atr0cious;126309374]This is exactly what I was saying in the post you quoted:
Nintendo had some crazy ridiculous estimate for how much the U was going to sale last year, and when they missed it by millions, they sadly but finally realized that jumpman and puzzle games arent the hit.
I think I misinterpreted the first part of your post. AS I think we are on the same page. Sony might come close to Wii money, but they are within a higher price bracket.
Like I said I think we are on the same page, I think i misinterpreted your first post which threw me off.
Irrelevant, as games can only sell in the environment and on the console they're on. A couple new games isn't going to make the system look any better to people who still have no clue what it is.
I don't understand this reply?
Sony would beg to differ, and they're doing it with out arguably strong games.
It will taper off come this next year, once the Nex gen systems are the more norm.
And i was mainly talking about Wii, not PS4.
This is called the market righting itself. You're kidding yourself if you thought the U was going to outsell those two systems, when only the core are buying things right now.
I never said that? I said if they want to be in a better position then making games like Splatoon a system seller is in their best interest, just like Wonderful 101 was, but they fumbled that game horribly. Which was the point of the article.
This is a reach and not at all true. Especially when Ubisoft pimps out multiple "hits" that are all the exact same style.
So games like CHild of Light, rayman, Valiant hearts, Blood dragon, among other smaller games are all the same style?
I see a bunch of sequels, a mature repackaged rachet and clank, a grittier AssCreed, and another driving game. So much style and variety. Again, once you get past the coats of paints, these all play much the same as everything else the industry is offering. Nintendo is also a part of this problem.
But your not mentioning all the other smaller titles that are promoted harder on PS4, XBox, like Hotline Miami, Stick it to the man, Valiant Hearts, Transistor, Child of Light, Rime, Ho- Hokum, resogun.
These titles sprinkled throughout the "Flashy Paint" games as you so call them are what is breathing life into the industry.
Which is why Nintendo is failing badly, if because they don't know how to promote their products outside of handhelds. The Wii was handled pretty well I'll give them that, but gamecube, 3DS launch, Wii u, were not promoted well or to the correct demographic.
They make a game like Zombie U, Wonderful 101, Sonic:The lost worlds and can't sell them enough to make sequels?
I agree they need hits, and have been really lacking on advertisement, but I don't watch TV. I do get inundated with Wii Sports Club ads on Hulu, which doesn't help either.
So you want them to do something different, but only in somethign they're very used to doing? Are you arguing mascots can only be born out of some boring collectathon game? I'd argue Lego City Undercover is the best collectathon 3d platformer yet, and no one wants it, because its Lego. Are you using the ever popular, "because its Nintendo" reasoning, to say that if they create another IP just for a 3d platformer, that it won't underperform?
And what exactly is a hit? MK8, NSMBU, and 3DWorld are all selling well, especially on the install base of the U. Are you really thinking one game is going to rocket the install base? This isn't the 90s where only consoles had games. Now I can pull out my phone and be entertained just as much as playing on a console.
Did you know that no one who wasn't watching E3 gives a shit about Bloodborne? Joe the plumber will be excited when they are told to be. E3 is for the press, and lately appeasing the core who think it's for them.
WOW, haha that's hilarious, because that game is all over social media including Youtube, and is promoted heavily in Sony's Commericials that showcase their games library,and in Gamestops as well.
Dark Souls has become a series\Brand of game that is now well known. Bloodborne is being marketed as such.
No, the core will let mom and dad know why they are excited if Nintendo gives them reason to be. Word of mouth is how Nitnendo plans to sell games it seems, especially games like Bayo 2 and W101, as evidenced by the implementation of the MiiVerse.
Well I guess that really seemed to work for Wonderful 101 huh? or Sonic:The lost world.
If you can't see that Splatoon is everyone who has written them off as a mario box, then I don't know what to say. When ever list wars come up, people don't even want to give Nintendo credit for their smaller projects. And when people ask for them to go third party, they don't care that a game like Sin and & Punishment, or even W101 would get made. The'r own 'fans' don't even think W101 is first party. And you're kidding yourself if you think Nintendo looked at W101 and thought 'million seller.' They made the game because they could. And that's why I buy Nintendo consoles.
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Well, they don't know how to promote games on a system that they even don;t know who their selling too?
The article touches on the stigma that NIntendo has painted themselves into, which you touched on.
That's the issue.
If they can get out of that stigma by creating more awareness which they started too at E3 and continue that awareness to the masses, and promote correctly they can overcome the stigma.
But at this stage when PS4 and Xbox first party AAA, and indie games are ramping up it's going to become more difficult for them.
I needed the money for an iPad.
