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I love Playstation Now

the_champ said:
Well, I dont think that theres such big difference (between physical always online and steaming game service). Basically we are talking about two slightly different drm systems (comparable to the drm systems in discs, and for online content, like Google Widevine or MS Playready, for example).
Anyway, my point is that a service like PS Now is convenient and interesting for people outside Playstation ecosystem like me. Simply because it would lower the cost to access to some exclusives.
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No no we are not talking about two different DRM systems. We are talking about one DRM system on physical media and a STREAMING PLATFORM that necessitates an internet connection to function. One needs internet in order to work and the other has a forced internet check in to prove you aren't a dirty dirty pirate. That's like claiming Netflix is "just another DRM scheme." It preposterous.

LAA said:
Am I the only one who doesn't quite like the idea of PS Now? Like what's the point in buying consoles now, even PS4, (I would guess PS Now is possible for PS4 games too, only guessing it's obviously bad for them if they want to sell the PS4)
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You kinda answer your own question dude

LAA said:
That and I don't want all my games being dependent on whether servers are online and working 24/7.
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For many the idea of depending on streaming for all of their gaming is unacceptable. For those people there is dedicated gaming hardware with available physical media. For the casuals who dont own a console and who want to play Crash Bandicoot they can do so via streaming to their Sony Bravia TVs. The service isn't aimed at most "hardcore" gamers.

Another reason many will hesitate is the idea of ownership. Unless they change the pricing and policies of PSNow it is only a renting platform. You cannot actual purchase a game and play it whenever you want to. This is the same reason many hesitate to use game rental services like Gamefly.
 
BladeoftheImmortal said:
It's not the same at all. you are forced at the beginning to either pay 7 bucks up front for a game u might only play one of the 7 days or rental. 20 bucks isn't a permanent buy. at redbox if u keep it for 20 days it's yours forever. they need some policies like what I said. Don't force people to pay 7 bucks when they might not get 7 bucks worth of entertainment.
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Good point. They're not the same. Redbox "forces" you to buy PS3 hardware. And if you keep the game for 20 days you just spent $40 to buy a shitty, unboxed rental copy of a game you could probably have paid half that for used at GameStop. Or you could have rented it on PS Now for 30 days for $15 and not had to worry about returning it and accidentally keeping it too long.

PS: They were offering a cheaper 4 hour option but people like yourself threw a tantrum about the price so Sony removed the option due to the outcry. Sony isn't forcing anyone to do anything. They were offering options. The nature of the service means there is a natural sweet spot in terms of cost for Sony and value to customers. Sadly, the number of outraged people who couldn't simply ignore the options they didn't want to use is now resulting in fewer options for everyone.
 
Something from the advertising campaign:
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JawzPause said:
I'm sure most people would just prefer straight up emulation.
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I certainly would. Playstation Now is nice for what it is, but I tried playing Crazy Taxi, a game that depends on quick reflexes and subtle motions, and man... I couldn't believe how poorly I was doing.

There is going to be input lag. I don't see any way around it.

So while Playstation Now will be perfect for RPG's and slower games, twitch-reflex games, rhythm games, and FPS's are going to be more frustrating to play.

(BTW: Avoid Crazy Taxi on PS3, NONE of the original songs are in the game...)
 
the_champ said:
Consider this. Im an Xbox user. I wont move from Xbox, BUT: I would love to play some PS exclusives (Like Little Big Planet, The Last Of Us, Uncharted). I would pay for on demand service to play these games for a time, if the price is fair.
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i would recommend ebaying a ps3 and play those games on it. I hate lag.
 
I can't believe people support this shit (streaming games from the internet... ew) instead of pushing for Sony to make it so that you can play PS3 discs on PS4.
 
Is Not just about How much the actual game costs, the infrastructure must be crazy extensive.

It works flawlessly and it is too extensive for me but I can see some people using something like this on a regular basis.

I hope it is a success and it stays around.
 
It is a beautiful piece of tech. Its flawless. Lag at first when i got into the beta. now ABSOLUTELY NONE in the past week or so. If the really open it up like spotify or netflix (which is was Shuhei wants) it will be a resounding success.
 
Russell said:
I can't believe people support this shit (streaming games from the internet... ew) instead of pushing for Sony to make it so that you can play PS3 discs on PS4.
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I think their aim is to stream PS3 games to lots of devices in the future such as TVs and Tablets and have a profitable service like PS+. So while we question why not just do BC, BC was no the point of this service.

Someone made a great point. If they have a TV or tablet with PSNow support and they have no wish to spend $150+ for a PS3, they will just pay $5 and rent Uncharted 3 or something and be done with it. Thats kind of what Sony is aiming for and hopes it picks up.
 
Memorabilia said:
Where do you live, what service tier (bandwidth/cost), and what is your cap?

Business Class is your friend. ;)

But, yeah, overall Comcast and their service/value is pretty awful.
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Charleston, SC. The "experimental" Comcast cap here is 300GB. You'd be amazed at how fast one chews through 300GB. Business class is entirely too expensive. They didn't institute the cap here until late last year as a supposed experiment. Imagine my rage when the CEO of Comcast made that comment after the investor call claiming that they have no intentions or plans to introduce bandwidth caps. :|
 
I'd gladly pay 10 bucks for a week rental.

Beats paying full price and going through the process of selling the game after I finish it.
 
I checked it out on my Bravia yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it worked. The video compression was hit or miss, but there was no real perceptible input lag. The connection sputtered a time or two*, but was overall very good, especially considering I'm in the middle of Missouri and likely pretty far from their datacenters.

*Not sure if this was my network or not. Using TV's wireless connected to Netgear Nighthawk at 5GHz 802.11n over Cable 50/3 connection.
 
Russell said:
I can't believe people support this shit (streaming games from the internet... ew) instead of pushing for Sony to make it so that you can play PS3 discs on PS4.
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Playstation Now has nothing to do with backwards compatibility. Sony did not make a big investment so they could be nice to you. This is about streaming games ultimately to non-Playstation devices.
 
Also just grabbed Resident Evil 5 gold edition. I think it was $14.99 for like 90 days. These games run OK. So excited to play ZOE 2.
 
Holy god this sounds expensive, I thought this was supposed to be a subscription service.

Is it really $10-$15 to rent a game?
 
the_champ said:
Consider this. Im an Xbox user. I wont move from Xbox, BUT: I would love to play some PS exclusives (Like Little Big Planet, The Last Of Us, Uncharted). I would pay for on demand service to play these games for a time, if the price is fair.
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To go one step further, I would be really interested to see a Playstation Now app in the future for all devices that might support game controller input (set top boxes, steam consoles, and even the XB1 (and future Xbox consoles). Especially if a native Windows 8 app could be made (we know XB1 will support Windows 8 apps soon, in some form).

I actually think an interesting future is one where all of the content creators have their own apps (Steam, Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo...maybe other game developers?). I haven't made up my mind on I would want this future or not (I haven't totally made up my mind on whether I think the things we'd be giving up would be worth it), but in an ideal world I do think it would be really interesting to see. Would certainly put the industry on its head, and cause a major shift in how things are done.
 
Yes that animation is still there but it goes by really quick. Works great on PSnow. The games look a little washed out. they could improve visuals.
 
jaosobno said:
I'm more curious how PS Now works with low upload speeds. Seems everyone is only concerned with download speed, but upload plays a huge role when it comes to controls latency.

Can anyone (who has tried the service) say how it's gonna run on 1.25 Mbps upload (download is 12 Mbps)?
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My speeds are incredibly lopsided. My download is around 35Mb down and sub 1Mb up. I was surprised when I did the network test and it said I could stream at highest quality. Then again, your only uploading your button presses.

When the first PS4 beta invites went out. I'll admit that Dead Island felt pretty bad. I moved onto Way of The Samurai and it worked great. Same with Sniper Elite as well. I ended up going back to DI and noticed how much better it was than the first time and earned a few trophies.

It works and I'll...probably play more PS Now games in the future if they release games that I missed. I haven't played much recently mostly because there wasn't anything that I wanted to pay to play. I check it every once in a while to see whats added and will commit to a game when there is something I missed since i've sold my PS3.

The rental prices aren't...that bad. You have to compare it to renting games at Blockbuster and Redbox. Renting a game for 30 days would have never seemed needed to me when I was a kid. We always rented everything for a week. I would never rent something for 30 days. Publishes set the prices, which is why the prices are different per game. I'm afraid they're are going to ruin this for everyone to make sure it doesn't hurt their game sales.

Kiote said:
Holy god this sounds expensive, I thought this was supposed to be a subscription service.

Is it really $10-$15 to rent a game?
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Depending on the game prices range from $2.99 to $14.99. Its based on how long you want to rent them. A week is usually closer to $8.
 
Badenergytroll said:
I am not a PR guy. I thought it was shit at first, and over the past week i have noticed a huge improvement. I wish i could take videos of it, before and after and post them. Seems like they are getting ready for the open beta!
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Lag issues fixed? I "heard" there was some lag in titles like dead island riptide.
 
I still need to test it so I can see how much I will suffer with the ping here. But even if it works well, from what I read it seems a bit overpriced.
 
Netflix model or bust. The pricing is insulting and reminiscent of Arrogant Sony™

and I can't believe you spent 100 dollars on streamed ps3 rentals
 
I don't know why people are freaking out about pricing at this point. Digital services have been around for a while now and it's really clear that no one's willing to pay a ton for them. If Sony overshoots the price it's going to be really apparent and the whole thing will be DOA.
 
Badenergytroll said:
I really love Playstation Now. I love it on my PS4. I have games that i missed on Ps3, now at my fingertips. There is almost no lag at all. This is the real deal, people! I was fooling around with it today. Its responsive, and the graphics look pretty decent. Dead Island Riptide was almost unplayable a few weeks ago, now, when i play it, its almost like playing a disc based version. I get completely immersed in the game, and forget that its being streamed to me! Its almost like playing the disc based version. It's almost indistinguishable. I have disposable income, so i rented a bunch of games, such as Resident Evil Code Veronica X. I do have a gripe though. Sometimes the games seem a little bit "cloudy", with artifacts, especially when i am "going fast" or there is a lot of action on the screen. My router that i have my Ps4 hooked up to isn't even really that fast. I bought it in 2009, and back then it was top dog. It might even be only wireless G. If i replace my router with a good fast one, will visuals improve? Any recommendations on routers? A wired connection is not an option for me now unfortunately.
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Well, if a wired connection is not an option, you could look into a Powerline Adapter. I am not sure how well they work in every situation, but I am considering picking one up to try to increase my PS4 speeds. Wired for me isn't really an option either unless I run a network cable under my house from my router to my PS4 in the living room.

Again, I dont know how well Powerline Adapters work, but I know quite a few people that swear buy them. You can get a nice one on Amazon for around $50.
 
I never got a beta invite, so I'm waiting on the public beta that's supposed to be coming up in a couple of weeks. Can't wait to try it out. I dunno how well it'll work on my connection though.
 
SolidChamp said:
How many of you would pay $50 for an unlimited yearly subscription?

Wouldn't something like that be Sony's best bet at this point?
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I definitely would. However, they would bleed money doing this considering how much they spent on Gaikai. I'm thinking it will be at least $100-$150 a year when they get around to announcing a yearly subscription.
 
10 a month or lower sub could be ok. would be nice if they made it lower for people already subbed to PS+ too. but i'm not gonna try out any paid games with their pricing on the beta currently, doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
 
Damn there's some games I wanna rent but I don't have the time to play them now. I hope they stick around as the library rotates shit in and out a little too quickly
 
ooooooo this is interesting.

So based on some people's speculation here, this could be the start of an app delivery service for any device (within reason). I would love that. If they brought out support for streaming to PC I could essentially launch the "app" from steam and play the PS3 titles, except at a premium price. Possibly one day PS4 titles to :|

Phew that's a big cake to imagine. I can see a lot of barriers to that happening but if it did I would be thrilled.

Too much hope in this. I will go back to my pessimistic cave until I see more light.

Thank you for the dreams though.
 
Raist said:
$50? Never ever gonna happen.
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Why? $50 for PS+ currently lets you rent 6 games a month or 72 games a year. That's probably more games than most PS Now subscribers would ever play in a year. PS+ also has other benefits so a yearly subscription for only renting games via PS Now could be even lower.
 
I would only be interested in PSNow if they let you stream the digital games you already bought at no extra cost.

But since that probably won't happen, I don't really have an attachment to the service
 
Kiote said:
Holy god this sounds expensive, I thought this was supposed to be a subscription service.

Is it really $10-$15 to rent a game?
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For 90 days. A 90 day rental from Redbox would cost $180. Actually, eventually they'd just charge you an inflated price ($35) and let you keep the crummy rental disc.

Infinite Xero said:
Why? $50 for PS+ currently lets you rent 6 games a month or 72 games a year. That's probably more games than most PS Now subscribers would ever play in a year. PS+ also has other benefits so a yearly subscription for only renting games via PS Now could be even lower.
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Because with PS Now you aren't just renting a game, you're renting the hardware to play it on. And if you want to have access to a library larger than a couple dozen games on PS Now it will have to cost more than PS Plus.
 
HideyoshiJP said:
I checked it out on my Bravia yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it worked. The video compression was hit or miss, but there was no real perceptible input lag. The connection sputtered a time or two*, but was overall very good, especially considering I'm in the middle of Missouri and likely pretty far from their datacenters.

*Not sure if this was my network or not. Using TV's wireless connected to Netgear Nighthawk at 5GHz 802.11n over Cable 50/3 connection.
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I didn't realize this was already available on Bravia TV's. thats pretty cool to hear that it works well
 
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