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I can't get over how bad Metal Gear Solid is
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SoulUnison
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The often cheesy, frequently overly-expository style of MGS dialog is one of the more beloved trappings of the series.
But, more than that, I find it funny that you're mocking writing when you make statements like that and expect there to be any actual weight behind them.
Truly no one can formidably command the written word unless they know what a boob feels like, right?
What did I just read. Please say that was an MGS quote edited that I somehow forgot or something.
Holy shit, Blacklist was not pure stealth. Play Chaos Theory then get back to us on your extensive experience with the genre.
are you really trying to compare a ps1 game to modern stealth games?
hurricanes
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1. I think the stealth is great. You can of course shoot everyone but there are no kill no alert runs out there for you to watch. So gut gud is valid here.
2. It's neither bad nor good... This could be controversial but keep in mind that the series is OLLLLD.
3. A controversial topic as well, but I agree with you. It's BAD for at least 90% of the game.
4.No comment.
5.You must have not play many games...
*Note that I didn't play every game in the series.
*Your body needs to be ready, MGS fanboys/girls are notorious. (run)
2. It's neither bad nor good... This could be controversial but keep in mind that the series is OLLLLD.
3. A controversial topic as well, but I agree with you. It's BAD for at least 90% of the game.
4.No comment.
5.You must have not play many games...
*Note that I didn't play every game in the series.
*Your body needs to be ready, MGS fanboys/girls are notorious. (run)
Uh.
These aren't stealth games you're listing. Blacklist can be played as an action stealth game, but the reason so many people mind conviction/blacklist is they aren't really pure stealth games.
hammertomb
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This guy must be on team B.
I loved Blacklist, but it wasn't pure stealth.
Chaos Theory is the best in that regard for Splinter Cell, and MGS3 is second as far as pure stealth gameplay.
Plus you are comparing an almost 20 year old game that kind of invented 3rd person stealth with games released in the last 5 years.
Ingueferroque
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Just play Ground Zeroes. Now.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Fucking weird isn't it?
Blacklist as pure stealth? Whhooooo boy, you got some splainin' to do!
FutureZombie
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When is the last time you people have played MGS? I literally just finished it tonight. I went in with an open mind (afterall, I committed to $30 for the Legacy Collection) and I was extremely disappointed.
As for my comment about the writing being done by a 15 year old virgin, I am talking about the discussions of love in the game, as well as how the characters fell in love with people they didn't even know. Am I supposed to laugh at Otacon's love for Sniper Wolf? It didn't seem that way at the end of the game, but it was really pathetic.
As for my comment about the writing being done by a 15 year old virgin, I am talking about the discussions of love in the game, as well as how the characters fell in love with people they didn't even know. Am I supposed to laugh at Otacon's love for Sniper Wolf? It didn't seem that way at the end of the game, but it was really pathetic.
Vinterbird
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I totally agree that the cheesy and weird story/dialogue is a part of the MGS soul so to say, but I think it's fair to critique it since it is weird/bad and there is a ton of it. It's something people either love or hate. Personally I think Kojima and the other writers have the right idea but really need an editor or someone to take it from Japanese to English in a better way then what has previously happened with the series.
Strangelove77
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absolutely do not play the rest of the series if that's how you felt about MGS1.
People will try to convince you that 3 is better, but it builds off the first game. It's too similar. Just skip the series altogether.
People will try to convince you that 3 is better, but it builds off the first game. It's too similar. Just skip the series altogether.
Dimitri LH
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Excuse my ignorance, I plan to get into the series eventually as I respect what it is, (Barely played the spin off Metal Gear Acid and loved it) but whats wrong with twin snakes?
Alex_Mexico
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Blacklist is actually a really great stealth game. You can ghost the whole thing.
FutureZombie
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I do appreciate some of the things the game tried to do. I'm sure Psycho Mantis was incredible in 1998. And the graphics stand up well. But the game was an absolute chore to finish.
Do you really think the game is beloved just because of nostalgia glasses?
Because that's what you're implying. And that's wrong. MGS is still worth playing today.
The controls are clunky though yes, but that's expected with it's age.
You can, which is great, but the game makes it hard at points due to its design. I would probably rank Blacklist 3rd as a great stealth game, but only when you play pure ghost.
packy34
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I play it at least a few times a year. It's literally why I still play games. If it didn't come along when it did I would've left this hobby.
pillowtalk
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I disagree with the title, but I sorta agree with some of the things that's listed.
Anyway, MGS3 fo life.
Anyway, MGS3 fo life.
Search for a thread on the subject, this will just derail the thread.
Here I will help you: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253847
Those games wouldn't even exist without MGS.
And Arkham? Mentioned in a series of sentences about stealth games?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Don't ignore me. Finish MGS3 or I'll call humane society and make sure they take your copy of MGS collection.
I believe he means in terms of stealth mechanics. Not that the game is a pure stealth game.
are you trying to one-up the OP or something
super-famicom
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I disagree with you, OP. But I will give you the controls being kinda bad. Ground Zeroes fixed it, though.
GameAddict411
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You can criticise a game all you want, but when you base your argument on empty insults to one of the most revolutionary games in the gaming industry, you damn will should expect the back lash to hit hard.
it was terrible then, too.
Dance Inferno
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Blacklist can be played as a pure stealth game as well. In fact, it is probably one of, if not the best, stealth game that I have played. And I say this as a huge fan of Metal Gear Solid.
Having said that, OP your opinion is incorrect.
SuicidalSteve
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Oh shit son that's hilarious!
SolidusDave
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Twin Snakes is an abomination and to suggest it over the original is ridiculous.
Oh boy.
Well, I played MGS1 a year or two ago, probably two.
Also, virgin isn't an insult, neither is someones age, please don't use either as a valid point. And Otacon has some issues, we know, but that's who he is. You can't have perfect characters. Characters who are 100% methodical and without flaw can be unnerving. See sociopath playthroughs of alpha protocol.
And re: love people they don't know...
Did you miss everything about love blooming on the battlefield?
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