As I read an article about lesbians being equivicated with being transgender when forming a women's team I've been pondering the contradictions some of us have regarding such people.
How is it my place to advocate to transgender sharing with women something as personal as a bathroom when I wouldn't date someone if I couldn't see them as the gender they know themselves to be?
Obviously there are big differences in each of these three scenarios but how can we function as a society with these types of contradictions?
Addendum #1
When I started this thread I wanted to see if some people would acknowledge their inability to see transgendered individuals as the gender they identify as. I was hoping to eventually move past that talking point and rethink how we regard both them and cis women when talking about this.
This discussion hasn't really moved in a way to transition into the next step so I'll just throw my current thoughts on the solutions out there.
There are many solutions but I feel they mostly range from respecting cisgenders only or respecting both cisgenders and transgenders.
There are already men who and women who see transgenders as their sex only and not their gender. Their viewpoint is that transexuality is a fabrication of the mind and shouldn't be acknowledged as a gender they aren't. Such people shouldn't concern themselves with this topic because it isn't about them.
This topic is about those who lie about their viewpoints on transgenders. When you tell the cis opposite sex to see them as something you personally don't you are disrespecting them and transgenders. To say you will never sleep with a transgender is to deny their gender. Our sexuality is tied into many things but nothing is a stronger factor than our sex and gender.
If your outlook on life is that you are interested in a fucking or forming a relationship with a man or woman it shouldn't matter if they are cis or trans. Physical and mental capacity should matter more in those cases. If your outlook is to form a family it's understandable why there are hurdles now. Personally if I was living in the year 2150 and designer babies was affordable and widely adopted I wouldn't have any reason to see a potential partner as a barrier based on the circumstances of their gender.
We don't live in that world but we don't need to live in a world where we can't be honest with those who want to be treated equally and fairly.
The alternative extreme end is to acknowledge our cis opposite sex partners are right and deny transgenders certain rights based on their sex.
How is it my place to advocate to transgender sharing with women something as personal as a bathroom when I wouldn't date someone if I couldn't see them as the gender they know themselves to be?
Obviously there are big differences in each of these three scenarios but how can we function as a society with these types of contradictions?
Addendum #1
When I started this thread I wanted to see if some people would acknowledge their inability to see transgendered individuals as the gender they identify as. I was hoping to eventually move past that talking point and rethink how we regard both them and cis women when talking about this.
This discussion hasn't really moved in a way to transition into the next step so I'll just throw my current thoughts on the solutions out there.
There are many solutions but I feel they mostly range from respecting cisgenders only or respecting both cisgenders and transgenders.
There are already men who and women who see transgenders as their sex only and not their gender. Their viewpoint is that transexuality is a fabrication of the mind and shouldn't be acknowledged as a gender they aren't. Such people shouldn't concern themselves with this topic because it isn't about them.
This topic is about those who lie about their viewpoints on transgenders. When you tell the cis opposite sex to see them as something you personally don't you are disrespecting them and transgenders. To say you will never sleep with a transgender is to deny their gender. Our sexuality is tied into many things but nothing is a stronger factor than our sex and gender.
If your outlook on life is that you are interested in a fucking or forming a relationship with a man or woman it shouldn't matter if they are cis or trans. Physical and mental capacity should matter more in those cases. If your outlook is to form a family it's understandable why there are hurdles now. Personally if I was living in the year 2150 and designer babies was affordable and widely adopted I wouldn't have any reason to see a potential partner as a barrier based on the circumstances of their gender.
We don't live in that world but we don't need to live in a world where we can't be honest with those who want to be treated equally and fairly.
The alternative extreme end is to acknowledge our cis opposite sex partners are right and deny transgenders certain rights based on their sex.