mikefrails
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If exclusives are counter to what gaming is about; is the PS5 getting future Bethesda games (after Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo)? Poll inside!
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Sleepwalker
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They won't come to PS5 but you will be able to play them on your phone. The same one you use to shitpost on NeoGAF.
Leyasu
Banned
Pulling content is one way of looking at it. Making their platform more appealing and worth investing in another.
Timed exclusive is not sustainable
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Poll is missing the "don't care about Bethesda product" option.
Frankly Xbox is welcome to their stuff as far as I'm concerned, I'm mainly looking forward to seeing how the fanboys react to the way their titles are monetized with mtx. Cos there's no way that's going away just because its on GamePass.
Frankly Xbox is welcome to their stuff as far as I'm concerned, I'm mainly looking forward to seeing how the fanboys react to the way their titles are monetized with mtx. Cos there's no way that's going away just because its on GamePass.
timmyp53
Member
Well MLB the show exists...
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
minecraft does too
ethomaz
Banned
Exclusives are what the gaming is about.
That was always the case and it will be the case in the future.
MS purchasing studios is really great because it add value to their platform but with PC too that is not that big impact anymore... it could do wonder for their Gamepass innitiative.
That doesn't affect PlayStation brand.... it won't have some game but they will have others and exclusives will be still the key item for the PS5 success.
That was always the case and it will be the case in the future.
MS purchasing studios is really great because it add value to their platform but with PC too that is not that big impact anymore... it could do wonder for their Gamepass innitiative.
That doesn't affect PlayStation brand.... it won't have some game but they will have others and exclusives will be still the key item for the PS5 success.
Piercatore
Member
Lie to me. I don’t care if you take away the bugs and crashes 
Leyasu
Banned
Their platform is on pc to. You warriors need to get with the times.
Gamepass is their platform. Adding content is their goal. They are not looking at Sony.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
What are you talking about? Its way more sustainable than buying studios and publishers. Its a one-off single sunken-cost arrangement that can be quickly analysed after the fact and future plans adjusted accordingly.
Buying studios/publishers is a bigger initial buy-in, then the full cost of development and maintaining these subsidiaries payroll and infrastructure costs going forward. Its a commitment that makes further spending inevitable and the financial outcome uncertain.
Kokoloko85
Member
I dunno how they are gonna fund all these studios with gamepass. So I think they will pick and select what to release and where like MInecraft
RafterXL
Member
No, they are absolutely not getting these games, nor should they. The gymnastics people are doing to try and hold Microsoft to some different standard is hilarious.
The day Sony unlocks all their first party titles is the day Microsoft should do the same, until then buy a PC to play Microsoft's *new* first party titles...or don't.
The day Sony unlocks all their first party titles is the day Microsoft should do the same, until then buy a PC to play Microsoft's *new* first party titles...or don't.
Aguero9320
Member
Does anyone have the URL for them to submit the PS5 version of the XCloud App?
TheGreatWhiteShark
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MiguelItUp
Member
I think it's safe to expect they'll be getting some. I wouldn't be surprised if MS gets some exclusive titles out of the acquisition. Or deals where a game launches with exclusive content, is available earlier, etc.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
I really don't know how to respond to people that think that microsoft just spend $7.5 billion, right at the start of a new generation, in order to support ps5...
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
I think a select few will still come to PS5, they have put their 'exclusive' titles on ps4 before, so I think a few will come eventually
timmyp53
Member
I mean wouldn't it make more sense to look at it as MS bringing games to PS5 to support MS.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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timmyp53
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Won't see me dying on a hill thinking hardware loyalty matters.
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Futaleufu
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If MS had the rights to publish FIFA games they would be forced to publish them on PS too.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I really really hope he keeps the games on ps5. Please?!
#Phonepunk#
Banned
people are tripping if they don't think the next Fallout/Skyrim won't be pimped out to every device that can play them
hardware isn't really where the money is made. it's in software. in fact i think they lose money on hardware. so all this wishing and hoping for Xbox exclusives is console war silliness. there is no financial reason for them to gate off potential sales.
they want to make the most money, those games will be multiplat.
hardware isn't really where the money is made. it's in software. in fact i think they lose money on hardware. so all this wishing and hoping for Xbox exclusives is console war silliness. there is no financial reason for them to gate off potential sales.
they want to make the most money, those games will be multiplat.
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Leyasu
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You are not looking at it from Microsoft’s perspective or in terms of their plans. They want/need a constant stream of content. They are investing now for the future.
You need to realize that they are not talking about a return in the 3 - 5 years either. This is a long game, with an eye on a compelling service where the content is theirs, and the money made is too.
Nice job of avoiding the question.
Fallout 4 made over *corrected*, not entirely sure. Even something like Fallout shelter makes 200k$ per month. With numbers like that its nit gonna be cheap to buy.
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MarkMe2525
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I think the difference here is Phil was referring to arbitrarily timed exclusive much like his deal for tomb raider or Sony's FF16 deal. Exclusives made from studios you purchased are fundamentally different. In this case you aren't paying for exclusive access to a product, but actually paying the devs salaries, benefits, HR, health insurance, retirement.
I hope all games get released on all platforms, I would be ok just getting it day 1 with gamepass. I wouldn't knock MS though for keeping games from their studios exclusive.
I hope all games get released on all platforms, I would be ok just getting it day 1 with gamepass. I wouldn't knock MS though for keeping games from their studios exclusive.
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that was the old model. the new model is gamepass. why would you just want a gimped one off payment(sony,retailers get a big cut of it), when you can have a 100% profit recurring payment that pays more in the long run.
this shit is not coming to playstation.
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Bladed Thesis
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They sold over 50m consoles. That's nothing to run away from, regardless of their competition. And with their games selling millions on Steam, the increased profits have been more than enough to show the CEO of the biggest company in the world that gaming is worth it enough to drop 7.5b. This isn't hard to see.
If Xbox was truly struggling as some people think, they wouldn't drop 7.5b on Zenimax. They'd Zune the Xbox hardware and go 3rd party. They haven't done this, if anything they gone the opposite direction. MS may not be your favorite company but you have to realize they're not absolutely stupid. If they're investing more into Xbox than they see returns as being even more. And after a generation like Xbox One, for them to see MORE return, the initial return of this generation is more than people think.
LazyParrot
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Where are those numbers from? Fallout 4 seems to have sold around 13.5 million copies across all platforms, suggesting that each buyer paid ~$150 on average. Even if you include all the money from DLC and the Creation Club, that still seems extremely high, especially considering how quickly the game dropped in price.
lastmessiah
Member
Only way MS exclusives are coming to PS is if Game Pass does too. And that's up to Sony.
You might be right i looked it up but didnt pay much attention to the source. Seems off to me. Although fortune mag claims they made over 750$ mil on day one alone so either way its numbers like those that tell u Bethesda was gonna be expensive
Xenon
Member
Sony probably sent those feelers out to buy exclusives a while ago. Which is why they have a number of exclusives ready to go for this gen. This could be Microsoft's reaction to a competitor trying to buy them out of the market. To me this explains why Microsoft CEOs even getting involved in the conversation. Basically like, okay so you're trying to buy exclusives from third parties to hedge us out of the market. We will just buy the third parties.
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I dont see what sense it makes to make them exclusive. Much smaller install base on Xbox than playstation.
Plus they'd get paid twice. 70 bucks on playstation plus the game pass subs.
MS is now a third party publisher who just happens to have a console.
Xbox still has no exclusives
Plus they'd get paid twice. 70 bucks on playstation plus the game pass subs.
MS is now a third party publisher who just happens to have a console.
Xbox still has no exclusives
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LisaMariaMartin
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I doubt it tbh. They didn't pay 7.5B to keep the status quo. Sony crushed them with exclusives. Why give their fans even more incentive to skip your own hardware?
Besides, Sony has a great 2021 lineup. We know NOTHING about MS lineup. Starfield could be a 2021 title. You really believe they are gonna release on PS5 when they themselves barely have anything confirmed?
Besides, Sony has a great 2021 lineup. We know NOTHING about MS lineup. Starfield could be a 2021 title. You really believe they are gonna release on PS5 when they themselves barely have anything confirmed?
Knitted Knight
Banned
Agree. But it's nice to see the 180's and all the hoop jumps regarding Phil's past statements. Even more so whether people genuinely believe that Phil will stick to his words and that there is some depth below the surface. Some have even gone as far as to claim his words meant something else entirely in light of recent events. It's good to see varied opinions on the matter either way.
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ethomaz
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Stuart360
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Fallout 4 sold 12mil copies in its first 24 hours -https://fortune.com/2015/11/16/fallout4-is-quiet-best-seller/
And has sold 5-10mil copies just on Steam.
That 13mil number when you Google it is wrong. Bethesda said that Skyrim has hit 35mil copies sold, and Fallout 4 over 20mil copies, when Skyrim launched on the Switch.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
But it makes total sense.
Sony bought Insomniac half a year ago for $229 million (a dev that focuses 99% of their time on Sony games anyway). And MS decided to spend $7.5 billion on Zenimax.
They are totally related.
lol
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Bethesda games will come to PS5. They'll do the Sony/PC route of maybe releasing Starfield and ES6 on PS5 4 years after release at full price.