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Ico/Shadow of the Colossus collection listing on Walmart.com

Can I really sell Ico for over $30? What's the best way to do that? I promise to turn around and buy the collection.
 
Novella said:
I don't mean to be rude, but SOTC's framerate isn't an accident. Was Schindler's List black and white by accident?
Even if it wasn't an accident, it would then be a poor design choice, as having a higher framerate would have enhanced the game, while a choppy framerate degrades it.
 
Novella said:
I don't mean to be rude, but SOTC's framerate isn't an accident. Was Schindler's List black and white by accident?

If its steady, thats fine. It doesnt have to run at 60 (I know some games are built with 30fps in mind), but as long as the framerate is steady/smooth it wont hurt.
 
Novella said:
I don't mean to be rude, but SOTC's framerate isn't an accident. Was Schindler's List black and white by accident?

yeah, the framerate drops are completely intentional. evidence of ueda's design genius.
 
andymcc said:
yeah, the framerate drops are completely intentional. evidence of ueda's design genius.

Watching the game emulated kind of proves this though. The animations were definitely not made for 60fps.
 
sprsk said:
Watching the game emulated kind of proves this though. The animations were definitely not made for 60fps.
Couldn't that be because they knew it couldn't hold 60 fps? I don't know if that technically makes sense but there are a few games with uncapped framerates that were not made for 60 fps.
 
sprsk said:
Watching the game emulated kind of proves this though. The animations were definitely not made for 60fps.

i'm not saying it should be 60fps, but there are instances of frame rate drops in the game that are a detriment to the game.
 
Day one.

I never got to play Ico (one of my cardinal gaming sins) and playing it along with a remastered SotC will be grand.
 
sprsk said:
Watching the game emulated kind of proves this though. The animations were definitely not made for 60fps.

The animation is fine in the emulator. The "problem" is that it simply isn't that good anymore, Wander's anyway. The Colossi look and move just fine.
 
sprsk said:
Watching the game emulated kind of proves this though. The animations were definitely not made for 60fps.
Bioshock's animations definitely weren't made for 60 fps (especially that awful physics renderer they use), but it sure as hell plays a lot better when it's running at that clip.
 
Another reason besides graphics and framerate that I would like this collection is that my old ass PS2 (R.I.P. BC PS3) cannot stream the world in SotC at a constant rate. Probably due to an old, dying dvd drive/laser or something, but last time I tried to play it there was a ton of stuttering and load freezing while I just rode the horse around.
 
No hype until confirmation of buttery smooth framerate and at least native 720p rendering for both games.

Would love to get to finish ICO, though. Got stuck on a puzzle when I had the PS2 version and never bothered to progress. Then I traded it in to GameStop.
 
Novella said:
Second link is NOT english. Repeat not english. do not click.
Thanks for the warning. I don't even want to imagine what would happen to my computer if I viewed a non-English page.
 
These are two games that definitely deserve a re-bundle with HD graphics. I still have my two original copies but I will definitely get this.
 
sprsk said:
Watching the game emulated kind of proves this though. The animations were definitely not made for 60fps.
Remakes should run at 30. I mean for SotC running at constant 30 would be a big deal. The animations run fine at higher framerates also, they don't have that manual step animation system that looks like it's running at a lower framerate like Halo for PC had for example.
 
If this doesn't officially get announced by the end of TGS, it's easily going to be the largest gaming disappointment of the year for me.
 
Vard said:
If this doesn't officially get announced by the end of TGS, it's easily going to be the largest gaming disappointment of the year for me.
TGS is gonna have The Last Guardian unveiling and the ICO/SotC package announced, mark my words!
please :(
 
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