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IGN fell for it.

Wow, now their listing the Triologies as canceled? And to think, this is the same site that would hype up rumors all last year that would bomb :lol ****!

and :lol at the K-otaku being owned, the ****ers deserved it. Whoever wrote out the article was probably jerkin it with his left and typing out the article with his right.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Wow, now their listing the Triologies as canceled? And to think, this is the same site that would hype up rumors all last year that would bomb :lol ****!

and :lol at the K-otaku being owned, the ****ers deserved it. Whoever wrote out the article was probably jerkin it with his left and typing out the article with his right.
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Did you read that Kotaku post? It was basically "this rumor is total bullshit."
 
I'm just seeing this for the first time today, and I can't believe IGN went "to press" with this. Big time credibility hit, in my eyes.

I work for a mid-size newspaper, I see dozens of press releases a day and there's no way in a million years we'd ever publish key information from a press release without some form of independent corroboration. A press release is a launching point for a news article. It's not news in and of itself. Even if it comes through official channels, it's still not "ready for print." Do they not have a phone? Couldn't they make a simple confirmation call?

That's Journalism 101, and IGN failed miserably. If this is business as usual, they need to go back to school.

::smacks head::

its so easy to see that's not a pr if you've seen a million of those things. come on IGN.
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This post bothered me for some reason. How many press releases have you seen? Because I thought it fairly well done, and I'm certain IGN has seen their share as well. Were you just posturing?
 
Game Web sites are not about corroborating stories and checking facts. They're about getting stuff up first.

And there is no "to press" with a Web site. I understand you weren't being literal, but for Web site editors, publication means simply making a mouse click.


ghostlyjoe said:
I'm just seeing this for the first time today, and I can't believe IGN went "to press" with this. Big time credibility hit, in my eyes.

I work for a mid-size newspaper, I see dozens of press releases a day and there's no way in a million years we'd ever publish key information from a press release without some form of independent corroboration. A press release is a launching point for a news article. It's not news in and of itself. Even if it comes through official channels, it's still not "ready for print." Do they not have a phone? Couldn't they make a simple confirmation call?

That's Journalism 101, and IGN failed miserably. If this is business as usual, they need to go back to school.



This post bothered me for some reason. How many press releases have you seen? Because I thought it fairly well done, and I'm certain IGN has seen their share as well. Were you just posturing?
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ghostlyjoe said:
I work for a mid-size newspaper, I see dozens of press releases a day and there's no way in a million years we'd ever publish key information from a press release without some form of independent corroboration. A press release is a launching point for a news article. It's not news in and of itself. Even if it comes through official channels, it's still not "ready for print."
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If it matters, IGN didn't write a "news article" here. It's a listing for holding news if it was proven to be news. There's a thread about it on the IGN board (you have to be registered to read it though) about it, that it was meant to be a temp listing that slipped into the live server. You know how the Obits team at your paper has reports on the death of Elizabeth Taylor and Abe Vigoda, for if (or more when) they do die? That's what it was supposed to be. On the internet, though, stuff doesn't go through Layout or pass through the EIC before being shipped off to the printer, it just goes up.
 
CamHostage said:
If it matters, IGN didn't write a "news article" here. It's a listing for holding news if it was proven to be news. There's a thread about it on the IGN board (you have to be registered to read it though) about it, that it was meant to be a temp listing that slipped into the live server. You know how the Obits team at your paper has reports on the death of Elizabeth Taylor and Abe Vigoda, for if (or more when) they do die? That's what it was supposed to be. On the internet, though, stuff doesn't go through Layout or pass through the EIC before being shipped off to the printer, it just goes up.
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My newspaper doesn't prewrite obits, but that's neither here nor there. It's a common industry practice. "To press" is just a jargon term for publishing, making it available to the public.

Besides, it's not really like prewriting obits. We KNOW that someone will die, and the information contained in the obit still has a burden to meet. Also, a prewritten obit won't have a lead or time of death or contain any information that isn't factual on the day it's written.

I see what you're saying. I still think it's a sign of lazy or downright poor journalism. They're accountable for everything they publish, even if its in electronic form, and even if its only up for a short while. This isn't an actionable offense, really, but if it were, IGN could be sued for defamation, even if a correction were promptly posted. They need to fact check BEFORE they hit the enter key. Even typos can be actionable, if they're unfortunate enough.

A mistake is one thing. It happens (more often than I like) at all media outlets. Corrections are common. What isn't common is knowingly publishing false information or publishing information you believe to be true without investigating to a reasonable degree. This isn't "Dewey defeats Truman," but it's bad journalism nonetheless.
 
ghostlyjoe said:
This post bothered me for some reason. How many press releases have you seen? Because I thought it fairly well done, and I'm certain IGN has seen their share as well. Were you just posturing?
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It was fairly well done, but there were a number of giveaways, so I have to agree with him.
 
...the **** is this? (Last panel)

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They keep adding stuff...
Also, look at what Internet Explorer says (bottom left corner) :lol


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I think it's just come to the point where IGN's database guys are just messing around, because judging by the number of hits on this thread alone I'm sure IGN made a nice little packet of ad dollars from the spike in traffic.
 
IGN said:
Update: We'd like to make it clear that this story was sourced from the NeoGAF forums, so we can't guarantee its accuracy.
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:lol

Is that going to be a permanent disclaimer to every source of GAF news posted on gaming websites?
 
I don't even believe IGN would publish something with public forums as a source. I just can't comprehend why you would do that unless you really didn't give a shit about the sources you were using at all, in which case IGN could come up with considerably more interesting stories on their own and source their asses or their dogs.

This is ridiculous. You don't put a disclaimer on a story that says, "Lol my sourz is bad may-b!!!" You don't publish that article. Insane.
 
The moment I cancelled my subscription to IGN was the day I found GAF. Thank you IGN for confirming my beliefs that you are a waste of money. :lol
 
Chris Remo said:
Wow, I missed that Newell-sourced-from-Game Informer-sourced-from-NeoGAF bit. Good lord.
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Same here. I can't believe that this is what passes for game "journalism" now. Sourcing a forum rumor might fly if you're just running a small gaming blog, but I-freakin-GN??? Don't they have any industry sources that can corroborate information so that you don't have to post a shitty little disclaimer about the your questionable source?

Good Lord.
 
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