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IGN: Vita is destined to sell better than 3DS
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I don't think it is entirely wrong to suggest that on raw power alone the vita far outclasses the 3DS. It is much more gimmicky, both in branding and I dare say software.
However, I think its equally important to stress that Nintendo know better than anyone, even Apple, how to make handhelds appealing for everyone, not just the hardcore and Gadget enthusiasts.
finally, anyone who believes IGN's opinion is anything but "whatever needs to be said to get more clicks" is a moron. Its way too early to be comparing either platform on anything but pure specs.
However, I think its equally important to stress that Nintendo know better than anyone, even Apple, how to make handhelds appealing for everyone, not just the hardcore and Gadget enthusiasts.
finally, anyone who believes IGN's opinion is anything but "whatever needs to be said to get more clicks" is a moron. Its way too early to be comparing either platform on anything but pure specs.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
FFX, MGS, Persona 4, ZOE... Certainly not "virtually all" there are many more original titles (or not quite ports, like LBP, Wipeout, etc, or remakes like the Tales of game, which do count if OoT 3D also counts) but no real system sellers for the most part. But yeah, it's silly to point out comparable 3DS games with negative connotations.VanWinkle said:
Cerebral Assassin
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NateDrake said:
Exclusive weapons etc., that are unlockable & will transfer over to your PS3?
The Abominable Snowman
Member
PSP sold 60+ million hardware, with an average of over 4 games per console. Not too shabby at all. Certainly proving that there IS a market for more 'hardcore', capable devices in the market. Additionally, the PSP faced many more hurdles than the Vita ever will. Cellphone gaming was just as strong then as it was now in Japan and overseas, yet it managed to do well. The PSP had a pretty tough situation from the start, where third parties were reluctant to give it much of a chance.
Vita seems to have 3rd parties support from the start, particularly in Japan where the PSP once had many weeks of only 1 or no title releases early in its life.
It also has a great tech edge over the 3DS and all other smartphone releases. It would take smartphone gaming years to catch up to the divide. Outside a handful of games, smartphone gaming has yet to even catch up to the PSP's graphical output.
I have faith that the Vita will do much better than the PSP, and the 3DS will do much worse than the DS. Where that stream crosses I have no idea.
Vita seems to have 3rd parties support from the start, particularly in Japan where the PSP once had many weeks of only 1 or no title releases early in its life.
It also has a great tech edge over the 3DS and all other smartphone releases. It would take smartphone gaming years to catch up to the divide. Outside a handful of games, smartphone gaming has yet to even catch up to the PSP's graphical output.
I have faith that the Vita will do much better than the PSP, and the 3DS will do much worse than the DS. Where that stream crosses I have no idea.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
VanWinkle said:
Final Fantasy X
Persona 4
BlazBlue
Disgaea 3
Little King's Story
MGS collection
Ys IV
Tales of Innocence R
Outside of ToI, they all seem good, but these are most of the big games for the Vita other than Uncharted and Gravity Rush...And the ports aren't even exclusive to the Vita.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
While those techniques have proven effective, I think there's a limit to how much you can sell with them, and I'm pretty sure that limit is far beneath being able to convince a person to buy an entire gaming system for a few exclusive perks.Cerebral Assassin said:
cagelessrat
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This is amazing to me. It's 2011 and we're still fighting like it's 1994. I'm going to own both handhelds, and I really don't care which one sells more as long as they both sell enough to stay alive.
So I need to buy 2 copies of the game to get exclusive weapons. That also creates separation between users who don't own a Vita. Going to charge $40 DLC to get the same content? All of it is nice in concept but is it really feasible?Cerebral Assassin said:
Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan of Vita but I'll only be buying Vita exclusive titles. Not buying UMvC3, Zone, MGS, etc. on Vita if I can have a better time with them on my PS3/Xbox 360.
frankie_baby
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If some people believe that cod vita will be a killer app for it is it really inconceivable that cod 3ds (which is surely inevitable and I'm rather surprised there isn't one this year) could actually out sell it, I mean its quite possible the 3ds may have 3 or 4 times the userbase by the time next years cod games come out
BroHuffman said:
Honestly no. The portable landscape has changed. People dont really care about graphics with their portables. Why would a COD player spend the 250 dollars for a Vita, Plus the game, and the memory card, to play portable COD when he can just spend 59.99 for their console version?
The whole "PSP VITA CAN RUN COD!" thing, is a carbon copy of GTA on Psp. The big "franchise" that will someone make the PSP sell enough to beat the DS. It didnt then, and theres little reason to believe a hypotethical COD will now.
The Vitas success or faliure will not be tied to its graphical power, or lesser ports of popular console games.
People are forgetting DS was a juggernaut for many reasons that don't apply now. One of the main reasons was innovation, due to the touchscreen controls. Well this is nothing new anymore, and Vita also has touchscreen now. With the 3DS there is no new innovation except for 3D which isn't as big as touchscreen. The DS was also a juggernaut, due to the casual appeal, however a lot of the casuals could potentially be happy with smartphone games now, for example why buy Nintendogs, when you can buy a knock off pet simulator on iOS. This is why Nintendo are focussing more on harcore gamers.
I also have to say that I would prefer the Vita to be more succesfull, due Sony making a much better bit of hardware. The Vita doesn't have the problems that PSP had such as no touchscreen, one crappy analog nub, UMDs with load times and etc. While the 3DS is terrible compared to DS, with the DS it was such an awesome bit of hardware, touch screen and dual screen was innovative, the the symmetry of the system where you can hold it side ways and etc. Where as 3DS, it is like a abomination in hardware design, you have screens that are low res, the top screen is bigger which means book mode is ruined, and gameplay between 2 screens is not as cool if both screens are not the same size. The bottom screen is touch but the main gameplay takes place at the top, which means we don't get to directly touch game environments like many DS games like Kirby Canvas Curse, Trauma Centre Zelda and etc. There is no symetry so left had players are kind of fucked, and adding a add on analog is quite ridiculous when it ashould have been there in the first place. And lets not get starting on the the online infrastructure.
Basically the 3DS is not the cool followup of how 3DS, it is more like a mashup of DS and PSP, the focus is taken away from what made DS so unique and cool (book mode, touching the game enviroment).
However if I had to predict sales, I expect 3DS will still outsell Vita, due to it having Mario, Pokemon, Monster Hunter Mario Kart and etc, however I don't think it will have anywhere near the success of DS, personally even though Vita will get outsold, I hope it still does good enough and has a nice variety of cool games.
I also have to say that I would prefer the Vita to be more succesfull, due Sony making a much better bit of hardware. The Vita doesn't have the problems that PSP had such as no touchscreen, one crappy analog nub, UMDs with load times and etc. While the 3DS is terrible compared to DS, with the DS it was such an awesome bit of hardware, touch screen and dual screen was innovative, the the symmetry of the system where you can hold it side ways and etc. Where as 3DS, it is like a abomination in hardware design, you have screens that are low res, the top screen is bigger which means book mode is ruined, and gameplay between 2 screens is not as cool if both screens are not the same size. The bottom screen is touch but the main gameplay takes place at the top, which means we don't get to directly touch game environments like many DS games like Kirby Canvas Curse, Trauma Centre Zelda and etc. There is no symetry so left had players are kind of fucked, and adding a add on analog is quite ridiculous when it ashould have been there in the first place. And lets not get starting on the the online infrastructure.
Basically the 3DS is not the cool followup of how 3DS, it is more like a mashup of DS and PSP, the focus is taken away from what made DS so unique and cool (book mode, touching the game enviroment).
However if I had to predict sales, I expect 3DS will still outsell Vita, due to it having Mario, Pokemon, Monster Hunter Mario Kart and etc, however I don't think it will have anywhere near the success of DS, personally even though Vita will get outsold, I hope it still does good enough and has a nice variety of cool games.
Cerebral Assassin
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NateDrake said:
I guess we will find out within the next year.
madmaxx350
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Grecco said:
Not saying anything about how COD on Vita will be since we haven't even seen anything about the game, well except the logo, but if it's anything like the PSP GTA which were at the time exclusive and not "Lesser ports" that I enjoyed playing, I'll buy and enjoy it so yea I guess I do care about "Bolded Part" and if it's done right i'll even double dip.
Uno Venova
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The DS beat the PSP so that's guaranteed to happen this time with the Vita and 3DS because history always repeats itself, can we not talk about this now guys?
I fully agree with IGN on this. After all, this is what they said about the PSP outselling the DS and the PS3 outselling the Wii, and they cited similar reasons for both. Considering they were right both times, why should I not trust their word this time? Their track record is immaculate! If they say the Vita will sell more than the 3DS, and that the 3DS has no games, then they are right! Nintendo is doomed! Doomed, I tell you!
Boney said:
Sorry that paragraph is just my opinion, the last paragraph I actually states why I think 3DS will outsell the Vita is because of software (Mario, Pokemon, Monster Hunter and etc).
However, sometimes the hardware itself affect software. Would Wii have been a huge success to casuals if it wasn't for motion controls, would we have gotten killer apps like Wii Sports. Would DS be as successful if it didn't have touchscreen, would we get games like Brain Age, Nintendogs and etc if it weasn't for the hardware. What about 360, if MS didn't push Live as much on 360, would we have all those awesom online games. Hardware sometimes makes games, you have to think are many types of games possible on 3DS, can we get a game that renders many enemies on screen with complex ai or is 3DS too weak for this. Will some games have online not being the focus due to 3DS's online infrastructure not being as good as say Live. Will we get a game like Kirby Canvas Curse on 3DS or do developers prefer to focus on the bigger 3D screen.
Woo-Fu
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The simple reason you'd want to play CoD on your Vita as opposed to your home console is because it is much easier to take the Vita with you wherever you go.
After living in NYC for 10 years the appeal of having near-console quality on a handheld is instant and obvious. Might be harder to grasp for the people who never game anywhere except for the comfy couch in their living room.
After living in NYC for 10 years the appeal of having near-console quality on a handheld is instant and obvious. Might be harder to grasp for the people who never game anywhere except for the comfy couch in their living room.
Uno Venova
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Good minds think alike then, but your kidding yourself if you don't think this argument comes up anytime people bring up the Vita selling more than the 3DS.rpmurphy said:
Onion_Relish
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cw_sasuke said:
Even though I might not prefer the wii or ds to the xbox/ps3/psp, this quote is so wrong it hurts me physically.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I don't see any Kirbys on Vitacw_sasuke said:
bgassassin
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Plinko said:
madmaxx350
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NateDrake said:
You say it like there isn't a way to remedy that. It' also possible we might see a competent COD on 3DS and that hardware has it's share of problem with battery life, heck which recent portable hardware hasn't with the state of battery tech?
Plus seriously, 2hrs? Give it at least 3 lol.