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I bought a new PSP! So where are all these great RPGs people are talking about?
- Thread starter Danny Dudekisser
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I'd say the PSP SO1 remake is the best game in the series. It's kinda short but the pacing is good and they fixed a lot of stuff that was wrong with the original version. The SO2 port is just SO2 with a new character and an added event or two.SalsaShark said:Whats the word on the Star Ocean titles?
Might just buy the two in advance..
Whole series has been spoiled to me but oh well
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah, I think so. I enjoyed it before I played RM2. If we're talking about Tales titles in general, though--I'd recommend Rebirth over it.Ken said:
Tales stories aren't always special, but RM's narrative has an even thinner story. It's more of a dungeon crawler with a character that you create. Some of the characters and Tales characters don't really have character development (and I'm guessing that it's because the game is fanservice and Namco assumes that you've played all the previous games already). Of course, there can be a case where the NA player won't know who some of these characters are (Phantasia, Rebirth, etc).
Skits are great as usual. Some are voiced while others are not. Dialogue is written fine as well. Your character is a silent protagonist and other people do the talking for him/her. There aren't a lot of starting classes: warrior, mage, priest and thief.
Tales characters usually appear as cameo battles. at all. But they can also help you out in fulfilling guild quests (wrt fighting in your party). They'll sometimes reject your invitation to join the party, though (this doesn't happen in RM2). If you do more guild quests, they'll end up changing their mind about it, A lot of the VAs for some of the characters got replaced (you'll notice this with Raine and Lloyd). After finishing quests, your party disbands after every one.
I've seen comparisons to Dissidia before, but it doesn't play like Dissidia (I'd say Tales of VS is more like Dissidia). It's more of a dungeon crawler to me, not a fighter. It's like a single-player dungeon crawler MMO. It's not a bad game... it's just that RM2 made a lot of improvements that renders RM1 null and void, imo. If you're a fan of the Tales series, you could get it.
The characters include:
-Chester Burklight (Tales of Phantasia)
-Arche Klein (Tales of Phantasia)
-Stahn Aileron (Tales of Destiny)
-Rutee Katrea (Tales of Destiny)
-Leon Magnus (Tales of Destiny)
-Reid Hershel (Tales of Eternia)
-Lloyd Irving (Symphonia)
-Raine Sage (Symphonia)
-Kratos Aurion (Symphonia)
-Genis Sage (Symphonia)
-Eugene Gallardo (Rebirth)
-Luke fon Fabre (Abyss)
-Tear Grants (Abyss)
-Senel Coolidge (Legendia)
(Non-playables are: Garr (Destiny), Philia (Destiny), Nanaly (Destiny 2), Harold (Destiny 2) and Annie (Rebirth).)
RM2 added way more characters from these games, Innocence characters, Tempest characters, and Vesperia characters. RM3 added more characters from the games from RM1 and RM2, Hearts characters, Knight of Rata--Dawn of the New World characters, RM1 characters, RM2 characters, and Graces characters.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
hmm... finished FFIV. Was great (which I already knew from playing it several times before.)
Now I have to decide between Ys Seven and Trails in the Sky.
WHAT DO I DO?!
Now I have to decide between Ys Seven and Trails in the Sky.
WHAT DO I DO?!
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Chacranajxy said:
Are you in the mood for fast or slow? If fast, Ys Seven. If slow, Trails.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Trails is also significantly longer, if that makes a difference. I haven't played Ys Seven yet, but it's 20 or so hours from what I've heard. Trails can be 60+ easily if you do all the guild quests and everything.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
hosannainexcelsis said:
Hmm well FFIV was turn based, so something speedy would be nice. Which game has the better soundtrack? I wanna rock out.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Trails is longer and has a slower battle system. Ys Seven is all ARPG.Chacranajxy said:
Ys Seven has the "more rockin' out" soundtrack, imo.
Innocent Primeval Breaker (Ys Seven)
Crossing Rage (Ys Seven)
An Assault (Ys Seven)
Sophisticated Fight (Trails in the Sky)
Those who Protected Their Greatest Treasure (Trails in the Sky)
Challenger Invited
I see you didn't express interest in the FFIV Interlude (I saw it was needless as well) or The After Years (for some reason I'm enjoying it more than WiiWare, but yeah... you don't have to bother with it).
What'd you think of the redone backgrounds and sprites?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Dark Schala said:
The redone graphics were actually exactly what I wanted. They basically just retooled the assets they already had, for the most part, so it still felt like the original game. I like that. I didn't feel like I was playing something foreign - this was FFIV as I know and love it. The new backgrounds and spell effects that they added in were great. The spells were pretty, and the backgrounds in places like the last dungeon added that extra 10% of panache that the GBA game maybe could've used.
What I was probably the most impressed by was the redone soundtrack, though. I was a bit worried at first, because arranged soundtracks tend to be worse than the original versions, but they knocked it out of the park here. They didn't redo the music so much as they provided better instrumentation. The difference is kinda subtle, but I feel like this is how the music would have sounded had the technology been available when the game was first released. I'm a bit of a game music geek (back when 1up had their Chiptuned blog, I wrote a few things about obscurities like the Legaia 2 OST, if that helps my street cred), so I really appreciate a soundtrack that's as well-done as this was.
I basically feel like I've gotten the impossible from Square: A remake that provides me with exactly -- EXACTLY -- what I wanted. And playing it on a PSP that's actually not horrible to use? Perfection.
Uh, so yeah. I'll probably go with Ys Seven. Thanks for the soundtrack links -- I love me some PC Engine-era rock. And I was pleasantly surprised by the Trails songs... the jazzy battle theme makes me wanna break that game out right now, but alas! I have already committed to Ys. If it's good, I'll nab Oath in Felgana and maybe Chronicles.
The Last Wizard
Member
I'm thinking about picking up a few RPGs, so far I'm thinking radiant historia, rune factory, trails in the sky, and a y's game but I don't know which so should i start at a specific y's title or am I free to jump in wherever?
archnemesis
Member
I'm not a Ys expert, but I suggest you start with Ys I & II Chronicles for the PSP. None of the games in the series are story heavy, but it might be good to start out with the simpler battle system.NightHawk17 said:
Ys 3 or 7 is great starting points. Chronicles is very different, old school Ys. Meaning no attack buttons and little direction given. If you want more Rpg elements get 7. Want more fast paced dungeon crawling with some good challenge, get 3. Cannot go wrong with either.NightHawk17 said:
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It fits the slower pace of the game, but yeah, I don't really like the song either. Fortunately most typical battles don't take long.NIN90 said:
As for which Ys game to start with, it's a tough call. You can't go wrong with Oath and Seven. Chronicles makes things difficult, because it's really different and it's a love it/hate it game to begin with. Check out some videos, if it looks fun to you go for it first, otherwise it might be hard to go back to after playing Oath/Seven.
SpaceDrake
Member
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
I'll recommend:
-Ys Seven
-Ys Oath in Felghana
-Trails in the Sky
-Persona 3 Portable. If you think it might appeal to you.
Oh and this is one of my favourites from Ys Seven's OST once it gets going.
Isolated Island Consigned to Oblivion
-Ys Seven
-Ys Oath in Felghana
-Trails in the Sky
-Persona 3 Portable. If you think it might appeal to you.
Oh and this is one of my favourites from Ys Seven's OST once it gets going.
Isolated Island Consigned to Oblivion
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Dark Schala said:
You could add these for Sora no Kiseki:
Whereabouts of Light
I Feel Like I Could Dance With The Wind
Also OP, are you considering PSone classics? If so, you should get:
- Suikoden
- Grandia
- FFVII-FFIX
- Xenogears
- Parasite Eve
- Wild ARMs
- Alundra
While Star Ocean 2 does take you from sci-fi and throw you into 'generic fantasy', if you want to call it that, without spoiling much, it brings you into a sort of mix of the two eventually, though it still is mostly fantasy.
I'm just biased though because it was my favorite PSX RPG ever. Going to have to get the PSP version when I finally get a PSP (After E3? Pricedrop? Maybe? Please!?).
I'm just biased though because it was my favorite PSX RPG ever. Going to have to get the PSP version when I finally get a PSP (After E3? Pricedrop? Maybe? Please!?).
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I wanted to keep that one a hidden gem.SpaceDrake said:
KAL2006 said:
I'm not sure if these impressions are what you're looking for, narrative-wise. I personally liked it. But check out some gameplay footage too to see if you'll like it. It isn't universally considered as "wonderful", and I'm not sure if I could put it on the same level as Radiant Historia. But both games were localized by Atlus.
That's exactly how I'm feeling about the look as well. If I could get a FFVI or FFV remake done in this style, I'll gladly accept it. And I believe the arranged music was the same as the FFIV DS music... but it sounds slightly better here.
I miss the old sound effect for Bio, though.
NeededSleep
Member
NIN90 said:
I really do have to agree. Each fight i would try and kill things as fast as i could just so i wouldn't have to hear any battle theme. So every character i built up to do good hard aoe dmg.
Also Lunar for psp... Good game but... but oh god damn... Why did they have to give Alex too small of spandex... His junk bounce while in combat on his normal breathing. His open stance doesn't help it the situation.
cannot unsee. :'(
Augemitbutter
Member
NIN90 said:
might be a slow burner, but i've enjoyed it til the end of the game.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
There are audio cues? I only ever looked at the meat change color to know when it's done. One change is rare steak, two changes is well done steak, three changes it's burnt. The lack of a second analog stick did hurt the game a little (once you learn how it works you can do ok without the claw, by recentering) but the actual camera system isn't bad.TheSeks said:
Alextended said:
The cooking music thing is the audio cue.
See, but the thing is: That two change thing is QUICK. You can't notice it's "well done" in MH1 without burning it as soon as you press "X" when you realize it's well done. Over and over and over. To the point of just giving up in frustration. Screw that, it isn't worth the hassle.
PumpkinPie
Banned
InsertNameHere said:
The PSP version sucks IMO, they added whole new hammy voice overs and generic anime cut scenes, both of which were totally unnecessary. They took one of my favourite PSX games and turned it into a shitty 'Tales Of...' game.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
And from what I hear, the PSP version of Lunar is even slower than the PS1 game was... how in the hell did they manage that?
NeededSleep
Member
Ken said:
CGS has some long load times for battles. But overall it was a decent rpg.
Hexyz force i got through psn, it has 2 stories to play through, i only played through one and i have little interest of going through the second story. It was a ok game, just very bland story imo.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Oh jeez, guys. I started Ys Seven and I'm like four hours in, and it's fuckin' rad. To think I had no intention of ever playing this game until like a week ago... the soundtrack is pretty amazing stuff, as well. Storyline is about what I'd expect. It's typical RPG stuff, but at least the characters are likable, and there's not a whole hell of a lot of story to trudge through so it never becomes a problem.
So things are pretty great so far.
So things are pretty great so far.
The Last Wizard
Member
popo was great, I remember playing it when I got my first psp over christmas break in 2005 i think. Couldn't put it down. Just when you thought the story would finish it kept going.Buttons said:I came in here to post a few suggestions but it seems they have all been covered.
I am really happy to see all the love for PoPoLoCrois. Was my first PSP RPG and still one of my favourite games to date.
I generally dislike srpgs but it's one of the few I actually like.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You guys are tempting me to import a Japanese copy of PoPoLoCrois. XD
Unfortunately, I can't find any copies cheap here in Canada. (
Unfortunately, I can't find any copies cheap here in Canada. (
Big Papa Husker
Member
I believe Gamestop sells it used for under $5.Zwei said:That does it - you guys have totally convinced me to buy Popolocrois next week.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I just started it a while ago as well. Really liking it, but so far Oath in Felghana is solidly ahead of it.Chacranajxy said:
After this I'll just be left with Ark of Napishtim, but apparently the PSP version is terrible. What to do...
The Last Wizard
Member
Do it man, the cast is great and lovable, the world beautiful and the story is cute and touching. Definitely one of the best psp RPGs.Dark Schala said:
I hope the ps vita becomes a rpg powerhouse like the psp
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Apparently it is, though some have argued that it's for worse, not for better. They apparently combined both PoPoLoCrois games into one, but cut some of both games' content (ie: including some entire dungeons and towns, major story scenes, some moments of character development, cutscenes, etc). But it has animated cutscenes from the same people who did the PoPoLoCrois cartoon.Aeana said:
Apparently there are differences between the PSP and PS1 intros:
In both games, Pietoro celebrates his birthday, then follows his father into a tower to discover his mother laying in bed, under a spell. In the PS1 version, Pietoro's quest is to recover his father's crown, stolen by the Gami Gami Devil. In the PSP version, Pietoro's quest is to find a way to awaken his mom, whom he'd thought dead. So there is no castle attack early on, there's no mention of Gami Gami Devil at first, and Pietoro initially heads off on his own in the PSP version.
I keep hearing the battle system is a bit different. I heard they took out the GUTS meter.
Perhaps the next time I get paid, then.NightHawk17 said:
Despite it being a haven for mainly RPG ports, I still like the PSP output this generation. I could just laze around and play through a game that I know like the back of my hand like Suikoden I+II or something. When I was a kid, I had always wanted to take Final Fantasy IV or Suikoden with me and now I can!
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
chaosblade said:
Oh man, so Oath of Felghana is even better? That's exciting. I'd never played an Ys game up until now, despite that it's the sort of thing that appeals to me... and now I feel a bit silly for waiting so long.
Dark Schala said:
Sigh... yeah, Suikoden I & II. Thanks for that one, Sony. It'd be neato if Konami surprise announced that at E3, but it came out like 5 years ago so...
I just think it's kind of hilarious how Sony positioned the PSP as the biggest piece of shit in the world. It has watered down console ports, a bunch of first party shit that's not fun, and it has all these media functions I don't goddamn want. And they marketed the shit out of it with lame campaigns where they emphasized those very problems and pretended like they were a good thing. It's only now that the system has all these RPGs and stuff that Sony was breaking their necks to distance themselves from that the PSP is any good. So I'm honestly not looking forward to the NGP at all for at least a few years, because I know it's going to be more of the same shit.
SpaceDrake
Member
Chacranajxy said:
Well, keep in mind that Oath doesn't have the party mechanic, that's exclusive to SEVEN currently; Oath is a bit more like a Zelda game in that Adol eventually picks up a huge variety of abilities all for himself. And also remember that I&II play nothing like either game; I would honestly try to rent that one before buying it, if you can. It's hard to recommend without a demo to see if a person can click with the gameplay.