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I hated PS1 visuals
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Link1110
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Thank you!! Everyone always praises comfy couch and console/PC gaming and I thought I was the only one who prefers comfy bed and handheld where I can move it at will.
Not me. The PS1's visuals are really clean compared to the dirty muddy mess that was the N64. Other than the graphics looking unclear, the frame rate in N64 games were abysmal.
I'll take PS1 visuals over N64 any day. This period is the awkward period though. I view it like the 8-bit period where things looked good, but not great. The SNES for example aged a lot better visually compared to the NES, and I see this era being the same. In the end, it is a matter of taste.
I'll take PS1 visuals over N64 any day. This period is the awkward period though. I view it like the 8-bit period where things looked good, but not great. The SNES for example aged a lot better visually compared to the NES, and I see this era being the same. In the end, it is a matter of taste.
I never use that word except for when refering to the series so it confuses me everytime I see it spelled that way and I instantly think it is wrong.
i remember going back to majora's mask in 2006. it was a rough experience for the first thirty minutes, but i got used to the visuals quickly. what i hadn't expected was how nicely everything animated. i was used to the slow zombielike movements from playstation games like final fantasy viii. instead, majora's mask was a lot more expressive.
They're okay. After I tasted Dreamcast graphics, they looked pretty bad. I'd be lying if I said my lil Genesis owning ass wasn't salty about PS1 though, for the longest damn time. Never got one, just had to fucking deal. I wanted to play fucking Dino Crisis and shit. I only began to play PS1 games after I got a PS2, using said PS2 and my local rental place. Dino Crisis 2 and Resident Evil 2, are still the absolute shit.
I only beat RE2 for the first time, like a year or 2 ago. Excellent game.
Edit: Rayman 2 was an absolutely fascinating case-study to observe growing up. Enormous visual disparity of fundamentally, the exact same game. I noticed that my Rayman on Dreamcast, did not look like my cousin's Rayman on Playstation, at all. Felt special and sad at the same time. Really just wanted my cousin to have what I had.
I only beat RE2 for the first time, like a year or 2 ago. Excellent game.
Edit: Rayman 2 was an absolutely fascinating case-study to observe growing up. Enormous visual disparity of fundamentally, the exact same game. I noticed that my Rayman on Dreamcast, did not look like my cousin's Rayman on Playstation, at all. Felt special and sad at the same time. Really just wanted my cousin to have what I had.
encephalon
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I always love PS1 vs. N64 comparisons because it's so subjective. I can really understand the hate for the texture warping, but personally I don't have any penchant against seeing the pixels themselves. Having grown up with the N64, I prefer the PS1 to this day. Yes, many of the PS1 games used a mix of 2D and 3D, which isn't the same as rendering everything in 3D as was common on N64, but ultimately the games probably looked better for it. Technical comparisons aside, the PS1 was ultimately the better vehicle for games with strong art direction that generation in my opinion.
When up close, I agree. Those faces still haunt me.
This was mind blowing at the time. I hadn't even imagined one could make a video game with the kind of cinematic qualities found in Metal Gear Solid. Watching those early 3D games, I thought it was a really cool time to be growing up and playing video games.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Nah Kutaragi was well done with Nintendo after the add-on fiasco. Can't blame him, either.
But the idea of a console by that point in the industry lacking a dedicated sound chip is crazy.
Lol yeah, went Genny -> PS1 here. My dad went and got the package that came with Madden, it's probably the most time I've ever put in a sports game...which still isn't that much. Wasn't until I started picking up stuff like Gaires and SFII Champion Edition that I went beast mode on that thing.
My original PS1 worked for all of two fucking months before the lens piece cracked in half. While playing Crash 2 at the time, no less (not in the system, it was just the game of the moment). Didn't pick one up again until '03 or so; that sonofabitch is still working
100% agreed. N64 games are really hurt by the low-poly counts. PS1 and Saturn games always had more detail, and I'd even say those systems were better at 2D/3D mixes than N64.
I'd even go as far to say N64 was the most crippled system that gen, even moreso than Saturn, due almost entirely to the cartridge format and (learning this now) lack of dedicated audio hardware. Mind-boggling.
Clockwork5
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PSX games could look pretty good at the time.
As a screen shot, sure ok. But in motion? With those textures flickering and polygons flying around like razor blades? No
revolverjgw
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I love the big chunky pixels and low-res unfiltered textures, they have a certain appeal compared to blurry N64 graphics. And I love the unique expressiveness you can get out of the low poly models. But the texture warping can ruin it in some cases. Nothing good about that shit.
PS2 could do mipmapping but they messed up the implementation and it couldn't take angles into account. That's why PS2 games always have more texture aliasing than other systems from that generation.
Dreamcast had proper mipmapping but almost no games used trilinear filtering so textures would just jump from one level to the next.
N64 could actually do trilinear filtering better than either of those consoles, it's just that the texture cache kept them from using it as much as would be ideal.
No, it also lacked sub pixel accuracy (objects look wrong when they or the camera moves, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQMCDpomTK8) and per a pixel depth (parts of models will display in front of objects that should be occluding them), Thus making PS1 games look ugly as sin.
You aren't alone op, I hated the overly polygonal look PS games had. Plus the warping made it even worse. Other than Virtual Boy the PS1 had the ugliest looking games I ever seen. I liked the look of the N64 and Saturn games much more. Then to top it off that generation has aged horribly, so sadly it makes it very had to go back to those games.
ExFalsoQuodlibet
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Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver was glorious
MrCunningham
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Metal Gear Solid was one of those games where great direction and an entertaining storyline, that it just out weighed the technical limitations of the game. But even then, it was quite a good looking title on the PS1. Jeremy Blaustein's impressive localization also went along way in helping create an immerse atmosphere for the game.
As far as modeling goes in a 32bit console game, I was impressed with with the Shenmue Saturn demo. Obviously Shenmue used different models for different sequences. But the texture work and modeling was quite impressive by Saturn standards.
LamerDeluxe
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On the beginning of 3D, 3D looked ugly. Nice.
On its time, that ugly 3D was almost the best a system could put out. You can only say it's ugly from today's tech perspective, which isn't fair.
Back then noone cared about bilinear filtering, antialiasing, resolution or fps, and everyone had tons and tons of fun.
Not playing PSX games because of its 3D is... well, your problem I guess.
On its time, that ugly 3D was almost the best a system could put out. You can only say it's ugly from today's tech perspective, which isn't fair.
Back then noone cared about bilinear filtering, antialiasing, resolution or fps, and everyone had tons and tons of fun.
Not playing PSX games because of its 3D is... well, your problem I guess.
I thought a lot of the PSX games were ugly. However, the system had a lot of games that used pre-rendered backgrounds, and I really liked the way those looked. They made the games feel ahead of their time. Mostly RPGs used it, as well as some other games like the Resident Evil series.
In terms of 3D graphics, I found PSX games to be ugly. There are a few games that looked great though, like Crash Bandicoot. There were a few games that actually gave the best N64 titles a run for their money. That's not to say that I thought the N64 was amazing graphically either. The games ended up looking really blocky, blurry, with shitty textures. One thing I noticed is that while the N64 was better at some things, PSX games always looked more vibrant.
In terms of 3D graphics, I found PSX games to be ugly. There are a few games that looked great though, like Crash Bandicoot. There were a few games that actually gave the best N64 titles a run for their money. That's not to say that I thought the N64 was amazing graphically either. The games ended up looking really blocky, blurry, with shitty textures. One thing I noticed is that while the N64 was better at some things, PSX games always looked more vibrant.
you're out of your mind
you're either too young and didn't play it when it came out, or just lying
that game was mindblowing when it came out
Fancy Clown
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Yeah I'm playing it for the first time right now and I'm pretty impressed with how it looks
The Real Napsta
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I always thought PSX games looked better than N64 games.
Those awful muddy textures made most N64 games look so terrible.
Those awful muddy textures made most N64 games look so terrible.
Palette Swap
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The fact N64 couldn't output RGB certainly didn't help. To this day, I don't understand this oversight.
Same can be said about the PS2.
Honestly, the PS1 visuals didn't bother me at the time, but the PS2 just looked awful in comparison to the Gamecube and Xbox.
R4 looks great in motion, by far the best looking racer of that generation.
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CheDominik
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There were some great looking games like Sheep Dog n Wolf
and seeing Gran Turismo for the first time, I didn't think that game graphics could possibly get any better in the future.
and seeing Gran Turismo for the first time, I didn't think that game graphics could possibly get any better in the future.
cart00nero
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You guys must be very young, ofcourse ps1 3d looks ugly, but back in those days they just blow our mind!
MGS1 ugly???? nahhh, i'm sorry but you are mistaken.
MGS1 ugly???? nahhh, i'm sorry but you are mistaken.
Walter Matthau
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The games that used a brighter color palette and more simplistic textures have generally aged better.
Vane_MagicCity
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PS1 games have their charm but I do prefer the N64 look. I bought the N64 with Super Mario 64 and gaming changed forever for me after that. Later I bought a PS1 with Final Fantasy VII and I remember thinking it looked bad compared to Final Fantasy III on the SNES. It didn't even occur to me to directly compare it to the visually superior Super Mario 64.
PS1 graphics have grown on me thanks to the PSP and Vita.
PS1 graphics have grown on me thanks to the PSP and Vita.
I swear the graininess off PSX games gave me headaches, yet the blurry N64 textures didnt give me that problem..
Valkerionseven
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R4 looks great in motion, by far the best looking racer of that generation.
Not to mention the replays... Yo I'm playing this shit soon as class is over. LOVE this game.
Really need to find a complete copy of it tho... #gamestopgotmeasakid.
I'm not young and always found the 3D on the ps1 really ugly. The N64 was slightly better on this.
I owned 'em all. They all had great games.
Though that generation hasn't aged as well as others, as it was a transitional generation. It was the first/worst gen where polygon graphics were the norm, and companies were learning how to transition 2D games to 3D (or in some cases, 2.5D).
Of course, I'm of the opinion that some franchises should have just stayed 2D.
I judge graphics according to the hardware and the time when the game was developed.
I can still play games like Ridge Racer 4 on my original PlayStation and say: "Wow, this looks amazing". Seriously, this game is full of details on the tracks, and it all was done on such a 'weak console'.
I guess I'm a lucky gamer. I can still go back to any game of the past, and be amazed by it's technical qualities. If a game was amazing looking back then, it still looks amazing to me.
I can still play games like Ridge Racer 4 on my original PlayStation and say: "Wow, this looks amazing". Seriously, this game is full of details on the tracks, and it all was done on such a 'weak console'.
I guess I'm a lucky gamer. I can still go back to any game of the past, and be amazed by it's technical qualities. If a game was amazing looking back then, it still looks amazing to me.
SeventhSon
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I'm the same way.