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In the event that PS5 Pro does release in 2024 but there is no new Xbox Series console because there is already Series S & X
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Negotiator101
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Thank you m'lord.If they're doing Pro's they're both doing Pros
As much as each party will have NDAs with AMD, they're not perfect and work with a lot of the same teams and people, they're going to know that the other is launching a mid gen refresh at least.
Banjo64
cumsessed
? You don’t have to though. I swapped my PS4 Slim for a Pro, something I have minor regret over. The PS5 will still be a great console.
midnightAI
Member
If they want to get sued that would be a great idea.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But it's not tho, if the optional drive is any indication of reality in the redesign.
They just stealth increased the price of the S.
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LordOfChaos
Member
Xbox word salad so far, let's see how it actually goes before getting smug
You know there's an Osborne Effect companies try to avoid
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Holding the full potential of the Pro back, yes. The gen for Sony is established in the PS5.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It 100% is. And I have ZERO clue what MS is doing any of this!
BootsLoader
Banned
Xbox may release the Series Series X. The problem is that the developers will have to target three consoles instead of two. Things will become tricky.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Who said you had to do anything?
Nemesisuuu
Member
If there's not SSD 2 in PS5 Pro, yuck.
Crayon
Member
This is very unlikeley. They both have to be developing them to some extent even if they aren't sure they are going to go into production and release. I could see ms doing a year later and a hundred more like with the one x but I'm not sure that will get you a ton of return on the screen. They rhetorical value of terraflops has been greatly diminished over the last few years and is only going to land with the hardest of core who already have a series x anyway so it's kind of getting into a mess just to keep up with the joneses.
Stafford
Member
So Spencer was basically keeping stuff close to the chest when he said what he said, recently?
I sure hope so, because I really want to keep buying multiplatform games for Xbox, it's my main and have PS5 as the console for its exclusives only. But if we get a scenario where gta 6 releases and it's significantly better on this PS5 Pro than XSX and I have both, it's gonna be hard to justify buying it for XSX.
Spencer made it clear at the start of this generation MS would not lose on the power and price game anymore, but the former would not be true then. Hope you're right.
Crayon
Member
It's not true now.
alucard0712_rus
Member
Yeah $300 is impossible. It will still beat 1TB XS at $349.If they can price reduce that much than the XSS is only $199.
I don't think the PS5 will hit $299 for some time yet though.
Spyxos
Member
If a Ps5 Pro is really coming and not an Xbox Pro, I was completely wrong. I can not imagine this at the moment at all, but who knows.
I see this 'tit for tat' assumption a lot, and sure - it's possible, but is it justified?
Last gen both had very different reasons that ran orthogonal to each other (ie. the new machines weren't even competing with each other outside of Digital Foundry's ecosystem).
And more importantly - both of them combined amounted to like - less than 10% of the overall marketshare. Sure - that may have been the more valuable users by amount they spend - but could we really say either upgrade had any meaningful impact on the market overall? (not the bottomline of the platform holders - I'm sure they were happy with the improved ASRP).
Basically - I'm questioning that even on the back of very meaningful reasons for the upgrades (4k, VR, chasing the power users, chasing the power narrative, branding wars etc.) the impact was - well kind of irrelevant at large. And this gen - many of those reasons aren't even there anymore or are significantly diminished in impact - the only reason to release a mid-gen upgrade directly as response to competitor doing it is FOMO - and I'm not sure if these businesses are 'that' panicky (but maybe they are - I dunno).
My guess is that they messed up on manufacturing cost while Sony bit the bullet with the design of PS5 in the beginning but actually got the price down ( Mostly the storage solution )
It's really possible that PS5 V2 & PS5 Pro will end up going head to head with Xbox Series S & Xbox Series X .
THE DUCK
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Competition tends to drive the market, if ms, Sony, or Nintendo release a 25Tf machine the others will have to react. (OK maybe not Nintendo, but you bet if Nintendo shocked the world with a monster sony and xbox eould have to do something sooner rather than later).
DaGwaphics
Member
Major technological advances would be required.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I am all in on a PS5 Pro for one game Hell Let Loose
Its starts to really bog down on some maps and I am not about to start over on PC and lose all my progress so yes I am begging for a PS5 Pro
Kataploom
Gold Member
Well, this time around people can expect to avoid a Bloodborne situation since most PS5 games have an unlocked frame rate modeI am all in on a PS5 Pro for one game Hell Let Loose
Its starts to really bog down on some maps and I am not about to start over on PC and lose all my progress so yes I am begging for a PS5 Pro
HTK
Banned
Yes, because you don't need to upgrade. You're still in the same generation and will get support through the end of that generation for the base PS5.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
There's zero chance MS would be able to win in that battle. Because Sony will obviously drop the price of the PS5 V2 by the time the PS5 Pro hits the market for $500. I can see the PS5 V2 costing $300 by the end of 2024.
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Ozrimandias
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PS5 with complete backwards compatibility and integrate the catalog of the old ps store to actually buy PS2 and PSone Classic and PS3 titles -if not- Sony could Fxxk off.
So -to me- 99% possibility that Sony will fxxk off with this new PS5 pro.
So -to me- 99% possibility that Sony will fxxk off with this new PS5 pro.
Zug
Member
I'll probably grab a PS5 pro down the line so I can ditch my PS4 and get the few PS5 exclusives of this gen.
But as a PS4 pro owner, it was not really worth it over the standard PS4, the hardware was there but there were few "pro" patches overall. Consoles being standardized hardware by definition, it's easily understandable why developpers find it annoying to support multiple versions.
But as a PS4 pro owner, it was not really worth it over the standard PS4, the hardware was there but there were few "pro" patches overall. Consoles being standardized hardware by definition, it's easily understandable why developpers find it annoying to support multiple versions.
Elder Legend
Banned
People don't realize how much money Microsoft really has. They can easily counter with a new SKU as needed, it won't matter if they lose a few billion or not. They did it with Xbox One X and the Series X and they will do it again with something else. It's really not an issue for them. Also, you'd be very dumb to think that MS is not doing any kind of R&D behind the scenes already, I am 100% confident they already have stuff in the works for both a new more powerful SKU and the next-gen platform. It's really not a brainer.
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analog_future
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So you're going to ignore what Microsoft said?
Microsoft Gaming Chief Doesn’t See a Need for New Xbox Yet - BNN Bloomberg
Microsoft Corp.’s video gaming chief Phil Spencer said he doesn’t “feel an imperative” to come out with a major upgrade of its Xbox game console.
www.bnnbloomberg.ca
RoboFu
One of the green rats
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If the ideal demand isn't there for your current machine, a new one will not move the needle one bit. They are locked behind two different spec'ed SKUs already.So you're going to ignore what Microsoft said?
Microsoft Gaming Chief Doesn’t See a Need for New Xbox Yet - BNN Bloomberg
Microsoft Corp.’s video gaming chief Phil Spencer said he doesn’t “feel an imperative” to come out with a major upgrade of its Xbox game console.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I've watched the podcast to day. It says nothing about this statement.
What it's referring to is microsoft not producing pro while ps5 does
Stafford
Member
But on the other hand didn't MS acknowledge recently that cloud really hasn't taken off at all much? I doubt they are shifting away from consoles. Let's hope Xbox, the console sells really well once Starfield drops.
Look up at what thread you're in then you will understand
Elder Legend
Banned
Do you honestly think a major company is going to come out and just say "Oh there are rumors of a comptetior making a new version high end version? Don't worry, we might have something cooking too!"So you're going to ignore what Microsoft said?
Microsoft Gaming Chief Doesn’t See a Need for New Xbox Yet - BNN Bloomberg
Microsoft Corp.’s video gaming chief Phil Spencer said he doesn’t “feel an imperative” to come out with a major upgrade of its Xbox game console.
Lol. That's not how this works. They will market and time it as needed. Obviously there is no need now for a new console upgrade. When a competitor releases theirs, then the time will be around the corner. I never understood why people always take everything to heart what any company says. Everyone manipulates and says things they need to say to controll a narrative. It really isn't that hard to figure out.
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What? They announced Project Scorpio over a year in advance while PS4 Pro was just rumors & leaks this time they said they are focusing on the consoles they have now.
MisterXDTV
Member
Why should they make a THIRD console?
They are not even selling the two they already have......
Xbox brand is dead, there's no demand....
They are not even selling the two they already have......
Xbox brand is dead, there's no demand....
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intbal
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Elder Legend
Banned
That was then, I am not sure why you are brining up the past. And i am not sure what you are trying to prove here. You are missing the point I am trying to make my friend.
Company won't blatantly just come out and announce a new SKU when it isn't needed. Also, the case with Xbox One X was far different. Xbox One was actually a lesser powerful machine than the PS4 was. Microsoft was playing catch up that entire generation, so they had to announce something new and more powerful than their competitor whether there were rumors or not.
This generation, both consoles are pretty much at par as far as power goes, with Series X slightly tiny bit more powerful on the GPU side of things, but not by much. The Xbox One had a lot of issues running current gen games at the time at good resolutions.
None of either consoles even had their full potential tapped yet. We barely just got out of the crossgen cycle. Gotta be a bit more patient.
LOL but it wasn't him this time
And what do you think they are doing now?
bitbydeath
Member
I think the below image shows for a strong push to try get more people to move over to PC, all it’s missing is a green outline around the PC section. But that pricing is clearly favouring PC.
Crispy Gamer
Member
It's being reported that Sony started creation of the pro in the beginning of 2022 for a fall 2024 release so there's nothing stopping Microsoft from creating an elite model at the start of 2023 with a 2025 release date but if it can't release until 2026 then it wouldn't make sense to release it so late in the generation