim he had hair.

Remember. The simulation to the people that are sleeping is their real life. So eating a lot will naturally turn you fat. It has no image on the real world image of you.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

They were grown, apparently. They even showed a scene of those robots harvesting them.

 

[CSJ]

So when you have sex in the matrix you nut in real life. They just collect that and get it to the correct woman.

Oh my god, gives a new meaning to jacking in.

 

[Boke1879]

Would it make more sense to just impregnate every woman then?

Well this is just my assumption. The humans acted as a battery for the machines. Constant energy for them.

I would assume the Machines couldn't overpopulate the matrix or the real world with humans for whatever reason. It's still a program bound by limits.

 

[Killthee]

Artificial womb in real world.

No guarantee that your "kid" is actually your kid in the sim, because sim gonna sim.

Very likely to just be some random from an artificial womb that came to term and got plugged in.

Yup, this.

 

[Guy.brush]

why did the machines not use cows?
Just simulate a green lawn all day long. A lot more battery juice than in a human and no risk for a cow to ascend to the chosen cow.

 

[Dali]

The Matrix doesn't hold up to scrutiny like this. Another example would be overweight people in The Matrix. Are the machines feeding their real bodies extra food since they eat so much in the simulation? At some point, it almost feels like the machines are still being controlled by human decisions.

It's meant to be imperfect. I don't think I'd reject a reality where everyone looked fit but the machines know best.

Also why would the machines have to feel the real body more food? Neo was bald and looked malnourished why he got out. The matrix version doesn't have to look like the real life state.

 

[The Kree]

These kinds of questions miss the point of the movies. This is irrelevant surface level shit.

 

[NeoGold123]

why did the machines not use cows?
Just simulate a green lawn all day long. A lot more battery juice than in a human and no risk for a cow to ascend to the chosen cow.

Or maybe...

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Artificial womb in real world.

No guarantee that your "kid" is actually your kid in the sim, because sim gonna sim.

Very likely to just be some random from an artificial womb that came to term and got plugged in.

Literally what I thought when I read the thread title.

 

[DarthWoo]

The Matrix doesn't hold up to scrutiny like this. Another example would be overweight people in The Matrix. Are the machines feeding their real bodies extra food since they eat so much in the simulation? At some point, it almost feels like the machines are still being controlled by human decisions.

Almost nobody's real world body was going to match their Matrix avatar. Even Neo was of a relatively average build within the Matrix, but once he woke up, you'll recall that he was a scrawny and atrophied husk from having never used his muscles. They had to do some weird hyper-accupuncture stuff to make him mobile in the real world.

 

[MattKeil]

why did the machines not use cows?
Just simulate a green lawn all day long. A lot more battery juice than in a human and no risk for a cow to ascend to the chosen cow.

Because it's implied that the machines couldn't quite bring themselves to exterminate humanity. So if they can't live with us, they find a way to put us somewhere we don't cause problems for them.

It really sucks that the studio made them change that part from using human brains as a mass neural net computing tool. It's a much better hand wave.

 

[Rentahamster]

why did the machines not use cows?
Just simulate a green lawn all day long. A lot more battery juice than in a human and no risk for a cow to ascend to the chosen cow.

Cows aren't the creators of the machines and don't have a complicated historical relationship with them, nor do the machines have any lingering subconscious like desire to try to coexist on some level with cows.

Cows also don't have the neural processing power that the machines could take advantage of in the Matrix.


#headcanon

 

[Kraftwerk]

These kinds of questions miss the point of the movies. This is irrelevant surface level shit.

its a discussion board. I love the movie and have seen it a million times. Was curious so i asked.

 

[Brakke]

The whole machine thing is mostly a metaphor for "Big Brother" or "Onii San" as it's sometimes called.

The Anime-trix was pretty good.

 

[Rentahamster]

Take Joe and Sarah. Real humans who were plugged into the matrix.

Now, inside the matrix, they get married and she becomes pregnant and gives birth to a child inside the simulation. The child grows up, and Morpheus frees that child years later by unplugging him and freeing them from the system. They have a body outside in the real world.

How was that kid born outside the program? Do I just not remember the explanation for this?

They probably got eggs and sperm from the parents in the real world, mixed it together, and then stuck the embryo in one of those incubating bubble farm things.

 

[Boney]

I wonder if they go through the trouble of matching parents from the matrix to the real world so there's no dissonance on the genes.

Neo looks different but it's still him with his facial features. I guess that can just be a visual convenience for the audience and they're just random babies.

And yeah perfect matrix makes the mind reject it so you can't harvest them.

 

[Oersted]

"The human body generates more bio-electricity than a 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTU's of body heat. Combined with a form of fusion, the machines had found all the energy they would ever need. There are fields - endless fields - where human beings are no longer born, we are grown. For the longest time I wouldn't believe it, and then I saw the fields with my own eyes. Watched them liquefy the dead so they could be fed intravenously to the living."

Cue the baby.

why did the machines not use cows?
Just simulate a green lawn all day long. A lot more battery juice than in a human and no risk for a cow to ascend to the chosen cow.

Have you forgotten who chooses the one?

Because it's implied that the machines couldn't quite bring themselves to exterminate humanity. So if they can't live with us, they find a way to put us somewhere we don't cause problems for them.

It really sucks that the studio made them change that part from using human brains as a mass neural net computing tool. It's a much better hand wave.

Works also better with the theme of the Matrix.

 

[GreatestHits]

Quit remembering anything. This is kinda like the matrix. But this is the last time you ask. This is inception x 100,000,000,000

You're asking math questions7
The domain that you're cornering yourself in is like that of a black hole
Keep microdosin' mushrooms and you'll be in help-me-gaf

Edit: I've been banned for less; rock on

 

[McLovin]

The real answer is it's a movie, it doesn't have to make sense.

 

[Yopis]

Best not to think about it

Agent smith is that you?

 

[DiipuSurotu]

The real question is how come no one ever tries to leave the City that's simulated in the Matrix? Even in the Truman Show they had to pull all sorts of crazy stunts to prevent Truman from leaving his island, and that was just one guy. How does the Matrix prevent all these thousands of (millions of?) people from leaving the City?

 

[Operations]

The real question is how come no one ever tries to leave the City that's simulated in the Matrix? Even in the Truman Show they had to pull all sorts of crazy stunts to prevent Truman from leaving his island, and that was just one guy. How does the Matrix prevent all these thousands of (millions of?) people from leaving the City?

Which city? I think it's implied the entire Earth (and reachable surroundings) is simulated.

 

[Stereogatari]

Because if the simulation was perfect it would break

 

[Mr. X]

Simulated sex is a wet dream and they got your kids now.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Which city? I think it's implied the entire Earth (and reachable surroundings) is simulated.

Mega City. According to the creators (and the video games) the Matrix simulates only one city. It's also why the highway is infinite in the second film; they can't leave it.

 

[L Thammy]

They had robots that smacked them together until a baby happened.

 

[Pandaman]

why did the machines not use cows?
Just simulate a green lawn all day long. A lot more battery juice than in a human and no risk for a cow to ascend to the chosen cow.

Because the battery thing is Morpheus's opinion and never stated as fact by an actual machine. The matrix exists because the machines didn't want to genocide their creators but couldn't trust humans to be peaceful in the real world

 

[Ronin Ray]

Mega City. According to the creators (and the video games) the Matrix simulates only one city. It's also why the highway is infinite in the second film; they can't leave it.

I never heard this and it's interesting but Wikipedia says that they created large parts of the earth and meaga city is just where the movies takes place so I'm sure you can leave. They may have just retconned it after the fact because they realized how dumb it was

 

[Genryu]

They had robots that smacked them together until a baby happened.

 

[rekameohs]

Why didn't the robots just use cows for power?

why did the machines not use cows?
Just simulate a green lawn all day long. A lot more battery juice than in a human and no risk for a cow to ascend to the chosen cow.

Yuuuup.

I guess the machines still had a little soft spot for us! 😊

 

[Dryk]

When in the matrix there's a "Cup" attached to the crotch. So when you have sex in the matrix you nut in real life. They just collect that and get it to the correct woman.

It's the ultimate wet dream