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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Oh yeah I remember playing all those gears and uncharted games on my pc in 2007. Dude, dark souls and even mass effect 1 were exclusive for a year.
During 360 era, if you only had a PC you are still missing out.
Sure, I'm just saying the consoles themselves are cheaper but it's not the only way to invest in games, for example, you saw those miny indie games priced around 15ish to 30 or even sometimes 40 bucks, but that's not the case with pc, the pricing for these games is completely different, adding the high quantity plus quality of indie, if you collect many of these, you'll almost end up with complete set of experiences as if you hold a platform of it's own, you're looking around 5 or even 2, 1.5 and sometimes 1 buck, that doesn't happen on consoles, I wouldn't actually believe many of these indie games could survive without pc and mobile.
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Sentenza
Member
Are you mentally challenged or what? Why do you even think that "all these Gears and Uncharted" are even REMOTELY close to be the ones I cared about the most?
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Clearly you don't have a PC and are just exaggerating issues you have heard of as if they are the status quo. If you have high end hardware you can always run games better than console. The people complaining are either trying to run something at top settings on a middling card or complaining that they can't get 120 FPS on a game that was ported from console or at least prioritized for it.. The games can still run better than console.
I personally cannot think of any of these 'broken' games over the past generation that I have had any complaints with on my gaming PCs. Yes the cost of the GPU is a problem, but they work good enough for me gaming on the same 4K HDR TV my PS5 is hooked up to.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I don't give a shit what games you care about.
I just state the fact that dring 360/ps3 era, if you only gamed on pc you missed out massively on tons of games, some of which are still exclusive.
Gears and uncharted trilogy are used as and example because these were very high selling 360/ps3 games. But there are tons more.
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Buggy Loop
Member
And if you gamed only on consoles, you missed on a ton of games too
Neverwinter nights
The Witcher
Civilization
Crysis (not gimped version)
Arma 2 (eventually dayz mod)
Stalker shadow of Chernobyl / Call of Pripyat / clear sky
Dota 2, dawn of MOBA
And the PEAK MMO era :
Eve online
World Of Warcraft
Guild Wars 2
And many others
I mean what were you even doing if skipping World of Warcraft during its peak? The list could almost be reduced to just WoW and I would have made my point.
And probably still too busy playing Warcraft 3, Homeworld 2, Icewind Dale 2 from 2002-2003 releases, because what is a « gen » on PC.
But I had a 360 back then so I didn’t miss on shit, but I would gladly have thrown it under the bus to keep the moments on PC during those years, easily.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I like console exclusives of that time more than games you listed.
I don't play mmo and I never liked civlization.
Crysis 1 is a milestone in gaming but it's a shitty game. Timeshift released same month was such a better game.
Witcher was great.
I had the pc and 360. I played everything so you don't have to tell me. I had new 8800gts on release.
But this is not the topic. I just said that no. PC is not the best gaming platform because it is missing tons of exclusives. We are not talking other way around.
LimanimaPT
Member
I'm a software developer and I play poker on the PC. How would that work on a 60 inch TV whitout a mouse or keyboard?
Klosshufvud
Member
You don't need to have literally every game ever to be considered the best. A handful of console blockbusters missing can't take away all the million other advantages that PC have that consoles don't. I remember when I built my first PC in 2012. I never looked back. Got a PS4, was disgusted by how poorly it was designed. Got a PS5 and Series S later on and still as disgusted how poorly designed and anti-consumer they are.
MikeM
Member
If you love PC and its freedom, then not sure why you are buying consoles anymore.
PCs advantages also bring about their disadvantages. Whereas console strength is one box for all. Both have their own advantages.
BlackTron
Member
PC may not be the best way to play everything but it does give you a way. With a gaming laptop you have access to almost every game ever in a bag...it's the one and done. Add in Switch just for convenience of not having to emulate and having a handheld and I don't feel like any bases aren't covered. All the other consoles and gaming stuff I have feel like a novelty/excess on top of the PC/Nintendo combo. Even though I have PS, XB and retro consoles and lots of old hardware and controllers they become more an embellishment of the hobby...
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
PLaying gears games when they came out, gta4 when it came out, mass effect, the darkness, dead rising... all of that was most important to me at that time.
It was fundamental in creation of my gaming tastes
Sentenza
Member
Ahum, how was that? Ah, right...
"I don't give a shit of what games you care about".
Your personal preferences are irrelevant to a lot of people. There are ENTIRE GENRES that orbitate outside of your specific sphere of interest.
But at least we can all appreciate that you dropped the pretense of being a "disgruntled PC gamer" and basically admitted to be a rabid console fanboy from the start, I guess. Not that it should come as a surprise to anyone who was paying attention.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
wrong wrong wrong.
Just because I don't play mmo or civilization doesn't mean I am some fanboy lol.
I played on pc throughout whole 360 and ps4 gen.
But statements like yours are what push me away from pc community. toxic people
I do use the PC 90% of the time, though. And the consoles felt more important up until the end of the 360/ps3 era.
Klosshufvud
Member
Sure but we're not living in 2008 anymore.
I keep buy because casual acquaintances of mine prefer consoles. And that's really the only viable use of consoles today. Casual use.
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Mobilemofo
Member
If your on a budget, like most people, probably not. If your a bit more financially able, then yes, if you have the cash to spunk up the wall on a gfx card etc. overall, I'm happy with consoles still.
Mobilemofo
Member
Voice commands. I mean, I operate my ps5 via voice commands, surely a poker game wouldn't be too hard to play via voice Comms.
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nemiroff
Gold Member
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Lupin25
Member
You don’t have to.
GTA 6 & DS2 aren’t coming to Pc day one.
Can’t blame people for not wanting to wait… And you pc-only dudes are moronically judgmental. Fucking nerds.
MikeM
Member
Plenty of hardcore players on PS5. I don’t get the casuals argument at all. But do you man.
Sentenza
Member
What a fucking clown.
Also: "Oh no, waiting few months for GTA6. How will I be able to survive that?"
Ah, right: like for ANY other previous GTA release.
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Buggy Loop
Member
So many TRIPUL AAAYYYYSSS I would throw under the bus to keep this
Amazing how some peoples think that nothing exists outside of easy hand holding painted ledges and GPS mission marks blockbusters. The more these games are coming to Steam the more I realize I didn't miss much.
Bojji
Member
If it's 30fps locked I doubt many PC players will buy console for this.
twilo99
Member
Not on that Nvidia Xbox next u know
Bojji
Member
Next Xbox will arrive after GTA port on PC.
Rockstar is also not fast with enhanced versions so GTA6 will be 30FPS locked on consoles for many years (like RDR2).
Guilty_AI
Member
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
It's been the best platform for any generation?
..Was this a trick question?
..Was this a trick question?
Bojji
Member
Most new games have shader compilation at start. We can all thank Alex from DF for ranting about this, I like that so many people hate him but he is really good at what he is doing and improved PC gaming.
bender
What time is it?
My theory is that it is former console warriors who graduated to the PC platform and became the very annoying vocal minority who are often easy to spot with their unironic usage of PC Master Race. I still find them easy to pity as they missed the golden era of PC gaming.
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Guilty_AI
Member
Guilty_AI
Member
Tbf, we're currently in quite the terrific era in PC gaming, for anyone paying attention at least.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
yep!!!
before 2021, the golden combination IMO was a PC and a Switch. Now it's a PC and Deck OLED. All the games, everywhere you go. This is the best time i've ever been a gamer.
Interfectum
Member
The answer is yes.
bender
What time is it?
Pricing aside, sure. I just have a parallel theory about gaming being better when games were made with platforms in mind. As budgets have ballooned and titles target just about every platform, games have been diluted. It's hard to get excited about those types of experiences no matter how you are playing them. Thankfully, PC is the easiest place to escape from modern gaming tendencies. My greater point is that experienced PC gamers rarely feel the need for the chest beating we see so often on this forum. The bright side is that those folks are easy to troll.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
No but it gets a lot of them. And for certain consoles it gets the titles before the games even come out.
Those aren't the 3 most important things in a gaming system. then again there is no "true" 3 most important things in a gaming system, it really depends.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
When "games were made with platforms in mind", PC gamers missed out on Mario, Sonic, Castlevania, Crash, Spyro, Megaman, DMC, Metal Gear Solid 3, God of War 1-3, Gran Turismo 1-4 (though you still can't play GT on PC today unless you emulate), Halo 1-3, Gears of War 1-3, Forza 1-4, Forza Horizon 1-3, list goes on...... yeah no I'm glad PC gaming is in a better spot now.
bender
What time is it?
That knife cuts both ways.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
sure, PC had the most innovative FPS games and RTS games too as well as all of the mods. but the console titles were more numerous and popular, and had a greater amount of variety. You were genuinely missing out on a lot if you had a PC and didn't own a console in those days.
Nowadays though it's easy to buy a PC and Steam Deck and basically be covered for 98% of the new releases coming out (the 2% being whatever PS5 exclusives come out). Plus it's easier to make a system and if you're willing to have on par/lower performance than the consoles you can still build an OK budget build around 500-700 dollars.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
My preference for PC is also a bit biased as i've been using and loving computers for a decade now, i grew up on Windows 7, Windows XP and even Windows 8.1. Those interfaces feel more familiar and recognizable to me than any console I've had.
the amount of time i've spent on my Xbox 360, 2DS, and Wii U combined probably is not close to that to the amount of times i've been seen staring at the Windows interface. I like computers.
the amount of time i've spent on my Xbox 360, 2DS, and Wii U combined probably is not close to that to the amount of times i've been seen staring at the Windows interface. I like computers.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
when ocarina of time released on the N64 and not a single soul gaming on PC got to experience that beauty. Now you can play it on PC with even better visuals, support for all controllers, quality of life fixes and an actually good framerate.
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