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[WhiteRabbitEXE]

Is Darth Maul still some weird looking spider thing.

When he's introduced in Clone Wars he does for about an episode, and that's his only canon appearance with the spider-like droid body. However it's basically a pile of garbage he was grafted onto while he lived in a hole for years, completely out of his mind.

 

[Haunted]

its almost as if the writers are superhero comic level hacks where continuity doesnt matter

 

[Bishop89]

lol some of those...

i rather believe finn is lando's son and not windu/snokes lol

 

[Comfort Jones]

Darth Maul was the best character of the prequel trilogy.

Maul isn't even a fuckin character though. He's a visual design.

Boba Fett effect all over again.

 

[tuna_love]

Maul isn't even a fuckin character though. He's a visual design.

Boba Fett effect all over again.

bobbaffect

 

[StayDead]

me before watching the video:

me after watching the video:

This was basically me. Although I'm sure it's not true.

 

[shira]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xBRxofNI3Y

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Because Windu was just Sam Jackson being boring in Star Wars, while Maul was a bad dude Sith, and everyone knows the Sith were the cool guys.

 

[Fbh]

Well I see it as getting shot.

Some people have survived from being shot in the head, others have died from being shot in the leg.

There isn't a single set outcome to being shot. And there isn't a single outcome to being mutilated and thrown off high structures.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

What the hell is Ki-Adi-Mundi doing?

 

[Chuckie]

Luuke isn't canon like Bigger Luke is.

He could become canon.....like Grand Admiral Thrawn!

 

[mrkgoo]

This was basically me. Although I'm sure it's not true.

It's conspiracy theory through and through...why? Because there's been more thought put into it than front eh makers of the movies, lol

 

[Chuckie]

It's conspiracy theory through and through...why? Because there's been more thought put into it than front eh makers of the movies, lol

Haha yeah that was what I was thinking. That and the fact they are using all kinds of non-canon to explain stuff. Like his fighting style or his purple light sabre which afaik isn't purple to symbolize the dark and light side.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Because Windu deserves to stay dead after that joke of a scene.

He was basically Jedi Boba Fett. All style but dies like a bitch when he needs to do something actually important.

 

[Gamezone]

I think people like Darth Maul because he didn`t have to say anything written by George Lucas in the first movie. His mystery is left up to our imagination.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

I think people like Darth Maul because he didn`t have to say anything written by George Lucas in the first movie. His mystery is left up to our imagination.

George Lucas knew what he was doing with Maul.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Because Windu deserves to stay dead after that joke of a scene.

He was basically Jedi Boba Fett. All style but dies like a bitch when he needs to do something actually important.

I wouldn't blame you but I don't think you've seen that scene in a while.

 

[Sephzilla]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xBRxofNI3Y

me before watching the video:

me after watching the video:

lol some of those...

i rather believe finn is lando's son and not windu/snokes lol

This was basically me. Although I'm sure it's not true.

There are two holes with that theory after thinking about it.

1) The Force Awakens establishes that Rey has been having dreams about Luke Skywalker since before the start of the movie. When Kylo Ren is trying to read her mind he mentions Rey having dreams of an island, which we realize is where Luke is at the end of the movie. This means that Rey had unconsciously been tapping into The Force for a bit now which means Snoke's "There has been an awakening" line can absolutely apply to Rey because Rey has been tapping into The Force for a bit now, she just wasn't aware of it until the lightsaber scene.

2) Kylo Ren sensing Finn's refusal to fight and eventual betrayal doesn't necessarily imply that Finn is Force Sensitive. Kylo Ren was also able to sense Han Solo's arrival on Starkiller base and Leia was able to feel when Han died, and Han is not Force Sensitive. So the movie establishes that people who are sensitive to The Force can sense people who aren't - plus A New Hope has a similar moment when Obi-Wan senses Alderaan's destruction.

 

[nicoga3000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xBRxofNI3Y

Little LTTP on this video, but my wife and I thought that Finn was force sensitive after our first viewing. That scene in the village was the first huge clue. Some of this video is a bit out there, though.

As for Darth Maul, I haven't watched the cartoon stuff. I don't understand how he is alive.

 

[TaterTots]

Snoke being Windu is a interesting theory that would be pretty cool imo, but I think Snoke is Snoke...a new character.

 

[Veritigo_X]

As for Darth Maul, I haven't watched the cartoon stuff. I don't understand how he is alive.

He pulled himself into a trash compartment somewhere down in that pit on Naboo and got dumped on a garbage planet where he forced a sentient snake to lure people to him so he could eat them.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

He pulled himself into a trash compartment somewhere down in that pit on Naboo and got dumped on a garbage planet where he forced a sentient snake to lure people to him so he could eat them.

While he was CUT IN HALF

 

[TDLink]

While he was CUT IN HALF

He has more of his body in tact than Anakin when he was put into the Vader suit. Let's not pretend it's impossible for him to have survived or that there was no precedent in the series. Plus you have no idea how his anatomy works, he's an alien and has magic powers.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

He has more of his body in tact than Anakin when he was put into the Vader suit. Let's not pretend it's impossible for him to have survived or that there was no precedent in the series. Plus you have no idea how his anatomy works, he's an alien and has magic powers.

Anikin only got limbs cut off. And he needed a robotic suit to survive and lost most of his mobility. Darth Maul just got new legs and he was A-Ok. He also got cut off at the torso. He also lived for a very long time without medical care. It's dumb. In fact, people made fun of the emperor coming back for years in the old EU but that was a lot more plausible within the context of Star Wars than Darth Maul was.

 

[TDLink]

Anikin only got limbs cut off. And he needed a robotic suit to survive and lost most of his mobility. Darth Maul just got new legs and he was A-Ok. He also got cut off at the torso. He also lived for a very long time without medical care. It's dumb. In fact, people made fun of the emperor coming back for years in the old EU but that was a lot more plausible within the context of Star Wars than Darth Maul was.

Anakin got -all- of his limbs cut off and was lit on fire from volcanic magma. I think Maul faired a bit better by merely being cut in half.

Regardless, he survived because the writers had a good story for him and decided he should survive. It's a fantasy story, that should be allowed.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Anakin got -all- of his limbs cut off and was lit on fire from volcanic magma. I think Maul faired a bit better by merely being cut in half.

Regardless, he survived because the writers had a good story for him and decided he should survive. It's a fantasy story, that should be allowed.

Anakin was also given medical care. Darth Maul lived in a garbage dump with no torso for several weeks.

Death has no meaning if you decide to bring back characters every time you have a good story. That's what turned comics books into a clusterfuck.

 

[Veritigo_X]

While he was CUT IN HALF

Yes, but I'm not too familiar with the biology of his species so I'm not sure how much that matters.

Plus the lightsaber would cauterize his wound so it's not like he would bleed out.

 

[TDLink]

Anakin was also given medical care. Darth Maul lived in a garbage dump with no torso for several weeks.

Death has no meaning if you decide to bring back characters every time you have a good story. That's what turned comics books into a clusterfuck.

Sure but it's not like they do it all the time. They did it with this one specific character, and it ended up making the character a lot better than his initial appearance, as well as helped develop other characters (like Obi-Wan) even better.

Overall, it's a net positive they brought him back and he wasn't so certainly dead via disintegration or burning or something that it made it plausible it could happen, even if it was a remote possibility.

And again, he's an alien with probably different biology from a human and has magic powers. Anything can make sense when that is taken into consideration.

 

[Sephzilla]

Anakin was also given medical care. Darth Maul lived in a garbage dump with no torso for several weeks.

Death has no meaning if you decide to bring back characters every time you have a good story. That's what turned comics books into a clusterfuck.

There's also canon bullshit explaining that Anakin can also will the force to keep him alive when he's not in the suit. Which is why he can still breathe and shit if his suit gets damaged. The same shit probably applies to Maul.

 

[zeemumu]

Anakin was also given medical care. Darth Maul lived in a garbage dump with no torso for several weeks.

Death has no meaning if you decide to bring back characters every time you have a good story. That's what turned comics books into a clusterfuck.

You can augment your body with the force if your body is crap. That's how Yoda and Palpatine were able to do all of that crazy shit despite being old as dirt. I'm willing to be that that's why Maul survived for so long. That and the Saber cauterized his wounds

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Yes, but I'm not too familiar with the biology of his species so I'm not sure how much that matters.

It matters a lot to any species that has a circulation system.

There's no such thing as a complex species (not counting things like worms and microscopic organisms) that can survive being cut in half.

 

[StayDead]

He pulled himself into a trash compartment somewhere down in that pit on Naboo and got dumped on a garbage planet where he forced a sentient snake to lure people to him so he could eat them.

Snake, Snook.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Sure but it's not like they do it all the time. They did it with this one specific character, and it ended up making the character a lot better than his initial appearance, as well as helped develop other characters (like Obi-Wan) even better.

Overall, it's a net positive they brought him back and he wasn't so certainly dead via disintegration or burning or something that it made it plausible it could happen, even if it was a remote possibility.

And again, he's an alien with probably different biology from a human and has magic powers. Anything can make sense when that is taken into consideration.

They've only done it once in the new continuity, which hasn't been around that long. They did it all the time in the old continuity. Give it a few years. I'd be shocked if they didn't bring back Boba Fett for example.

 

[Veritigo_X]

It matters a lot to any species that has a circulation system.

There's no such thing as a complex species (not counting things like worms and microscopic organisms) that can survive being cut in half.

If you're going down the "there's no such thing" road you probably have way more issues with Star Wars than an evil space magician surviving being cut in half.

 

[TDLink]

They've only done it once in the new continuity, which hasn't been around that long. They did it all the time in the old continuity. Give it a few years. I'd be shocked if they didn't bring back Boba Fett for example.

That was EU and not canon. The stuff they did with revived Fett also wasn't nearly as interesting as the stuff they've done with Maul.

I think them doing it with Maul as an isolated incident is fine and worked out better than anyone could have hoped.

 

[Glix]

Who do you think Snoke is?

Trooper Davin Felth

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

If you're going down the "there's no such thing" road you probably have way more issues with Star Wars than an evil space magician surviving being cut in half.

Yeah but when you write fiction you should make an effort to keep it consistent and believable within the context of what you've already presented. If you just make up shit and say "its magic, who cares!" then it destroys the believably in the world you've created. Why should I care about anybody dying if someone can survive getting cut in half? Why does the big battle in ATOC when all the Jedi are being killed matter? Why don't they all just come back from the dead? What about the end of Ep 3, when they are purging all the Jedi? Shouldn't some of them be able to do what Maul did? Maul was just an apprentice and they were wiping out members of the Jedi council by shooting them in the back. Yet somehow they were able to kill hundreds of them. It makes no sense.

 

[Gravidee]

Yeah but when you write fiction you should make an effort to keep it consistent and believable within the context of what you've already presented. If you just make up shit and say "its magic, who cares!" then it destroys the believably in the world you've created. Why should I care about anybody dying if someone can survive getting cut in half? Why does the big battle in ATOC when all the Jedi are being killed matter? Why don't they all just come back from the dead? What about the end of Ep 3, when they are purging all the Jedi? Shouldn't some of them be able to do what Maul did? Maul was just an apprentice and they were wiping out members of the Jedi council by shooting them in the back. Yet somehow they were able to kill hundreds of them. It makes no sense.

This line from Palpatine is basically the crux of Maul's survival. The Sith will do anything to stay alive because they don't believe that there is anything after death. As I've said before in other threads, it's not impossible to survive being cut in half because it has happened before in real life as well. Combine alien anatomy with evil space magic in a sci-fi fantasy setting and it's really not all that unbelievable.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

This line from Palpatine is basically the crux of Maul's survival. The Sith will do anything to stay alive because they don't believe that there is anything after death. As I've said before in other threads, it's not impossible to survive being cut in half because it has happened before in real life as well. Combine alien anatomy with evil space magic in a sci-fi fantasy setting and it's really not all that unbelievable.

Doesn't that make every lightsaber fight against a darkside user kind of pointless then. Let's say Rey and Kylo have a big climatic fight in Ep 9 and she stabs him and he falls over seemingly dead. How am I supposed to believe he's dead when darkside users can survive being cut In half? I mean cutting someone in half is just about the worst thing you can do to somebody with a lightsaber besides I guess cutting their head off.

 

[Ecotic]

I think Mace couldn't recover from the sting of force lightning in time to grab a hold of something or land softly. It took Anakin a couple of minutes after Dooku hit him with lightning to recover, and although Luke got back on his feet relatively quickly after being hit with lightning I think he was getting hit with a less potent torture level.

So Anakin in Episode II got hit with 'teach him a lesson' high setting. Luke got hit with a weaker 'You stupid brat, suffer!' level in Episode VI.

Meanwhile Mace endured an ultra-high level of lightning that he couldn't shake off on the 20 second fall to the ground.

 

[Sephzilla]

Doesn't that make every lightsaber fight against a darkside user kind of pointless then. Let's say Rey and Kylo have a big climatic fight in Ep 9 and she stabs him and he falls over seemingly dead. How am I supposed to believe he's dead when darkside users can survive being cut In half? I mean cutting someone in half is just about the worst thing you can do to somebody with a lightsaber besides I guess cutting their head off.

Because Kylo Ren wasn't trained by Palpatine, one of the strongest Dark Side users ever, while Maul was

 

[Mr Swine]

Anyone else just hoping that Snoke is just The emperor that survived the fall and death in the DS2

Oh and this one:

I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKING SNOKES ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING PLANET!

 

[sanstesy]

Darth Maul needs his own movie.

 

[Adam_Vania]

probably costs less to hire voice acting for Maul. like, as in zero dollars.

 

[zeemumu]

That "Mace is Snoke" theory is cool and all, but if Mace is Snoke then why does Snoke have two organic hands?

 

[Sephzilla]

That "Mace is Snoke" theory is cool and all, but if Mace is Snoke then why does Snoke have two organic hands?

How do you know both of them are organic?

 

[zeemumu]

How do you know both of them are organic?

Why would they give him a prosthetic hand with old person skin on it?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

probably costs less to hire voice acting for Maul. like, as in zero dollars.

Nope

Starkiller getting paid those Maul and Palpatine bucks.

 

[7roject28]

Mace got lightning blasted out of a building and fell thousands of feet. He was probably screwed regardless of how many flying cars hit him on the way down.

And if there's anything the dark side has taught us, it's that you can survive large amounts of damage if you're angry enough.

It's funny that they can force pull/push but whenever they fall they can't do it to themselves so they won't get hurt. Only time was Luke and he was pretty much just a novice then. Also one other thing that I've only seen them use once is force run to run faster. Why can't they use that to fight faster?

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Also one other thing that I've only seen them use once is force run to run faster. Why can't they use that to fight faster?

Because the prequels are dumb and added things that contradict the original films.