Sony moneyhat SFV just so Xbox wouldn’t have, I always have all consoles Psn is crappy for online fighting game and I had to buy a Pc just for SFV
Ohh I understand completely, Fanboys wanted Microsoft to play aggressively because they have no games, yet when they do get those games. They start bitching about it. Saying it’s anti-consumer. But if Sony had the damn chance no one would be flipping tables.I think you've misunderstood. For the whole generation, Xbox has been calling Sony anticonsumer because phill Spencer deliberately instilled that idea into their heads with his usual PR. Now the shoe is on the other foot, Sony fans are taking the opportunity to show how hypocritical Spencer and his fans are.
It does need to be discussed, it’s not my fault you get salty enough to not want to talk about it. If you don’t want to all you had to do is ignore this topic and be done with it. But since you wanted attention you had to say something to get yourself attention.Thanks for the totally revolutionary insight. Gaf hasn't discussed this enough I guess.
Again, if Sony had done this, we had a damn parade for Sony in celebrating. That’s my main point. It’s true that’s anti-consumer for any company but let’s not pretend there’s bias when it comes to Microsoft just because of its previous history.No...it was great when Xbox did it back then. It just all changed when PlayStation did it.... cause people listen to Phil like he is the Pope or a world leader or something....
Just do a searchNo one from XBox or MS has called Sony anti consumer...the fuck is this nonsense?
How do you can play in place where most of players creating artificial lag is out of my mind.Sony moneyhat SFV just so Xbox wouldn’t have, I always have all consoles Psn is crappy for online fighting game and I had to buy a Pc just for SFV
Sony fans doesn’t talk about anti-consumer it was a thing created by Xbox side to try find something bad to talk about Evil Sony.Just like the Sony fanboys here were applauding FFXVI exclusivity last week, they would have done the exact same thing if Sony had made this purchase. Sony fans only consider it anti-consumer when it’s Xbox.
Post one quote from Mark Cerny that has the word anti consumer in it. Or any comment at all that says anything about exclusives being bad for consumers.I think you meant to say Cerny
Sony anti-consumer bad Evil Sony.
I am not a fan of Microsoft for two reasons.So if the tables were turned and Sony had somehow bought Bethesda, would Sony fans would not be acting this way and saying it’s anti-consumer. They would be celebrating the fact that Sony would definitely put ALL Bethesda games exclusive and took away the gaming deals that Microsoft has and took away support for online games like ESO and Fallout 76. Overall I don’t know why people online are complaining about this deal when it was them who forced Microsoft to be aggressive over getting studios and games. (Even though in my opinion they should do it differently even if it takes them years. But at some point they had to act aggressively)
Or Microsoft’s online requirements. Very anti-consumer.When people angry they throw "anti-consumer" even if it doesn't make sense in that context...because they simply angry.
You guys want to talk about actual anti-consumer? its when Sony sometimes decides to censor some Japanese games and as their costumer its effecting my enjoyment of those games......why? just because to make people who has no interest in those type of games in the first place happy.....now that being "anti-consumer".
How do you feel about "All Y'all"?'Y'all' must be eradicated.
MS is in a different path. It's due to MS's own decisions and statements that people question the exclusivity; it would never be questioned if it was a Sony acquisition.
I think it has been cleared up however, seems obvious that their big games will be on PC/Xbox only.
And again if you can get some of those games in the future - if not all - on PC or through Xcloud and some will be on Nintendo Switch and even mobile - wich to everyone who has some understanding is what case to case refers to - this technically isn't exclusivity, it only means they will never be on PS. There are many many pro's to that and almost none cons.
Yeah if because you have only a if, this thread its the gift that keeps givingAgain, if Sony had done this, we had a damn parade for Sony in celebrating. That’s my main point. It’s true that’s anti-consumer for any company but let’s not pretend there’s bias when it comes to Microsoft just because of its previous history.
If MS decides to let Bethesda release anything on PS, it will be a few years later, like Sony does to PC releases. That would be fair, all things considered.Yeah; now I think Starfield might still come to PS5, because if Sony were trying to get timed exclusivity then a PS5 version must've been far along. Enough to where I can see MS considering letting it be finished if the costs aren't too high, just to maximize the sunk costs (although those earlier funds would've came from Zenimax's previous investors, not MS, so it's not really "their" sunk costs that'd be lost in not releasing a PS5 version).
But even that would be PS5 - at best - getting it probably a year later. And that's the only massive IP outside of maybe the MMORPG stuff (Elder Scrolls Online) I see ever hitting a Sony platform going forward unless Sony allows Gamepass on the PS5, which would be complicated enough, moreso than Apple (note about Amazon's Luna: the reason it's on iOS is because it's not really on iOS; they basically abstract access through a website so Luna isn't installed as a native iOS app. Sounds less performant to me tbh, but we'll see).
put bloodborne, demons soul, ratchet and clank, god of war, horizon, and infamous on xbox then we can talk about putting bethesda games back on sony platform ( you can keep tlou).I’m sorry but before I begin my argument here, I want to point out. I’m in no way offending or acting in a fanboyish way. I’m only stating the facts (opinion) in what I see. (So if the mods think it’s too much then by all means close this thread)
Many online are in rage that Microsoft purchasing Bethesda is anti-consumer only because Microsoft could potentially make Bethesda games exclusive for their ecosystem. Which is absurd to even think that it’s not fair when Bethesda and Sony have an exclusivity deal for two games to stay on PS5 for a year or two. (In which Microsoft will still honor that deal). So if Microsoft had not purchased Bethesda how would that be fair for Xbox players and let’s not forget that allegedly Sony tried to bid Starfield as an exclusive deal for their console. (Timed). So if the tables were turned and Sony had somehow bought Bethesda, would Sony fans would not be acting this way and saying it’s anti-consumer. They would be celebrating the fact that Sony would definitely put ALL Bethesda games exclusive and took away the gaming deals that Microsoft has and took away support for online games like ESO and Fallout 76. Overall I don’t know why people online are complaining about this deal when it was them who forced Microsoft to be aggressive over getting studios and games. (Even though in my opinion they should do it differently even if it takes them years. But at some point they had to act aggressively)
What are your thoughts about this, do you think it would be fair for Microsoft to make future Bethesda games potentially exclusive to Microsoft’s ecosystem?
In this case elders scrolls and starfield. Were funded by bethesdaPaying to artificially limit a title from being released on another console for a year is infinately more anti-consumer than purchasing a studio and funding the games yourself. No doubt about it.
Last I checked those games are still in development and in the case of Elder Scrolls very early development.In this case elders scrolls and starfield. Were funded by bethesda
And still being funded by them, these games dont required any financial help from msLast I checked those games are still in development and in the case of Elder Scrolls very early development.
When Sony acquired Insomniac, robbing Xbox gamers from ever getting a sequel to Sunset Overdrive, it was called a Megaton and a win for Sony. Zero fucks given by Sony fans, absolutely no concern whatsoever, in fact they defended the idea. No mind reading required to figure out if Sony bought ZeniMax, we would see a celebration
Waiting is better than never playing it, as said 9000 times.I think we can all agree that timed exclusives are pretty shit. Doesn't matter who does it, cause no one wants to be on the shit end of a timed exclusive, and having to wait to finally be able to play said game.
Yeah; now I think Starfield might still come to PS5, because if Sony were trying to get timed exclusivity then a PS5 version must've been far along..
Insomniac games released 3 games on Xbox (Fuse, Sunset Overdrive, Song of the Deep)
Insomniac games released... 23 games on Playstation. They've always been, at heart, a Sony studio.
I’m sorry but before I begin my argument here, I want to point out. I’m in no way offending or acting in a fanboyish way. I’m only stating the facts (opinion) in what I see. (So if the mods think it’s too much then by all means close this thread)
Many online are in rage that Microsoft purchasing Bethesda is anti-consumer only because Microsoft could potentially make Bethesda games exclusive for their ecosystem. Which is absurd to even think that it’s not fair when Bethesda and Sony have an exclusivity deal for two games to stay on PS5 for a year or two. (In which Microsoft will still honor that deal). So if Microsoft had not purchased Bethesda how would that be fair for Xbox players and let’s not forget that allegedly Sony tried to bid Starfield as an exclusive deal for their console. (Timed). So if the tables were turned and Sony had somehow bought Bethesda, would Sony fans would not be acting this way and saying it’s anti-consumer. They would be celebrating the fact that Sony would definitely put ALL Bethesda games exclusive and took away the gaming deals that Microsoft has and took away support for online games like ESO and Fallout 76. Overall I don’t know why people online are complaining about this deal when it was them who forced Microsoft to be aggressive over getting studios and games. (Even though in my opinion they should do it differently even if it takes them years. But at some point they had to act aggressively)
What are your thoughts about this, do you think it would be fair for Microsoft to make future Bethesda games potentially exclusive to Microsoft’s ecosystem?
Bethesda release almost all their games on Xbox. Guess it makes sense if their new home is Xbox haha
And still being funded by them, these games dont required any financial help from ms
That's why I said timed exclusives suck. Think about it for a second. A timed exclusive means that the game will eventually be on both consoles. Why not just release both at the SAME time? Timed exclusives have never been beneficial to the customer.Waiting is better than never playing it, as said 9000 times.
I'm not angry at MS for buying Bethesda though I do think deals like Tomb Raider and the recent Deathloop one are kind of scummy.
Paying to artificially limit a title from being released on another console for a year is infinately more anti-consumer than purchasing a studio and funding the games yourself. No doubt about it.
Of course, not all 3rd party exclusive deals are bad. See Sony actually funding SFV, a game that wouldn't have been made otherwise.
Some people just can't fathom buying an Xbox and it's so funny.
No because Bethesda released almost all their games on Playstation too... There's no such discrepancy between platforms releases as there was with Insomniac
I do not have any understanding for your position in this discussion.That's why I said timed exclusives suck. Think about it for a second. A timed exclusive means that the game will eventually be on both consoles. Why not just release both at the SAME time? Timed exclusives have never been beneficial to the customer.
It's funny how the narrative around the term exclusive has changed over the last year or so. Not so long ago Xbox had no games because they were also available on PC. Jump forward to today where Sony have been putting their exclusives on PC and Xbox have bought Zenimax and now we are talking about these console/PC games being exclusive again.
Either Sony fanboys moved the goalposts or it was all a lie? Pick one...