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[punkmaggit]

"You know, Arya, this really is A Game of Thrones."

:lol

 

[Fliesen]

Joel: Josh Brolin or Hugh Jackman.
Ellie: Mackenzie Foy from Interstellar.

not a bad choice.

the fuck?

what don't you understand? you find her clasically pretty? or you don't see how i think that the "girl that at first sight looks like a burden in need of protection" should look like a vulnerable cute little girl? - because that's just how i think it should be cast.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Not surprising. I have upmost faith in her as well. She preforms wonderfully in GoT.

 

[Marcel]

I dunno, I felt like TLoU did its thing better than the Road movie did its thing but alas, I am but a single person. There was just more emotional weight behind everything in TLoU compared to the Road movie and I think it owes that to the 2 characters being so damn good.

I get that the characters and the interactions are the star of TLoU, don't get me wrong. Some of the moments are just hokey for me personally. Like they're trying to pull my heart strings in a cynical way in between setpieces where Joel beats people to death with a brick while Ellie is invisible.

 

[Diprosalic]

"You know, Arya, this really is A Game of Thrones."

:lol

but they did mention the title in the show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucB4UrhI-3w

 

[tringworldso]

Meh. But I agree with some of you suggesting Hugh Jackman for the role of Joel.

 

[Afrodium]

you see, it's not about looking LIKE Ellie, it's looking like a precious vulnerable flower that needs protection. (regardless of that not being the case, as the story progresses, but you think TLOU would have the same impact if Ellie had looked like this:


Maisie Williams, sadly, isn't a flower. She's fierce, she's talented. But she doesn't fit the role of Ellie because she's not clasically pretty.

You're only saying that because her most notable role is as a badass little girl. A bunch of people here seem to be under the impression that Ellie will now just be Arya Stark because Maisie Williams is playing her.

 

[Amir0x]

you see, it's not about looking LIKE Ellie, it's looking like a precious vulnerable flower that needs protection. (regardless of that not being the case, as the story progresses, but you think TLOU would have the same impact if Ellie had looked like this:


Maisie Williams, sadly, isn't a flower. She's fierce, she's talented. But she doesn't fit the role of Ellie because she's not clasically pretty.

um i don't know what 'looking like a precious vulnerable flower that needs protection' means, because I did not even remotely think Ellie looked that way and neither does Maisie and again acting is infinitely more important. Even the strongest looking of actresses can appear vulnerable and - god this is starting to sound sexist - "needing protection" if they know how to act. The "classically pretty" comment is actually close to legit offensive.

(also guys Ellie is a strong character who

Spoiler

survives on her own in the middle of the winter bringing Joel back to health; and she survived before Joel. She is not a vulnerable flower needing protection, Joel treats her that way due to his experience with his daughter.

man)

Soooo nope

 

[braves01]

Proper casting would be

Joel: Will Smith (already has experience in TLoU-type zombie movies)

Ellie: Willow Smith (rebel, see "I whip my hair back and forth")

 

[Marcel]

You're only saying that because her most notable role is as a badass little girl. A bunch of people here seem to be under the impression that Ellie will now just be Arya Stark because Maisie Williams is playing her.

Yep. They're typecasting a competent actor and assuming she has no range based on ONE role. It's simply bullshit.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Actually, that was confirmed as fanart, created by someone who worked on the game's art.

I know but that doesn't change the fact that it could be from the movie, they just don't want to reveal it yet.

No one knows anything about the movie yet so it's all just speculation for now.

 

[Drencrom]

Have you seen Prisoners? Jackman is just as brutal as Brolin in OldBoy.

Jackman would be great, but I'd personally take Josh Brolin over him anyday. He's just 'rawer' overall than Jackman and he can definitely pull off a character like Joel without it feeling forced.

see my edited post: Yes, Ellie is fierce, but she still looks like a weak little girl.

That's ultimately subjective and it really has no bearing for the game and it's story. Ellie is just a young teenager when it comes to her looks.

 

[Violence Jack]

I heard a rumor back at Comic Con when the movie was announced that they might talk to Andrew Lincoln from The Walking Dead, but I doubt that was ever true.

 

[zma1013]

Have you seen Prisoners? Jackman is just as brutal as Brolin in OldBoy.

Not yet, but I plan to. I was more thinking of Brolin from No Country anyways, he has all the same quirks and mannerisms of Joel.

 

[Philippo]

I think it would be great, Arya has a rebel-ish attitude like Ellie, so she's already got experience in that.

Get Josh Brolin or Hugh Jackman for Joel and we're golden.

 

[Marcel]

I know but that doesn't change the fact that it could be from the movie, they just don't want to reveal it yet.

Speculation is nice because you can say any old nonsense you want and then damage control it by saying, "Well it COULD be". Have you considered a career in Ain't It Cool News or fansites?

 

[Jobbs]

Not yet, but I plan to. I was more thinking of Brolin from No Country anyways, he has all the same quirks and mannerisms of Joel.

Josh Brolin always seemed like a natural fit for Joel, to me, because of No Country for Old Men. If you watch that movie -- well, that's Joel.

 

[AgentChris]

They need to cast a big star for Joel then.

 

[Drencrom]

Not yet, but I plan to. I was more thinking of Brolin from No Country anyways, he has all the same quirks and mannerisms of Joel.

Yeah, rewatching No Conutry For Old Men last year really made me think that he would be a great Joel. The perfect cast imo.

 

[Felix Lighter]

what don't you understand? you find her clasically pretty? or you don't see how i think that the "girl that at first sight looks like a burden in need of protection" should look like a vulnerable cute little girl? - because that's just how i think it should be cast.

I saw this young girl in the post apocalyptic world and at first sight I could tell she was ugly enough to fend for herself.

 

[Fliesen]

You're only saying that because her most notable role is as a badass little girl. A bunch of people here seem to be under the impression that Ellie will now just be Arya Stark because Maisie Williams is playing her.

that's the exact opposite of what i'm saying.

i am saying that Maisie williams does not have the Cuteness needed to evoke protective paternal instincts of the mostly grown-up moviegoers.
If you want the audience to be emotionally involved, you'll have to cast an actress that has the respective facial features.

"Konrad Lorenz argued in 1949 that infantile features triggered nurturing responses in adults and that this was an evolutionary adaptation which helped ensure that adults cared for their children, ultimately securing the survival of the species. Some later scientific studies have provided further evidence for Lorenz's theory."

Caregiving correlates to cuteness
A study by Karraker (1990) suggested that "an adult's beliefs about the personality and expected behavior of an infant can influence the adult's interaction with the infant"

i don't think Maisie Williams posesses said cuteness. I'm not saying she's ugly, i'm just saying she doesn't have a "cute" very "child-like" face.
Do you think they unintentionally designed Ellie the way she's portrayed in the game? She's textbook cuteness.

If someone thinks Maisie Williams offers this "cuteness", that's fine, she doesn't to me, and i don't think there's anything we can do to convince one another.

I hope i got my point across.

 

[Marcel]

They need to cast a big star for Joel then.

Yep. They can't get away with casting some Anson Mount-type guy. They need to catch a big one for this movie to get more notoriety in the public.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Speculation is nice because you can say any old nonsense you want and then damage control it by saying, "Well it COULD be". Have you considered a career in Ain't It Cool News?

I always said it could be since i don't know it. Sadly i can't see into the future and neither can you.

Edit: Ah it's that Marcel guy, i shouldn't even reply to you.

 

[zma1013]

I get that the characters and the interactions are the star of TLoU, don't get me wrong. Some of the moments are just hokey for me personally. Like they're trying to pull my heart strings in a cynical way in between setpieces where Joel beats people to death with a brick while Ellie is invisible.

I think they address Joel's brutality in the game very directly and you're supposed to feel conflicted about him, you're suppose to wonder if you think what he's done is okay or not. As for Ellie shenanigans, an unfortunate immersion breaker that was a sacrifice for the gameplay that I guess they couldn't figure out any other way to fix. That of course, wouldn't be an issue in a movie though.

 

[Amir0x]

that's the exact opposite of what i'm saying.

i am saying that Maisie williams does not have the Cuteness needed to evoke protective paternal instincts of the mostly grown-up moviegoers.
If you want the audience to be emotionally involved, you'll have to cast an actress that has the respective facial features.

jesus. these audiences members need to grow the fuck up if they really are basing that on "cute factor"

paternal instincts of "protection" do not only kick in for cute kids christ

seriously your entire argument is beyond bizarre

 

[StuBurns]

Maisie Williams, sadly, isn't a flower. She's fierce, she's talented. But she doesn't fit the role of Ellie because she's not clasically pretty.

Ellie's a kid, she doesn't have to be attractive. It's not a Bond film.

EDIT: Oh, your point was even worse than that, wow.

 

[GodzillaDB]

Hugh Jackman & Chloë Moretz. I don't believe you can do any wrong with these choices.

 

[Bomber Bob]

Why wouldn't they just get Ellen Page?

She hates the last of us

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

"You know, Arya, this really is A Game of Thrones."

.

 

[Fliesen]

Ellie's a kid, she doesn't have to be attractive. It's not a Bond film.

see my post. Classically "pretty" was the wrong way to put it. "classically cute" i should have said, and i stick with that.

EDIT: Oh, your point was even worse than that, wow.

that's not nice. Now I won't have any protective instincts towards you when the apocalypse comes, you know that, right?

 

[Marcel]

I always said it could be since i don't know it. Sadly i can't see into the future and neither can you.

Edit: Ah it's that Marcel guy, i shouldn't even reply to you.

You're free to use your ignore button instead of this passive-aggressive personal commentary no one gives a shit about.

I think they address Joel's brutality in the game very directly and you're supposed to feel conflicted about him, you're suppose to wonder if you think what he's done is okay or not. As for Ellie shenanigans, an unfortunate immersion breaker that was a sacrifice for the gameplay that I guess they couldn't figure out any other way to fix. That of course, wouldn't be an issue in a movie though.

I understand what they went for. I simply didn't think it was the earth-shattering narrative many others thought. It's a fine game, just not the second coming.

 

[turnbuckle]

She's a phenomenal actress and this actually makes me more likely to be interesting in seeing the movie, despite my NO VIDEOGAME MOVIE rule.

Same here

 

[Sn4ke_911]

She hates the last of us

because they used her face without paying her.

So yeah, Ellen Page is not happening.

You're free to use your ignore button instead of this passive-aggressive personal commentary no one gives a shit about.

Looks like you gave a shit about and no i don't ignore people.

 

[YuriLowell]

.

There are a few great moments in the TLOU that use interactivity, but they are drowned out by the far more frequent pointlessly interactive bits.

Take all the best parts of TLOU (the story, the characters, the writing) and turn it into the miniseries it deserves.

So the best parts of TLOU are the parts where you don't actually play it?

 

[Drencrom]

She hates the last of us

Probably because it took big fat dump on Beyond two souls and was better in every aspect lol

 

[Schryver]

"You know, Arya, this really is A Game of Thrones."

omg rofl

 

[Sesha]

No interest in The Last Walrus the game, but if Maisie is in this, then I might watch it. Doubly so if Josh Brolin, Viggo Mortensen or Huge Jackedman is cast as Joel.

 

[ChamplooJones]

Get it Maisie! Girl can dance.

 

[xaosslug]

lol, no.

 

[Jobbs]

jesus. these audiences members need to grow the fuck up if they really are basing that on "cute factor"

paternal instincts of "protection" do not only kick in for cute kids christ

seriously your entire argument is beyond bizarre

it's a hard topic to broach because I don't like dissecting or criticizing the appearance of real people -- I'm not comfortable with it.

But, suffice it to say, I do, from a certain point of view, understand where he's coming from. If you look at Ellie's design, it's as if she was developed in a lab by our best scientists to have the most archetypal "cute" babyface possible.

I won't agree that you must have a character look this way in order to fit the role or be an empathetic character. I am not saying that at all. And I'm not comfortable dissecting or criticizing the appearance of real people. But, suffice it to say, Ellie's in game model was designed quite deliberately to be "maximum cute", for lack of better words.

 

[prag16]

Wtf at all the "lol no" type posts in this topic.

How the hell do you all know she'd do a bad job portraying Ellie?

EDIT:

lol, no.

And yeah, literally SECONDS before I made this post... -_-

EDIT2: Oh my... -_-

Maisie williams is a great young actress and I'm sure she's a great person, but she doesn't invoke any "paternal protection instincts" in me, because she's ... uhm ...
not a particularly pretty / cute girl.

i do believe the fact that Ellie is clasically "cute" and makes her a lot more "protectable".

 

[AuthenticM]

Maisie williams is a great young actress and I'm sure she's a great person, but she doesn't invoke any "paternal protection instincts" in me, because she's ... uhm ...
not a particularly pretty / cute girl.

i do believe the fact that Ellie is clasically "cute" and makes her a lot more "protectable".

She doesn't have to look like Ellie. But big puppydog eyes would sure help to pull the strings - like AnnaSophia Robb in Race to Witch mountain; or Natalie Portman in Leon.

holy shit lol

 

[zma1013]

The difficult part would be convincing Josh Brolin or Hugh Jackman to do a videogame movie because of the deserving bad reputation videogame movies have had.

 

[Mashin Haters]

I kinda want this to happen too, people are saying she can't pass as 14 anymore, but I think if she really wanted to she could. Give me Hugh Jackman too and I'm down with this movie.

ugh that cast would be way too over the top hollywood...

 

[Marcel]

Probably because it took big fat dump on Beyond two souls and was better in every aspect lol

I don't see how a limited interaction and mostly laughable Quantic Dream adventure game and a self-serious third-person shooter are comparable.

 

[PuMa]

Wtf at all the "lol no" type posts in this topic.

How the hell do you all know she'd do a bad job portraying Ellie?

EDIT:


And yeah, literally SECONDS before I made this post... -_-

EDIT2: Oh my... -_-

Yeah, this thread is a pile of garbage, unfortunately.

 

[Briarios]

that's the exact opposite of what i'm saying.

i am saying that Maisie williams does not have the Cuteness needed to evoke protective paternal instincts of the mostly grown-up moviegoers.
If you want the audience to be emotionally involved, you'll have to cast an actress that has the respective facial features.





i don't think Maisie Williams posesses said cuteness. I'm not saying she's ugly, i'm just saying she doesn't have a "cute" very "child-like" face.
Do you think they unintentionally designed Ellie the way she's portrayed in the game? She's textbook cuteness.

If someone thinks Maisie Williams offers this "cuteness", that's fine, she doesn't to me, and i don't think there's anything we can do to convince one another.

I hope i got my point across.

They designed Ellie for the role by sitting around and going, "Hey, you know who would be great for this part? Ellen Page!"

I'd also like to a citation for the textbook you're getting your definition of cuteness from.

 

[Dereck]

Maisie Williams, sadly, isn't a flower. She's fierce, she's talented. But she doesn't fit the role of Ellie because she's not clasically pretty.

 

[Savantcore]

Jake Gylenhaal for Joel

 

[marrec]

The difficult part would be convincing Josh Brolin or Hugh Jackman to do a videogame movie because of the deserving bad reputation videogame movies have had.

Well casting Maisie Williams will help with that.