Holy Order Sol
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IGN Versus Results E3 2014: Nintendo Wins Everything
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ShockingAlberto
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This might be too deep a cut for people to get.
shinobi602
Member
Nintendo definitely brought the heat this year, lots of fantastic looking titles coming down the line.
Sony/MS games interest me more at this point in my life but I'm looking forward to picking up a Wii U next year.
Sony/MS games interest me more at this point in my life but I'm looking forward to picking up a Wii U next year.
I laughed.
It's a term that refers to a very specific attitude, and the name is derived from an event where that attitude existed. The term is not a direct reference to the actions that took place, but rather an attitude. It feels like you're getting offended about something for purely unfair reasoning. If you want to continue this argument, we can have it over PM because this is clearly not the place or time.
At the very least, I thank you for having a coherent argument with me using actual discussion points, unlike the number of people in this thread who insulted my original post to various degrees without even a secure, remotely thought-out response.
tylerh1701
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I thought Nintendo's did a really good job this year. The sheer amount of games shown at the MS and Sony show (Arkham Knight, Destiny, Far Cry 4, AC Unity, The Division, and more) just had me drooling more.
I thought all 3 companies had really good press conferences/shows and I don't remember saying that in the last few years.
I thought all 3 companies had really good press conferences/shows and I don't remember saying that in the last few years.
DXB-KNIGHT
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So democracy states that Nintendo won E3, Sounds right 
Very surprised by the amount of love Nintendo is getting for their show. I thought Microsoft and Sony eclipsed Nintendo in terms of quality gaming content. Hyrule Warriors looked awful to me, Splatoon looked good to very good but not exactly riveting. The only real star of the show was Zelda which was expected, but shown in such limited capacity.
When you have considerably less multiplatform and indie content to show off, you really need to bring a hell of a lot more on the exclusives front, especially with respect to new IP or surprises, of which there were barely any.
When you have considerably less multiplatform and indie content to show off, you really need to bring a hell of a lot more on the exclusives front, especially with respect to new IP or surprises, of which there were barely any.
I love how they didn't get the Mother 3 joke where they're just shitting on the press.
Has there ever been an e3 in which sales for any console skyrocketed in the next month or two?
Serious question. Obvious I am not meaning launch of a console.
yes, but only when it coincided with a price drop or the release of a new model (or both).
i think wii u sales will be up month over month and year over year, but mostly due to mario kart 8's brief popularity.
Oh thank god
I don't actually know any news or journalists that did get that joke. As if the big sign that said E3 PRESS was too subtle...
Man don't remind me.
I don't get how you can love 3 and a half hours worth of cgi teasers, but not like hours of real gameplay. But this is summed up by Zelda being note worthy for you, even though it had the least amount of air time out of every single game they showed. Don't get the quality remark either, unless you mean strictly graphically.
Mysterious
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You do know, all of these, were greenlit during the Wii/DS era right? And they were financed with Wii profits? Hell since they lost a lot of money this generation, the budgets would be appropriately scaled down for the new wave of titles greenlit right???
Pitch Black Flint
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Of course sales are important. I do not understand video games and I even feel angry because, at award announcements, the announcers always discuss things relating to video games or such childish topics as 'who had the best show at E3,' while I, for one, was flabbergasted that gaming sites continue to announce results of polls although they said that they would stop if the company that wins does not translate into unit sells.
Good show, Nintendo. ; )
I also agree that CGI trailers are crappy and need to get far less air time, but by the same token they also give me a glimpse of what to expect, or at least the premise of a new game or IP. Long as I'm getting a new game that's the main thing.
And I didn't like Zelda the most necessarily because of what they showed (which was too minute), rather the legacy behind the game coupled with the open world angle and aesthetic, just filled me with more excitement for it.
And saying the other shows were 3 and a half hours of CGI trailers is somewhat disingenuous. Whilst there were a lot of CGI trailers (too many), there was still a lot of gameplay (albeit mainly multiplatform) shown too, maybe more in fact than in Nintendo's.
not_so_special
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nintendo fans and their Optimism and Enthusiasm...they are so cute
But that's a false promise half the time, or have the backlash threads on this forum not gotten your attention? Nintendo should be commended for showing purely gameplay, except Zelda of course. Especially in this world of in-engine bullshot teasers.
I can guarantee this, as I don't know if Nintendo showed a game that wasn't exclusive, and I appreciate that. I don't need to see 3rd party games to get a system, I need exclusives to get the system, otherwise I'd stick to PC.
A game is a game at the end of the day. Doesn't matter if it's exclusive or not so long as it's great. Anything else is just semantics.
And the PC argument doesn't always cut it because many people don't game on PC, and some multiplatform games aren't releasing on PC either, Eg Destiny.
If people are expecting games to look as good as CGI, they're simply being naive.
And the only recent backlash threads on downgrades that I can remember were Forza 5, WatchDogs and Dark Souls 2, which had nothing to do with CGI, but instead graphical downgrades in actual gameplay footage.
A game is a game, but if someone is spending time selling someone else's work instead of their own, I think they have nothing to show. A 30 second clip of what Bloodborne could be some day doesn't cut it.
Thank goodness for my PS3 then. But who cares, because I don't want Destiny. And there are a million and one games to replace even the best that console games has to offer, so yes it does cut it. My $150 laptop can play indies and any AAA game released before 2013, so I think I'll be fine.
So I'm not supposed to expect Uncharted 4 to look like that even though they claim it's in-engine at 60fps? Why would they waste their time then? ANd why would you give merit to such blatant lies if thats the case.
Which makes it far worse. Especially since all 3 were supposed to be 'true' next gen experiences, and specifically boasted about their graphical prowess. But continue to think that has as much weight as the hours of real gameplay from almost every single game Nintendo announced.
While I would love to believe what u said there, I would like to ask for the source of your info there. Sure it is financed with wii profits but hey, all company did that. 360 profit is used to make sure One exist just like how Uncharted profit is used for Tlou.
However on how all their games being greenlight during Wii/DS era? I can't believe it at all. As that time has past by for quite some time and we did see Ninty keep pumping out games and games here. StarFox? Two Project series game?
I would said while sales is important, it will not be the all in all deciding point on developing game for Wii U.
Aww, u are so special. ^_^
protomouse
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If Nintendo does well in mindshare, it's about sales.
If Nintendo does well in sales, it's about mindshare.
To some people, they just can't succeed.
Yes, it's just an Internet poll with little credence. However, it's not the first time Nintendo have been praised with having the best E3 performance - and IMO deservedly so. It's not so much about what they presented but how they presented it. As someone who felt iffy about their withdrawal from stage presence last year, they completely turned it around and convinced me that press conferences are irrelevant when you can have a well-produced video introduction followed by days of livestreaming gameplay and developer commentary. They've made great efforts to bring the experience of being at E3 to where it belongs: the gamers, who are otherwise not welcome at the industry's arguably largest happening. They never strayed from talking about gaming, they kept it witty and entertaining - and not a single jab at the competition was made. That deserves substantial commendation from me, for delivering the best E3 presentation I've seen to date.
If Nintendo does well in sales, it's about mindshare.
To some people, they just can't succeed.
Yes, it's just an Internet poll with little credence. However, it's not the first time Nintendo have been praised with having the best E3 performance - and IMO deservedly so. It's not so much about what they presented but how they presented it. As someone who felt iffy about their withdrawal from stage presence last year, they completely turned it around and convinced me that press conferences are irrelevant when you can have a well-produced video introduction followed by days of livestreaming gameplay and developer commentary. They've made great efforts to bring the experience of being at E3 to where it belongs: the gamers, who are otherwise not welcome at the industry's arguably largest happening. They never strayed from talking about gaming, they kept it witty and entertaining - and not a single jab at the competition was made. That deserves substantial commendation from me, for delivering the best E3 presentation I've seen to date.
Last post responding. In order of your paragraphs.
1. It's not about selling someone else's work, it's about selling gamers what they can play on their system. And if that's a crap load of multiplatform games, a crap load of indie games, and small number of exclusives, that's still better to many than just a small number of exclusives on their own.
2. That same exact argument could be applied to the Wii U. There are a million and one games on the PC to replace what you play on your Wii U too, what matters is what games you want to play, and whether you want to play the ones on the newer systems, and with better graphics, frame rates etc too.
3. Uncharted 4's trailer wasn't CGI. So your point sort of falls on its face here. It was a cut scene. Logic tells me gameplay will look similar but probably not quite as good, but that'll still be plenty good enough for me, and still enough to make it the best looking game any where on any system (imo).
4. Do you care about top tier graphics or not? Seeing as you're a primarily Wii U gamer, I'm assuming you care more for gameplay than you do graphics, and the same applies here. Does it suck bad that these games got a graphical downgrade? Sure. Is it shady of the devs/publishers? Sure.
But the important factor is how they ended up playing and looking, and they still ended up playing and looking solid.
And as I said above, I wouldn't be surprised if the others showed more real gameplay than Nintendo did. Don't confuse no gameplay with gameplay that you didn't care to see.
For you, the day Nintendo graced E3 was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.
Let Nintendo have this victory. They've had a hard life, Iwata is ill, Miyamoto hasn't made a good game since the 90s and the Wii U is the definition of a turd guzzler. While the rest of are experiencing our lives, growing older and playing as a hobby. for these fans Nintendo IS there life, they were born playing Nintendo games, and they will die doing so. Nintendo fans are not real people as they will not experience the ride that we know as life.
So yes, Nintendo has won E3, but we have won life.
Let Nintendo have this victory. They've had a hard life, Iwata is ill, Miyamoto hasn't made a good game since the 90s and the Wii U is the definition of a turd guzzler. While the rest of are experiencing our lives, growing older and playing as a hobby. for these fans Nintendo IS there life, they were born playing Nintendo games, and they will die doing so. Nintendo fans are not real people as they will not experience the ride that we know as life.
So yes, Nintendo has won E3, but we have won life.
Askherserenity
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I thought Vita means life. Sony got some 'splaining to do.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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I'm scared to ask what we Sega fans are at this point.
Deputy Moonman
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Nintendo had a good showing, but I think the "they destroyed everything" comments are a little obnoxious. It's all up to personal preference and I'd argue all 3 conferences were solid.
Not surprising Nintendo won everything; them and Microsoft were the only 'major' companies to really kill it this E3 
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Both had some really great games at the show (Microsoft having Ori and Sunset), while Nintendo had, well, tons of killer games to show. They even took it a step up with having the games be shown with full-on gameplay (maybe the only exception was Zelda U).
Not to mention, they had the whole Smash Invitational, Treehouse Live and a really well thought out and paced Digital Event (the robot chicken skits in there were awesome and having the Mii Characters be shown off in Smash with Regge and Iwata dukeing it out was priceless XD!), which really made them the star of the entire E3 event to me.
Oddly, Sony showed....nothing :l. Sure, we finally got Beast Souls (now called Bloodborn) fully announced, some proof that Uncharted 4 isn't dead, a new LBP game and ensurence that Indies will continue to flood the PS Family of systems....but it just felt hollow to me. I was expecting much more new IP out of Sony at E3 and some revivals of classic PS1/PS2 franchise (where was Ape Escape and Parapa for Vita? Where was Dark Cloud for PS4? Where is a god damn Wipeout game for the PS4?!). Not to mention they didn't even show off any new IP from their many studios....which were pulled from Vita development (GC, Sony Japan, MM, Sony Bend....they did amazing work with the Vita
...), to make PS4 games.
So, where are those games Sony? You know the ones you said the PS4 would have.... I will stop before I get more negative but point is Sony disapointed me big time this E3 (shame, I really wanted to be excited about the PS4 too...).
At least Nintendo killed it and Microsoft had a great show (Ori was amazing to look at and Sunset Overdrive looks like a utter blast to play!), so that was good in the long run .
. Both had some really great games at the show (Microsoft having Ori and Sunset), while Nintendo had, well, tons of killer games to show
. They even took it a step up with having the games be shown with full-on gameplay (maybe the only exception was Zelda U). Not to mention, they had the whole Smash Invitational, Treehouse Live and a really well thought out and paced Digital Event (the robot chicken skits in there were awesome and having the Mii Characters be shown off in Smash with Regge and Iwata dukeing it out was priceless XD!), which really made them the star of the entire E3 event to me.
Oddly, Sony showed....nothing :l. Sure, we finally got Beast Souls (now called Bloodborn) fully announced, some proof that Uncharted 4 isn't dead, a new LBP game and ensurence that Indies will continue to flood the PS Family of systems....but it just felt hollow to me. I was expecting much more new IP out of Sony at E3 and some revivals of classic PS1/PS2 franchise (where was Ape Escape and Parapa for Vita? Where was Dark Cloud for PS4? Where is a god damn Wipeout game for the PS4?!). Not to mention they didn't even show off any new IP from their many studios....which were pulled from Vita development (GC, Sony Japan, MM, Sony Bend....they did amazing work with the Vita
...), to make PS4 games.So, where are those games Sony? You know the ones you said the PS4 would have.... I will stop before I get more negative but point is Sony disapointed me big time this E3 (shame, I really wanted to be excited about the PS4 too
...). At least Nintendo killed it and Microsoft had a great show (Ori was amazing to look at and Sunset Overdrive looks like a utter blast to play
!), so that was good in the long run .This is kind of my point, Watch Dogs was in game as well, billed a graphical showcase, and it comes out looking not at all that way.
I do have my ps3, so I do pay attention to multiplat and will get a PS4 day 1 for MGS, as I do with every playstation, but I can't get excited for inengine. Aliens:CM was a harbinger for things to come, and though no other company will most likely ever be that blatant about it, FROM came pretty close, and I still think they were playing something that never was the game. I had the game preordered, and I still haven't bought it.
But how games end up is only partly what this is about, as E3 is all about first impressions, and if you start off with a lie, most of the time, you will never ever please people. And publishers are monetarily incentivized to be dishonest and show
And just so you know, they didn't show more than Nintendo, so you can stop thinking it.
Nintendojitsu
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HyruleGuardian
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People have a misperception about Wii U. The fact is that the Wii U doesn't need to be a huge success for Nintendo to continue to produce game systems for years to come. And since that's the case, weak sales are far less important than the fact that Nintendo is building a great catalogue of games for people who are Nintendo fans.
The 3DS has sold 45 million units and counting. The Wii U, like many consoles before it, is going to be doing better business now that its killer apps are arriving. Wii U sales in May were up like 500% over April due to the release of Mario Kart, despite the fact that Mario Kart was released on May 30th. We do not yet have sales data for June, the first full month with Mario Kart on the market (and the E3 conference, although that's of far less significance when it comes to sales).
Nintendo is not going to be capturing the "casual" market like they did with the Wii, but what they will do is manage to convince the millions of core Nintendo fans who had previously withheld their purchase of the Wii U to eventually buy one. And they'll have a nice market for families that want family friendly console.
Is the Wii U going to end up being a financial success for Nintendo? Of course not. But will it be successful enough to ensure that the Wii U is not the last console Nintendo will make? I would say that's highly likely.
The 3DS has sold 45 million units and counting. The Wii U, like many consoles before it, is going to be doing better business now that its killer apps are arriving. Wii U sales in May were up like 500% over April due to the release of Mario Kart, despite the fact that Mario Kart was released on May 30th. We do not yet have sales data for June, the first full month with Mario Kart on the market (and the E3 conference, although that's of far less significance when it comes to sales).
Nintendo is not going to be capturing the "casual" market like they did with the Wii, but what they will do is manage to convince the millions of core Nintendo fans who had previously withheld their purchase of the Wii U to eventually buy one. And they'll have a nice market for families that want family friendly console.
Is the Wii U going to end up being a financial success for Nintendo? Of course not. But will it be successful enough to ensure that the Wii U is not the last console Nintendo will make? I would say that's highly likely.
Nintendo has only lost a little bit of money this generation. A pittance compared to the amount of money it's competitors lose every year. They have already announced that their consoles are profitable again already. The budgets for Nintendo games are not changing any time soon. That is pretty much guaranteed.
thesolidshark
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I'm glad Nintendo won that poll as I agree with them winning in those categories.
Yeah, I'd want to say that it would just be people arguing over the format of digital vs. live press conference, but bringing sales up (though common for Wii U talk) was strange because I don't think any presenters are going to see a big increase in sales from this E3, maybe with the exception of Nintendo and Wii U.
Yeah, I'd want to say that it would just be people arguing over the format of digital vs. live press conference, but bringing sales up (though common for Wii U talk) was strange because I don't think any presenters are going to see a big increase in sales from this E3, maybe with the exception of Nintendo and Wii U.
Is this one of those "I dont know about you but Im a expert"-things? I cant tell any more, nothing brings out the saltiest crazy like a feelgood nintendo-thread :3
foxuzamaki
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hahaha
protomouse
Member
Well I'm really surprised by IGN's results. I thought they would have gone third just based on IGN's readership which to me doesn't seem to favor Nintendo votes.
It also helped that voting took forever with those endless videos. But a great impression is a great impression. Go Ninty!
It also helped that voting took forever with those endless videos. But a great impression is a great impression. Go Ninty!
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I know your post is sarcasm, but Pikmin 3 is one of the best games ever made and a Miyamoto game.
You DO know you are banned from future shareholders meetings, right? Damn ninjas, can execute big targets but can't keep the bad elements from asking questions.
I agree. It was a great e3 for them
Basketball
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I got it as my free game and it definitely is the definitive Pikmin game to date. Love it to pieces.
OuterLimits
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I went into E3 with low expectations. The last Nintendo console I played was the SNES in the 90s. I did impulse buy a Wii U and 3DS during the Winter and while I was enjoying games like Pikmin 3 and ZombiU, I was uncertain what the future held for the Wii U.
Honestly, the Treehouse presentation really got me hyped for Nintendo games for the first time in 20 years. While I was looking forward to the new Xenoblade, watching them play it makes it a Day 1 purchase for me. Hyrule Warriors looks fun, and Splatoon was a great surprise. Captain Toad looks like a game my wife and I will have a blast playing.
Even the Zelda teaser excited me, and I haven't played Zelda since the original when it was released in the 80s. Since E3 though, I have purchased the Zelda 3DS games. I'm quite enjoying A Link between Worlds.
I don't really care if they "won" E3 or not, but they got me excited about future releases on their systems.
Honestly, the Treehouse presentation really got me hyped for Nintendo games for the first time in 20 years. While I was looking forward to the new Xenoblade, watching them play it makes it a Day 1 purchase for me. Hyrule Warriors looks fun, and Splatoon was a great surprise. Captain Toad looks like a game my wife and I will have a blast playing.
Even the Zelda teaser excited me, and I haven't played Zelda since the original when it was released in the 80s. Since E3 though, I have purchased the Zelda 3DS games. I'm quite enjoying A Link between Worlds.
I don't really care if they "won" E3 or not, but they got me excited about future releases on their systems.