Anyone noticing this?
Sounds like they are still undecided about what the next console is even going to be.
E3 is in 2 months. Being vague now about it makes sense for a reveal there.
Anyone noticing this?
Sounds like they are still undecided about what the next console is even going to be.
All this guy is saying is please keep buying XB1s.
can software developers even keep up with these rapid console upgrades? We are 3 years into this gen and developers are still strugling to deliver proper AAA games.
And this is why I'm drifting back into retro gaming.
So they will potentially have the weakest console on the market then.
People worried about the PS4 getting the short end of the stick vs. the PS4K wont have much to worry about then.
I hope he means that when they do decide to release a new console SKU, it's considered the successor to the Xbox One, and not just an upgraded Xbox One. I'm cool with my Xbox One lifespan of 5 years. So long as it's successor is way more powerful at a $400-$450 price tag.
Anyone noticing this?
Sounds like they are still undecided about what the next console is even going to be.
I think he's saying he's after a more significant upgrade than PS4K.
I told you they be selling it to Burger King.I am honestly not so sure the Xbox brand (as a console) can survive into another console generation. I do not think Phil knows if Nadella will allow it yet either.
During his Xbox Spring Showcase event keynote last week, Microsoft's head of Xbox Phil Spencer talked about future of "hardware innovation" for the console, similar to the ways PCs evolve.
In a speech to reporters, he said that the Xbox One could see a future in which it is upgraded, rather than replaced by new consoles. Spencer was talking about how Microsoft has sought to align its Windows 10 and Xbox One development activities under the internal "Universal Windows Platform" while offering backwards compatibility for many Xbox 360 games, now playable on Xbox One. He was addressing the concerns of some Xbox One owners that the exclusives destined for that console are appearing on PC, thus eroding the value of owning a console.
But he went much further than merely outlining internal strategies for cross-platform efficiency. He argued that consoles could and should be upgradeable, like PCs, and that the model of generation shifts may be coming to an end.
"We see on other platforms whether it be mobile or PC that you get a continuous innovation that you rarely see on console," he said. "Consoles lock the hardware and the software platforms together at the beginning of the generation. Then you ride the generation out for seven or so years, while other ecosystems are getting better, faster, stronger. And then you wait for the next big step function.
"When you look at the console space, I believe we will see more hardware innovation in the console space than we've ever seen. You'll actually see us come out with new hardware capability during a generation allowing the same games to run backward and forward compatible because we have a Universal Windows Application running on top of the Universal Windows Platform that allows us to focus more and more on hardware innovation without invalidating the games that run on that platform."
Spencer said that Xbox One owners could be offered optional hardware upgrades in the future, that allows the console to keep up with emerging and competing technologies. Such a move would also suggest an end for new console launches.
"We can effectively feel a little bit more like we see on PC, where I can still go back and run my old Doom and Quake games that I used to play years ago but I can still see the best 4K games come out and my library is always with me. Hardware innovation continues while the software innovation is able to take advantage and I don't have to jump a generation and lose everything that I played on before."
"Am I going to break open my console and start upgrading individual pieces of my console? Thats not our plan, Spencer explained. There is something special about what happens with a console. You buy an appliance-like device, you plug it into your TV, it works when you plug it in. Its not like Im going to ship a screwdriver set with every console that comes out.
What Im saying is, as hardware innovations happen, we want to be able to embrace those in the console space, he continued. Make those available and maybe not have to wait seven or eight years for things to happen.
Just imagine how much work needed for developers to optimize their games on all platforms available on the market. It would be insane.Sony "PS4.5, 3.5 TF in 2016"
MS "cancel Xbox 1.5 Xbox 2, 4.0 TF in 2017"
Sony "cancel PS4.5 raise you a PS 5, 5TF in 2018!"
MS "cancel Xbox 2, straight jump to Xbox 2.5, 6 TF in 2019"
10 years later, we still game on PS4 and Xbox one.
And it will be called the Xbox Whopper, indicating a whopping upgrade.Im busy loling at his statement and the people believing that he is saying there wont be ab upgrade. There will be and it will be an Xbox1.5, the amount of spin in his statement is hilarious.
I disagree, if they stick with Xbox One as it is now (slim models and all that are fine too so long as its the same capabilities) for a minimum of 5 years total while Sony starts this incremental upgrade cycle most people don't seem to be fans of....then many people might jump right back to Microsoft for the fourth Xbox's launch in 2018 or 2019.
Sony "PS4.5, 3.5 TF in 2016"
MS "cancel Xbox 1.5 Xbox 2, 4.0 TF in 2017"
Sony "cancel PS4.5 raise you a PS 5, 5TF in 2018!"
MS "cancel Xbox 2, straight jump to Xbox 2.5, 6 TF in 2019"
10 years later, we still game on PS4 and Xbox one.
That also sounded like pie in the sky talk. We can predict and believe things could/should go in a direction. Doesn't mean they will. Look at Xbox 180 as one of the more cent examples. Had an agenda to go one way, the switched gears.
At the end of the day, devs can piss and moan about power of consoles. But the people will chose to either support devs that make games on the new hardware and dish our crappy downgraded ports to the previous SKU's, or not.
I know I won't be supporting any developer that makes a poor downgraded version, especially if it has major performance issues.
Im busy loling at his statement and the people believing that he is saying there wont be ab upgrade. There will be and it will be an Xbox1.5, the amount of spin in his statement is hilarious.
XBox One, Two, Three, and to the Four, Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr Dre are at the Door
Recent MS history/announcements:
1) X1 getting handily beaten by PS4
2) MS start reporting MAU, focusing on user base vs console sales
3) MS announce their new UWP strategy where many games having simultaneous PC release
4) This Phil Spencer quote on upgrades/new consoles
The first 3 all suggest that MS are going to play their hand differently going forward. Something seems off from what he's saying....why go through all the UWP and MAU changes?
But, there are three products in all of this. There is Windows, there is Office 365, and there is Azure. That’s it. Everything else to me is, of course, you can call them features, you can call them parts of that, and even there there’s complexity. - Link
Finally, we will build the best instantiation of this vision through our Windows device platform and our devices, which will serve to delight our customers, increase distribution of our services, drive gross margin, enable fundamentally new product categories, and generate opportunity for the Windows ecosystem more broadly. We will pursue our gaming ambition as part of this broader vision for Windows and increase its appeal to consumers. We will bring together Xbox Live and our first-party gaming efforts across PC, console, mobile and new categories like HoloLens into one integrated play. - Link
I'm just a bit confused as to what he is saying today compared to March in that link. Is there going to be upgrade like he originally hinted at that is substantial or are they now going to wait till a new gen arrives.
That's where I'm at. Seems like he's directly contradicting what he said a month ago. I'm just not sure what's going on with it all right now.
I have a feeling MS is gonna try to start next gen in 2018 with a brand new xbox that's even more powerful than the ps4 and ps4k for an early sales lead.
"The servers are doing well". Lol nice dig.
That's just so sales don't plummet now.
They wouldn't have said jack in the first place if they were undecided.
Xbox Four K?
E3 is going to be so freaking interesting this year.
That's the industry as a whole these days. More reactionary than ever before.
I take his comment to mean that it will not be a small upgrade, but a large one. Significant is maybe a better word for it. Don't see how people are reading that they are not going to do the upgrade at all. It will either be this year or next but it is coming and it will be a significant upgrade.
Lmao that dig. Servers don't even have much that much relation to hardware in the box.For us, our box is doing well. It performs, its reliable, the servers are doing well.
Maybe if there's a second GPU added alongside another HDMI Out with support for two displays. And the CPU and RAM beefed up enough to run two copies of Halo 5 simultaneously.Will the upgrade let us play splitscreen Halo 5?
Will the upgrade let us play splitscreen Halo 5?
"Xbox 4K coming this holiday. Play all your favorite Xbox One games* and watch Netflix shows in 4K resolution.
*Upscaled"
Phil, you're a genius.
Also you don't get dig Sony for server issues. XBL has seen some shit recently.
That's where I'm at. Seems like he's directly contradicting what he said a month ago. I'm just not sure what's going on with it all right now.
Will the upgrade let us play splitscreen Halo 5?
Wow. Good guy Phil.
Look Sony, if Microsoft aren't moving in this direction why should you?