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IGN Got Community Noted After Posting Misinformation To Attack Crimson Desert
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The community note cites game breaking bugs.
IGN's tweet or article isn't about game breaking bugs. It's about design issues like having too few fast travel points that they have in-fact patched more of.
Maybe the community notes needs to be community noted.
IGN's tweet or article isn't about game breaking bugs. It's about design issues like having too few fast travel points that they have in-fact patched more of.
Maybe the community notes needs to be community noted.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I wouldn't read their opinion about the game regardless. It would sour my experience. Reviews are such "one and done" pieces. I can't think of a time they went back to a game.
Saber
Newd Member
Yes but giving this community notes attention/visibility really gives the public a well know warning to not click or believe in anything IGN publishes, turning them officially unrealiable(killing their click bait money farm).
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
I haven't tried the game yet, but I was talking to my friend yesterday, and he had a pretty game-breaking bug. Something about the game crashing every time he opened his inventory. He eventually found an old save that worked, but he lost about 6 hours of progress. And he has to do something every time he saves so that his inventory doesn't corrupt, apparently.
Topher
Identifies as young
The community note cites game breaking bugs.
IGN's tweet or article isn't about game breaking bugs. It's about design issues like having too few fast travel points that they have in-fact patched more of.
Maybe the community notes needs to be community noted.
Well if the article is about things that they say can't be patched, but they have been patched, then that in itself should be noted.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Why do all these websites who were having a blast with Concord and Highguard hate Crimson Desert? I simply don't understand.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's a long article, first half is about the things that have been patched and given the game a transformative feel from launch, the second half is about their grievances in things like the story structure and quests that are probably not going to be patched.
The community note blurb makes no sense in this case.
forsakkenSoul
Member
There's absolutely nothing wrong with IGN's article. That Community Note was clearly written by a monkey who apparently can't read or understand a simple text.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
IGN/Gamespot both 
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
The article argues that the game isn't fixable by comparing it to Cyberpunk, but the issues it points to are exactly the kind that are fixable.
I'm not sure to what extent you've played the game, but drawing parallels to cyberpunk to begin with are incredibly disingenuous. Even when this game dropped day 1, it wasn't even remotely in the same state as cyberpunk.
This is just more of IGN continuing their agenda
For gaming journalist, this is absolutely unacceptable and they should absolutely have a community note calling out the bias
Topher
Identifies as young
It does when the game is being compared to Cyberpunk 2077 which needed to be patched due to technical issues. So that reference itself doesn't make sense. It's click bait trying to double down on its negative review.
Generic
Member
The article isn't about bugs, it's about the controls, writing and (apparently) how much the players have to play until the game gets good.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
The article treats issues like traversal, combat feel, pacing, and overall cohesion as if they're fundamental flaws that can't be fixed, but in reality those are all highly tunable systems that games routinely improve post-launch.
Generic
Member
Pacing and combat are hard to fix.
Durin
Member
- Eastern game that promotes none of the values these outlets will fall all over themselves to reward or make excuses for
- Western press will never have the same level of exclusive access content to make for/with these eastern studios, to prop up their stagnating sites that relied on SEO that AI search killed.
- Little to no networking options to pivot from their dying journo jobs, to jump ship to PR, marketing and writing jobs at these eastern studios (they do this more than people think with western devs).
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
sigh ..
If you had read the actual article, it says exactly what you're saying. I'll copy the relevant portion since clearly no one's actually reading the article and only relying on the tweet blurb to form a final opinion.
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I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
This has some of the best combat I've played in a while for this sort of game, so that kind of confuses me to begin with, but I do think combat is actually pretty easily fixable. Hell combat in cyberpunk was fixed.
Pacing is also easily fixable. a great example I can think of is New World. People complained about the pacing and when they re-launched it they completely revamped the opening sections. The game ultimately failed for a bunch of other reasons, but that fix was widely considered a good one and one that I personally loved.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
For those unaware, IGN provided a shitty low review to begin with and are now doubling down given that the general consensus is that people are waking up to the fact that this is actually a really good game
This game is continuing to trend more positively by the day and IGN's review is starting to look more stupid by the day
This was happening even before the most recent patch. It feels like a combination of two things: early review sites shaping initial perception, and then players actually spending time with the game and forming their own opinions. As more people stick with it and experience it for themselves, the sentiment is clearly shifting. More players are realizing it's a genuinely great game. Thought this was interesting, so I wanted to share.
Edit: 8.4 MC user score as of 3/25
www.metacritic.com
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This game is continuing to trend more positively by the day and IGN's review is starting to look more stupid by the day
This was happening even before the most recent patch. It feels like a combination of two things: early review sites shaping initial perception, and then players actually spending time with the game and forming their own opinions. As more people stick with it and experience it for themselves, the sentiment is clearly shifting. More players are realizing it's a genuinely great game. Thought this was interesting, so I wanted to share.
Edit: 8.4 MC user score as of 3/25
Crimson Desert Reviews - Metacritic
AN AGE OF FADING LEGENDS, A SAGA WRITTEN IN BLOOD Experience the untold tale of mercenaries struggling to survive in the unforgiving lands of Pywel. STORY Enter a war-torn realm of medieval fantasy, where allegiances are tested and heroes are made. Explore a world where first glances can be...
www.metacritic.com
Topher
Identifies as young
Sigh…I read the article. I also read the article title you keep ignoring
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I doubt it but sure, if you say so.
Weird leap of logic to jump from a small header saying 'cyberpunk style victory' to complaining about cyberpunk needing patching for technical reasons, when the actual article covers that point in very specific detail as well.
Your criticism, much like the community note, just reads like baseless IGN hate, which may be warranted in many cases .. but not here.
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ReasonBeing
Member
I don't see where IGN suggested there were "game breaking bugs". Weird community note.
Edit: I read the article as well fyi. The community note is misguided and IGN's criticism seems reasonable for someone who is looking for something more akin to a traditional Action RPG. It even acknowledges that certain gamers may find Crimson Dessert to be their GotY.
Edit: I read the article as well fyi. The community note is misguided and IGN's criticism seems reasonable for someone who is looking for something more akin to a traditional Action RPG. It even acknowledges that certain gamers may find Crimson Dessert to be their GotY.
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I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
The section you quoted doesn't tell the full story and seems to suggest it's mostly critical of story related stuff.
The article's non-story criticisms are mostly centered on gameplay friction rather than anything fundamental: it points to awkward controls, punishing difficulty spikes, clunky inventory management, limited or poorly placed fast travel, and the general grind required to prepare for bosses. It also notes how these issues slow down momentum and make basic tasks like traveling or managing resources more tedious than they should be. But all of these are classic quality-of-life and balance problems—things like control responsiveness, difficulty tuning, UI/inventory systems, and traversal design—that games routinely improve through patches, which makes the article's claim that the game's issues aren't fixable feel pretty nonsensical.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Sigh…did you read the community note? It says it is click bait. Click bait refers to a sensational title so how that is a "weird leap of logic", I have no idea. I will say the community note should have pointed out the comparison to CB as well to be clearer, but both myself and
I collect VHS tapes
picked up on it.Defending the note is hating IGN now?
"If you say so"
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The game did not release with any game breaking bugs and users have not reported any game breaking bugs
Nothing in IGN's tweet or the article remotely says anything about game breaking bugs.
If you want to 'defend' this erroneous note, more power to you.
They didn't. This is one of the dumbest community notes I've ever read. I thought there's supposed to be a vetting process before these are published.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
And I thought IGN had a vetting process before issuing reviews but here we are
What we get instead is an article that comes across as deceptive because it presents strong, definitive conclusions that aren't really supported by its own examples. The article claims the game has deeper, unfixable problems, but then points mostly to gameplay friction that are routinely improved through patches. It also frames the situation like a post-launch failure while relying on early impressions, blurring the line between opinion and fact. The result is an argument that feels overstated and misleading, because the evidence it gives doesn't actually justify the "not fixable" conclusion.
As a reminder, this is terribly written article says stuff like this, all of which is 100% bullshit:
"there are some things that can't be fixed."
"Crimson Desert suffers from much deeper issues that only extensive genetic modification, not bandages, can fix."
"Fixing that kind of issue isn't a case of patches or updates – it demands a Final Fantasy 14-grade redesign…"
"No amount of traditional patching is going to make Kliff's journey interesting."
Utter bullshit.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Hyperbole and typical journalism trying to tell people how and what to feel. These people would take 10 identical Zelda games and give them 9's.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
Agree.
I'm just glad that someone is calling out the bias in an official note even if the note is not 100% accurate
I'm starting to question the agenda of people on this very board that take issue with this note given that the note was placed on an article that is clearly deceptive and filled with bullshit
I'm sorry if the note makes it more difficult for IGN to spread their bullshit agenda
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh, I don't know about that .. I also fell off of the game for similar reasons, didn't' jive with the controls, the game play isn't the most fun and unlike other systems / animation priority heavy games like RDR2, the characters and story are paper thin so those weren't interesting enough to keep me going either.
KanKamAndNob
Member
It's because the devs aren't Western activists. It's the same reason Stellar Blade only got a 7, but an IP killing turd like Veilguard gets a 9.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
I think you're kind of proving the opposite point. For starters this game is reviewing extremely well and most of us don't have those complaints per the huge influx of positive user reviews (see the thread I link to earlier), and things like the story open up more later anyway. But even putting that aside, what you're describing, controls not feeling great, gameplay not clicking, pacing issues, is exactly the kind of stuff games improve over time. Those aren't locked-in problems. That's tuning and iteration. The article takes those kinds of issues and still jumps to "this isn't fixable," which is why it comes off as disingenuous.
Topher
Identifies as young
The game did not release with any game breaking bugs and users have not reported any game breaking bugs
Nothing in IGN's tweet or the article remotely says anything about game breaking bugs.
If you want to 'defend' this erroneous note, more power to you.
Cyberpunk did have game breaking bugs though. Nothing wrong with clarifying that Crimson Desert does not and that the comparison in the title is faulty.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
Comparing Crimson Desert's launch to a game that had to accept massive refunds due to technical problems is defamation territory.
Pearl Abyss should talk to their lawyers and give IGN a little shake.
Pearl Abyss should talk to their lawyers and give IGN a little shake.
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Lokaum D+
Gold Member
as soon as you finish the tutorial the game is insta good, so about 20 minutes.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Again, I am getting a distinct feeling that the article isn't being read here.
Their biggest issue in this article is the quest design, campaign structure and poor writing. Those are the kinds of things they say can't be fixed with a patch but with a complete overhaul like FF14 had to do.
IGN are actually praising Pearl Abyss for being quick to reply to fan feedback about basic game play mechanic level things instead:
Why are y'all making me make IGN seem like the good guys here?
semiconscious
Member
my question: if you're having a genuinely great time with a new game, why give a fuck about ign's opinion?...
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
You're right that the article focuses on story, but that's kind of the issue. It spends a lot of time talking about controls, traversal, inventory, and pacing, all patchable stuff, and then jumps to "this isn't fixable" based on story. That's why people are pushing back. It uses one subjective point to make a broad conclusion, while most of the actual problems it discusses are already being improved.Again, I am getting a distinct feeling that the article isn't being read here.
Their biggest issue in this article is the quest design, campaign structure and poor writing. Those are the kinds of things they say can't be fixed with a patch but with a complete overhaul like FF14 had to do.
IGN are actually praising Pearl Abyss for being quick to reply to fan feedback about basic game play mechanic level things instead:
Why are y'all making me make IGN seem like the good guys here?
Also, I'm not sure why you're saying I didn't read the article. I've pulled multiple direct quotes from it, and everything I've said is in there. Even the post you just quoted reflects that. Where exactly did I misstate anything? I'm starting to wonder if you read the article because literally everything I said is in the exact article.
And if you somehow interpret me quoting from the article as making you make IGN look like the good guy I don't know what to tell you, but you might be having a stroke.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
The article is wrong in ALL accounts.
The differences with other big open worlds's quests are minimal.
The writing is actually better than most modern fantasies with retarded modern language. NPCs speak as you'd imagine them in a medieval fantasy. The game is immersive thanks to, among many other things, its writing. I can't speak for the overall narrative because I haven't finished it, but the worldbuilding is very consistent.
No, they aren't. They are saying their readers that the game is not redeemable by whatever effort PA does. It's a hateful claim made by a hateful miserable person.
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Aressa
You can't die before your death
IGN is too big unfortunately. It's a struggling space but they're still the biggest in it.
Ashamam
Member
Man I hate to defend AA... but you are all basically ignoring his point. The community note does not match the article. Full stop. Fact.
Anything else is commentary on the article, not the community note.
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I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
Read my posts in this very thread
I straight up say that the note likely isn't accurate I just don't care because IGN are a bunch of cucks
I'm willing to concede on that point. Me and him were engaging on a variety of other points however, covering the substance of the article. I'm guessing that's why he himself is no longer bringing up that point with me.
I can take issue with the article and still think that the note is not accurate. And that's exactly what I said in this very thread.
The article does claim that a bunch of fixable stuff are unfixable, which is why I don't really give a shit that the note is not super accurate
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
MiguelItUp
Member
IGN is big, but it keeps happening with all the "bad" things, unfortunately. There are always threads basically saying, "Yo, this thing sucks" meanwhile giving them attention and clicks. As long as they continue to get attention they'll continue to remain. Well, and with as big as they are, they're not going to easily disappear, sadly. I'll never understand how IGN has made it this far, honestly.
I'll always remember their Alien Isolation review score, lmao.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Mentioning Cyberpunk as an example cancels whatever else is written in that article. And he does it with the sole purpose of making people believe CD is another case of a broken game on launch. You are very naive if you think people will read the full article once they see "Cyberpunk" in it.
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