Iva Demilcol
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Good to know you got so salty about my post you felt the need to say that.
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I am finding Xenoblade extremely tedious and repetitive
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Good to know you got so salty about my post you felt the need to say that.
Tarextherex
Banned
But you don't need to grind in that game
The only quests you need to do are the ones with actual names rather than generic quest name given by a nameless npc with a number next to it. The worlds are so big that you can spend an obscene amount of time on those quests compared to simply following the story. Like over half the content of the game are things you can miss if you rush through it, I don't get the restriction complaint.
Tbh the battle system is actually broken but that mostly matters for beating the post game bosses, basically if you want to do this you'll need a lot of grinding and crafting. Other than that you get xp/rewards for absolutely anything in that game so that's how it sort of negates the overall repetitive gameplay. The main appeal of the game is that it's a good old jrpg with an epic story but they actually bothered to make a fully realized 3D world with lots of sidequests unlike most other jrpgs of that time. Just don't force yourself do to tedious stuff, go through the story, go out of your way a bit if the location seems interesting
The only quests you need to do are the ones with actual names rather than generic quest name given by a nameless npc with a number next to it. The worlds are so big that you can spend an obscene amount of time on those quests compared to simply following the story. Like over half the content of the game are things you can miss if you rush through it, I don't get the restriction complaint.
Tbh the battle system is actually broken but that mostly matters for beating the post game bosses, basically if you want to do this you'll need a lot of grinding and crafting. Other than that you get xp/rewards for absolutely anything in that game so that's how it sort of negates the overall repetitive gameplay. The main appeal of the game is that it's a good old jrpg with an epic story but they actually bothered to make a fully realized 3D world with lots of sidequests unlike most other jrpgs of that time. Just don't force yourself do to tedious stuff, go through the story, go out of your way a bit if the location seems interesting
This. What? You can go do whatever you want once you're about 3 hours into the game.
QuackkAttack
Member
Wait a second...you predicted that a villainous god would be the big bad in Persona 5? Like every Persona game?! You prophet!
On topic: Xenoblade is a really good game that didn't catch on for me until about midway through. Completely worth the ride.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Im gonna back you up on this, I experienced the same, there is a grind, mostly in the beginning.
matrix-cat
Member
I've picked this game up again recently, after playing about 35 hours back when it came out on 3DS and putting it down when Witcher 3 came out. Obviously not the best way to appreciate a game, but I at least feel like I'm getting back into the swing of things.
I don't know if I'm going to stick with it to the end, but I'll see how I go. Right now I'm just coasting along through a lot of story stuff, but I feel like if I hit a wall with a really hard bossfight or something I could drop it. The combat is that weird balance where if everything's going well I feel fine, but when things start to tip the other way I end up dying really quickly and not knowing why or what I could have done differently. The feedback is pretty poor, and the UI is kind of a mess on the tiny 3DS screen. Sometimes the 'switch target' buttons just don't do anything, and not having any direct control over my other party members makes me feel like I just have to hope for the best sometimes.
The Affinity stuff, skill links and inventory management/gem-equipping are basically inscrutable to someone with only vague memories of being tutorialised about them two years ago, too
I don't know if I'm going to stick with it to the end, but I'll see how I go. Right now I'm just coasting along through a lot of story stuff, but I feel like if I hit a wall with a really hard bossfight or something I could drop it. The combat is that weird balance where if everything's going well I feel fine, but when things start to tip the other way I end up dying really quickly and not knowing why or what I could have done differently. The feedback is pretty poor, and the UI is kind of a mess on the tiny 3DS screen. Sometimes the 'switch target' buttons just don't do anything, and not having any direct control over my other party members makes me feel like I just have to hope for the best sometimes.
The Affinity stuff, skill links and inventory management/gem-equipping are basically inscrutable to someone with only vague memories of being tutorialised about them two years ago, too
I'm gonna make a JRPG where the surprising twist is that the villain isn't a god or someone who wants to become a god.
Assuming you are talking about Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, just avoid the sidequests entirely. Most of them aren't worth the effort and it's not worth doing them all to find the gems in the rough.
You might actually prefer Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Wii U. It's an actual open world ga!e where the exploration and traversal and very fun. I played it like I played Crackdown, just having a fun time jumping all over there massive levels just for the fun of it. I love that game. Just know that the music in X is ~trash~
Gotdatmoney
Member
The moat fun part of XC's combat is mixing and matching gem abilities, arts and character combos to test out interesting play styles. A lot of the AI complaints in that game I find weird given if you are building your party meter quickly you get chain attacks in which you get direct control over the most crucial damage output mechanic in the game. Unless you really really need to heal or you have Melia in your party the AI is ostly fine. You can is so mix and match on abilities and playstyles you will never get AI to do exactly what you want.
The last third of the story is stupid as fuck. People saying ignore the nameless NPCs and only do the named stuff forget that you have to level up the affinity of the region you are in to get more named quests which makes doing the nameless stuff necessary. There are some really good named quests especially in the back half of the game. XCX has better side quest stuff. Better written. More varried, gets to the point quicker. Exploration is good in XC though it's better in X though these games would benefit to an extent from not having all equipment be from drops.
If you aren't constantly playing around with your party you will def find this game boring. but when you get those massive ass chain attacks going and start coming up with cool engagement strategies based off of your currrent team and gems the game gets good. You do need to upgrade colony 6 to level 2 and get the portable gem making machine. Gem crafting is key.
The last third of the story is stupid as fuck. People saying ignore the nameless NPCs and only do the named stuff forget that you have to level up the affinity of the region you are in to get more named quests which makes doing the nameless stuff necessary. There are some really good named quests especially in the back half of the game. XCX has better side quest stuff. Better written. More varried, gets to the point quicker. Exploration is good in XC though it's better in X though these games would benefit to an extent from not having all equipment be from drops.
If you aren't constantly playing around with your party you will def find this game boring. but when you get those massive ass chain attacks going and start coming up with cool engagement strategies based off of your currrent team and gems the game gets good. You do need to upgrade colony 6 to level 2 and get the portable gem making machine. Gem crafting is key.
Xenoblade is a lot more enjoyable when you realize that there's no reason for all the tedious checklist sidequests the NPCs give you. I accepted all of them and forgot about them. If I happened to complete one of them, cool, free EXP. If I didn't feel like progressing the story I explored the huge world and fought super bosses. There's a lot of cool little scenic views and hidden crannies to find, and you get experience for finding them.
Xenoblade has a lot of issues that are ignored because people liked the story. Funny enough X fixed some of them but people tried to play it in the same way as Xenoblade and complain to this day about it. I think Xenoblade X should have been called anything but Xenoblade for the people who can't see beyond a name.
But if you look beyond the story Xenoblade is rather average. Still the story makes it very worth to play.
But if you look beyond the story Xenoblade is rather average. Still the story makes it very worth to play.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
- Play as other characters, not just Shulk.
- Remove Sharla from your team as soon as you get four characters
- Accept every sidequest; don't go out of your way to complete any of them
- For most characters, you want less weight instead of higher defense. Dodge tanking is way better than just tanking, and it helps your ability to land hits as well
- Don't forget the Skill Trees and Skill Tree Linking
- Spear Break + Starlight Kick
- If you have Melia in your party, you have to be the one controlling her. Her AI is garbage
- Don't bother forging gems until you have level 3 crystals. The gains aren't worth the time.
- Feel the flow of battle
- If you have to grind, you're playing the game wrong. Change your gear, Arts, skills, and/or party instead. No really, if you're grinding, you're doing something wrong.
- You mustn't be careless.
Have fun!
- Remove Sharla from your team as soon as you get four characters
- Accept every sidequest; don't go out of your way to complete any of them
- For most characters, you want less weight instead of higher defense. Dodge tanking is way better than just tanking, and it helps your ability to land hits as well
- Don't forget the Skill Trees and Skill Tree Linking
- Spear Break + Starlight Kick
- If you have Melia in your party, you have to be the one controlling her. Her AI is garbage
- Don't bother forging gems until you have level 3 crystals. The gains aren't worth the time.
- Feel the flow of battle
- If you have to grind, you're playing the game wrong. Change your gear, Arts, skills, and/or party instead. No really, if you're grinding, you're doing something wrong.
- You mustn't be careless.
Have fun!
I was wondering if anyone had played this (and completed it) on 3DS only, and if they felt that was a worthwhile experience? I don't have a Wii (or WiiU) so 3DS would be the only route for me. Is it still good on the platform?
Also, if I do jump in, won't ignoring side quests and just concentrating on the story and exploration hinder my levelling, or is it not one of those kinds of RPG where that matters?
Also, if I do jump in, won't ignoring side quests and just concentrating on the story and exploration hinder my levelling, or is it not one of those kinds of RPG where that matters?
Copper
Member
I think what made XCX worse for me was the fact the game felt TOO massive. Like it threw way to many mechanics at you at once and it became overwhelming. I spent probably a good 5-8 hours trying to figure out how things work..
XC on the other hand gradually introduced to you mechanics and opened the world up. I much preferred the set characters and story in the first one as well which is why I'm glad XC2 seems to also be going that route.
best way to experience it is on Dolphin emulator with the HD texture pack imo