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I'm a Bit Worried about Mass Effect: Andromeda

I fit the lack of propper promotional videos worring myself but I'm too much of a sucker for the universe to let this one pass, even if it ends up being mediocre - which I honestly doubt that it will. The brand is too important for EA and Bioware to ruin.
 
Sanctuary said:
This is actually the inverse of The Witcher 3's narrative. It's actually, The Witcher 3:Save the Cheerleader, Save the World: Instead Let's Play The Witcher Simulator!

Didn't seem to bother too many people I guess.
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Back-In-Black said:
The Witcher 2 & 3 seemed to manage, I think ME:A will be fine. I don't want or need another "save the galaxy" plot and/or stop the big bad evil. They've done that to death.
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Maybe you all need to actually see the Witcher 3 Story trailer marketing.

Here's a hint
  • Big Bad: Check
  • Impending Doom: Check
  • Putzing around an open world: Oh Hells Nah!
 
I'm pretty worried about its quality. This gen has been a total disappointment for me so far and I feel like ME:A is like the last thing that can somewhat salvage it (Mass Effect 1 and 2 were some of my favorite games of last gen).
 
Scale is my concern here. We are talking about space exploration but the first 3 ME had tiny areas, even combined they felt smaller than TW3... Blah.

Im not convinced that Bioware can do better with the short development time of Andromeda.
 
longdi said:
Scale is my concern here. We are talking about space exploration but the first 3 ME had tiny areas, even combined they felt smaller than TW3... Blah.

Im not convinced that Bioware can do better with the short development time of Andromeda.
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They've had 5 years to work on Andromeda since ME3 released. Also, I expect the zones to be larger than DA:I since the primary mode of getting around planets is a land rover which goes pretty fast compared to the slow horse of DA:I. It just makes sense that the scale of the zones would have to be larger by default.
 
alt27 said:
I like to stay away from alot of heavy coverage of this game. I want to go in without too many spoilers. I like bioware games and the trailers I saw have shown me enough to preorder. Pretty confident this will be the best entry into the ME series. Combat looks great (just like ME3 MP), and if the story delivers then we have a winner
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My biggest concern. I haven't seen anything to indicate an engaging story, but I'd love to be wrong.
 
longdi said:
Scale is my concern here. We are talking about space exploration but the first 3 ME had tiny areas, even combined they felt smaller than TW3... Blah.

Im not convinced that Bioware can do better with the short development time of Andromeda.
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short development time of Andromeda.
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Drewfonse said:
My biggest concern. I haven't seen anything to indicate an engaging story, but I'd love to be wrong.
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Have any of the Mass Effect marketing ever really gone into story?

I veintly remember the marketing for the first game to be basically: "Yo Bioware is making a space opera star trek-like game"
 
Nictel said:
Have any of the Mass Effect marketing ever really gone into story?

I veintly remember the marketing for the first game to be basically: "Yo Bioware is making a space opera star trek-like game"
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?

Each game's launch trailers have.

Which, by the way, I have high expectations for. Mass Effect delivers incredible launch trailers.
 
EventHorizon said:
Maybe you all need to actually see the Witcher 3 Story trailer marketing.

Here's a hint
  • Big Bad: Check
  • Impending Doom: Check
  • Putzing around an open world: Oh Hells Nah!
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I never said anything about the trailers. I remember what the trailers for the game were like. I was talking about the actual narrative, and what I meant was that the actual gameplay clashes with the narrative. The entire point is this epic race, yet if you actually follow that, you miss the majority of the game. You almost never see that mentioned either.

EventHorizon said:
Are you serious? One of the best trailers of all times is for Mass Effect.
Mass Effect 2 Launch Trailer
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LOL. I would always have anyone I wanted to get into the series watch that specific trailer, and only that trailer.
 
I wouldn't mind if the game isn't that great. So far I'm even more excited about the multiplayer. ME3 was so much fun.
But I haven't heard much about the new one. Have they even shown anything from it so far? I hope they don't screw it up. Just the same like ME3 with some improvements on top would enough for me.
And still no confirmation about Quarian? I need a female one for MP. That's actually my biggest worry right now about the game.
 
Sanctuary said:
I never said anything about the trailers. I remember what the trailers for the game were like. I was talking about the actual narrative, and what I meant was that the actual gameplay clashes with the narrative. The entire point is this epic race, yet if you actually follow that, you miss the majority of the game. You almost never see that mentioned either.
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I don't even know what point you are trying to make now. Your example, Witcher 3, does exactly what you say should be a problem and is widely acclaimed. There is no problem with providing a strong conflict to sell the story and the game, while allowing the character to do side quests.

Regardless, even if it were a problem, solving it by removing the strong conflict is the exact backwards way of handling it. The best solution of all is to make the side quests relevant to the main quest. Why is having meaningless side quests the part of the equation you feel needs to be a constant?
 
This thread is about Mass Effect? Do people exoect it to be good? It's been downhill since the first one stripping any kind of RPG out for shooter. No idea why people are bringing Witcher into this it won multiple game of the year awards this game isn't going to win any.
 
Mideon said:
This thread is about Mass Effect? Do people exoect it to be good? It's been downhill since the first one stripping any kind of RPG out for shooter. No idea why people are bringing Witcher into this it won multiple game of the year awards this game isn't going to win any.
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Sounds like you played through Andromeda multiple times.
 
Think it's gonna be a re-hash of past ME, more shooter than rpg; it'll be solid, just uninspired. It'll also have a lot of MMO-style fetch quests and some microtransaction for the 'global event/multiplayer'.

This is all conjecture.
 
Mideon said:
This thread is about Mass Effect? Do people exoect it to be good? It's been downhill since the first one stripping any kind of RPG out for shooter. No idea why people are bringing Witcher into this it won multiple game of the year awards this game isn't going to win any.
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I didnt like the fact that bioware removed all the RPG elements too but ME2 was still a better game than 1 imho mainly due to the shoddy performance of ME 1
 
Jack cw said:
Sounds like you played through Andromeda multiple times.
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Yeah finished it 50 times like everyone else in this thread. I'm just saying it's the trend with this series. In my opinion if I'm allowed it the series has been getting worse as it goes on. Started off as a nice RPG now it's a shooter with multiplayer to boot.
 
I am just going to chill and wait a week after release so everyone else gets to beta test it first.

Seriously, doing this with every single game I am interested in nowadays.
 
Mideon said:
This thread is about Mass Effect? Do people exoect it to be good? It's been downhill since the first one stripping any kind of RPG out for shooter. No idea why people are bringing Witcher into this it won multiple game of the year awards this game isn't going to win any.
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I think they got better and better so personally have no idea what you are on about.
 
I loved each of the mass effect games. 2 being the best.

I have to admit i just haven't see enough to get hyped. Not worried though. Im sure closer to release we will get a really good trailer and in depth break down to new stuff the game brings.
 
There better not be any MMO fetch quests Bioware. If I have to collect ten pieces of space rock for an NPC I'm going to flip.
 
I can't believe I'm saying this due it being Mass Effect, but I'm going to rent this one out and rebuy it when it goes on sale. I'm not confident in the open-world direction and Dragons Age Inquisition was one of the most disappointing games for me. So, I really need to know if Bioware truly learned from the mistakes from that game.

Is it confirmed that the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer team is the one doing the campaign? I thought I read this a year ago, but not too sure.
 
AHA-Lambda said:
It's out in 2 months and we've still seen barely anything, that alone is cause for concern.

In addition, Bioware ain't exactly been on fire with their latest games, and this is doubly concerning if ME:A is taking inspiration from DA:I.
I especially hope ME:A is not a big open world collectathon that makes you grind crappy side quests to continue the story.
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My main concern because I absolutely despised DA:I

The only game they need to look to for inspiration is Mass Effect 1-2-3.

Imo
 
Mideon said:
This thread is about Mass Effect? Do people exoect it to be good? It's been downhill since the first one stripping any kind of RPG out for shooter. No idea why people are bringing Witcher into this it won multiple game of the year awards this game isn't going to win any.
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But Mass Effect 2 did something that the Witcher 3 didn't achieve, it won GAF GOTY.
 
I really hate it when they doesn't show ingame footage when showing a trailer. They really need to stop doing that. Gfx are good enough to do that with ingame gfx. Look at the last zelda bow trailer.
 
I'm just worried that the game won't sell well due to the lack of marketing so far. I really want it to succeed, Mass Effect is my favourite gaming franchise.
 
I was worried the moment I saw the Bioware logo.

Heyooooo!
*self-fives*

Really though, while the gameplay bits we have seen so far looks cool, I am more concerned if Bioware are still on that downward slope in storytelling. I feel like each game since around DA1 or MA1 have gone worse and worse with story, characters are (usually) great in their games, but the main story nowadays lacks focus. ME3 was probably one of the biggest clusterfucks in terms of botched ending and several upon several of loose threads they just decided to drop suddenly and never talk about after ME2. After The Witcher 3 I know you can do a lot better in terms in interesting main story, sidequests, DLC's and more, especially when you're the older company with a much, much, much, much bigger budgets.
 
EventHorizon said:
I don't even know what point you are trying to make now. Your example, Witcher 3, does exactly what you say should be a problem and is widely acclaimed. There is no problem with providing a strong conflict to sell the story and the game, while allowing the character to do side quests.

Regardless, even if it were a problem, solving it by removing the strong conflict is the exact backwards way of handling it. The best solution of all is to make the side quests relevant to the main quest. Why is having meaningless side quests the part of the equation you feel needs to be a constant?
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I don't really get why this has to be explained at all. Geralt is
on an urgent mission to find his adopted daughter, who he's getting the sense is in great peril. He also gets more information as he goes along in that she might actually cause the destruction of everyone, or perhaps save them. Time is of the essence.
But what you're saying is that it's cool to spend days, if not weeks playing gwent to enter a gwent tournament, or other completely unrelated quests that are strictly for gold? The entire open world aspect clashes hard with the main narrative. The side quests that go along with the main quest are essentially wrapped up inside the main quest anyway. Everything outside of that is just "The Witcher simulator" and plays as a completely separate game. It absolutely demolishes the pacing.
 
GodOnlyNose said:
My main concern because I absolutely despised DA:I

The only game they need to look to for inspiration is Mass Effect 1-2-3.

Imo
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The only game they needed to look for inspiration for DA2 and I was DA:O. The chances of them looking at ME1 for inspiration is basically 0%.

The best you could hope for is Destiny, most likely they will be inspired by some combination of dead space 3 and assassins creed.
 
I am too. I am of the belief that, if you show as little as they have, something went catastrophicly wrong along the way. I like to go in as blind as I can, but the information should still be out there in a form that gives us an idea of what we will be able to consume come March. Interviews and all of that are just great, but I've gotta see it all in action before I believe it.
 
The cynic in me expects a reskinned DA Inquisition with the same awful writing from ME3. If the game were anything special they wouldn't be marketing it in such a bizarre way, they are afraid to show too much because they know people will call them out.

Everyone is dubious after ME3 and Bioware know it, they don't have any confidence in the product. They keep saying they've learned this and that but I want to see the receipts. I want to see that quests are actual quests and not pixel hunts with a small text box at the end.
 
alt27 said:
Do you have eyes and ears ? It's even edited badly
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Just so I'm clear, we're discussing the technical aspects only, not the actual content, correct? Because the "first" ME:A trailer is garbage, and the next one has a lot of good footage, but is edited terribly with the staff working on the game. Nothing screams hype like seeing a programmer programming the game!
 
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