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Tzeentch said:
Wait, wasn't there some big deal made about BC2 PC having prone and the console versions not?
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Hubris and Bullshit: Modern Warfare 2 PC will not allow dedicated servers.
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Wait, wasn't there some big deal made about BC2 PC having prone and the console versions not?
Enosh
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you need to keep up with the latest newsZefah said:
the lead developer said there won't be prone on any SKU of BC2 and yes that includes the PC
so you boycotting this one too now? :lol
http://twitter.com/locust9/status/5213965953
oh and did BC1 have leaning? Beacose if BC2 console version doesn't have it, I would be very suprised if the PC version would
Crescendo170
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No, still just MW2.Enosh said:
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Enosh said:
I had no plans of getting BC2 in the first place unless it turned out to be some wildly awesome game. I'm not necessarily "boycotting" Modern Warfare 2 either. I am certainly not going to buy it in its current state, but if they were to go back on all of this crap and give the PC version a proper treatment then I would definitely be interested in picking it up.
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rhfb said:
I think it is mostly just the people who are fans of the console game that are taking offense that their version of the game is being equated to worthless shit.
Zefah said:
Agreed, a boycott is an action taken against a company for its stances/operations. It's products can be of equal or even superior value of its competitors.
In my opinion at this point MW2 is simply an inferior product and does not warrant a sale regardless of my feelings for Activision/IW. Makes it much easier for me to ignore hype release and let age fade it into obscurity.
BF and Dice will fall into the same category should they continue to follow suit.
Casual gamer here, I play some Wii with the kids and play Cod PC with my friends
every monday night, we have done so for the last 5 years since MOHAA.
I have never completed the single player part (hardly the first level)
on any the previous versions, played a lot multiplayer though.
I have bought Cod every time for it's multiplayer game.
This will be the first cod game for PC by IW that I wont buy.
every monday night, we have done so for the last 5 years since MOHAA.
I have never completed the single player part (hardly the first level)
on any the previous versions, played a lot multiplayer though.
I have bought Cod every time for it's multiplayer game.
This will be the first cod game for PC by IW that I wont buy.
Cheeto said:
Even this stuff wouldn't bother me so much if I can join a dedicated server that can turn the options off.
IW should have just done a 'Play now!' option with all the noob friendly accessibility.
They could have done both and had an opportunity to really expand the PC userbase. Perhaps a new user would have started on the 'Play now!" option, and as he/she got better at the game moved on to the dedicated server selection.
Also, the fact that nearly 15K dedicated servers are still running for MW1 definitely does not help IW's decision.
The game is going to sell millions on consoles, whatever, I really don't care if it does. I'm not against console gaming, hell, I love my PS3 and the 360 is ok too. I just hate a company with a great pc heritage is going out of there way to diminish the value of the PC version.
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I'm gonna preorder the fuck out of that game so hard, IW will be jizzing DLC at me in joy, and it'll be a mean, but not lean rape orgy with thrusts 100ms delayedFugu said:
I think I've got something in my eye. Oh look it's A NUCLEAR BOMB
Let me just kill these innocent civilians real quick
PedroLumpy
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UltimaPooh said:
Such contempt when we're trying to help you people.
legend166 said:
Yeah, I know, I had some problems modding Cod2 so that the teams stayed intact during map-switches, you know we are casual gamers so some of us couldn't choose the correct team at start of new map, which resulted in a couple of map-restarts before everyone where on the correct team.
But I can't do that anymore can I !! arggh..
It's pretty well-established that we're not going to get any help from the press on this one (except perhaps ars technica). It's easy to make fun of people who object to anything, so the witless will just exploit that for easy laughs for people who don't know what they're talking about.
sflufan said:
I assumed it would be a maximum of 16 players on the PC, but now I hear it's 18 I'm going to buy it on Steam right now. :lol
Fuck all the ignorant console journalists who have acted like having the maximum player size cut more than in half between CoD 4 and MW2 is no big deal.
Roude Leiw
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9v9 what a joke :lol
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X26 said:
i always played cod4 on full servers, because i like it. at least they should give the players the choice. of course they say its because of balancing issues etc, but obviously it is because of no dedicated servers.
i seriously think mw2 will sell less on pc than mw1. all the hardcore players will stick to mw1 and a lot will pirate mw2 for the singleplayer.
I have no problem with them wanting to make it easier for new players to get into online games on the PC but honestly the core group of gamers that would choose the PC version of MW2 know how to use a server browser to get into a match.
They should have made the matchmaking IN ADDITION to dedicated servers, that way everyone is happy. I still play CS:Source ONLY because of dedicated servers.
A few years ago I found a server with a set of rules that encouraged fun, clean gameplay and teamwork. I bookmarked that server and started to make friends. It has been 6 years since that happened and I still play the game to this day with the same group of people. I go to yearly LAN party's in another state.
I'm part of their "clan" now and have been for a few years. It is invite only and I was invited into the group in person at my first LAN. We have 75+ clan members. The community has grown to over 260 regular players and we've had over 10 seasons of our own league play that is invite only.
These guys are like a family to me, I've seen some members get married and now have kids. NONE of this would be possible without dedicated servers. This is why I will never buy another Infinity Ward game ever again for PC. Just go ahead and stop making PC versions from now on if you want to take away all the fan control from online play. You simply cannot foster this kind of community without Dedicated Servers. Oh yeah and we have an active COD 4 server and play that game at our LAN parties too. Not one of our members is buying MW2.
They should have made the matchmaking IN ADDITION to dedicated servers, that way everyone is happy. I still play CS:Source ONLY because of dedicated servers.
A few years ago I found a server with a set of rules that encouraged fun, clean gameplay and teamwork. I bookmarked that server and started to make friends. It has been 6 years since that happened and I still play the game to this day with the same group of people. I go to yearly LAN party's in another state.
I'm part of their "clan" now and have been for a few years. It is invite only and I was invited into the group in person at my first LAN. We have 75+ clan members. The community has grown to over 260 regular players and we've had over 10 seasons of our own league play that is invite only.
These guys are like a family to me, I've seen some members get married and now have kids. NONE of this would be possible without dedicated servers. This is why I will never buy another Infinity Ward game ever again for PC. Just go ahead and stop making PC versions from now on if you want to take away all the fan control from online play. You simply cannot foster this kind of community without Dedicated Servers. Oh yeah and we have an active COD 4 server and play that game at our LAN parties too. Not one of our members is buying MW2.
X26 said:
Plus, in the context of matchmaking, 9v9 being the max makes sense due to people not wanting crowding on their maps. I could see people complaining about 9v9 max if they allowed custom servers/custom maps though.
Still no excuse for the rest of the BS. 100ms ping my ass.
ahoyhoy said:
Okay, this should seem pretty straightforward. With dedicated servers, you can have 9v9 servers just like you do with P2P ones.
Except, with dedicated servers, you can also have 16v16 matches, or 10v10, or 12v12, or what have you.
What possible downside is there? Yes, 16v16 matches tend to be very fast paced. Some people like that. If you don't like that... there are dedicated 9v9 servers. Or 6v6. Take your pick.
How is having the option bad? And why isn't okay for some people to prefer larger games, a la 16v16?
Frostburn said:
This.
I honestly think a lot of people over look the benefit of dedicated server. It isn't just "Fuck yes, 5 ping", there are some amazing communities who have special game nights, map testing(kiss that goodbye) and just regular stupid fucking fun(TF2, I'm looking at you) that just won't be had with lack of dedicated servers.
Unknown One
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That's one of the big reason console people buys it I guess. I'm a console person that's not buying it though.Cheeto said:
Haunted
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I just saw that faceless actually explained this quite nicely.Enosh said:
And this was said in a Q&A session with their fanbase. They are actually trying to convince the community that those are features worthy to be mentioned, setting the PC version apart from its console counterparts.faceless said:
It's fucking disgusting.
Haunted
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You think this is an acceptable answer to the question whether the PC version (disregarding IW.net) is a port of the console versions or not?Enosh said:
You accept his answer that it's obviously not a console port because the PC version of MW2 has mouse support and graphics settings? They're trying to take their fans for fools instead of answering the question honestly and it's fucking insulting.
