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In your experience, do "nice guys" really finish last?
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Well said.
Bobs Big Boy
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I'd like to think there are more than a couple types of people.
Being nice isn't anything to me when it comes to finding a woman. It's nice and that's nice but that's that and do not know what else that is for women. Can only speak from a male perspective.
All I know is that I do not fit into some box of having one kind of personality within every interaction. Something presents itself and I react accordingly.
Being nice isn't anything to me when it comes to finding a woman. It's nice and that's nice but that's that and do not know what else that is for women. Can only speak from a male perspective.
All I know is that I do not fit into some box of having one kind of personality within every interaction. Something presents itself and I react accordingly.
Buckethead
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I believe in ethical self-interest and reciprocity.
Do that, find someone who does the same, and things seem to work out pretty well.
Do that, find someone who does the same, and things seem to work out pretty well.
I would say it's more so people just don't know what they want, and are insecure in general.
Because they're sleeping with all the girls I've been pining after for years under the facade of being their friend. Plus I know they're assholes because girls complain about them to me all the time. They confide in me because I'm so nice to them. They're SO going to have sex with me soon.
I always tell guys they shouldn't waste their time with anyone that they're interested in who isn't giving them attention. It's a lesson I learned myself, cause girls go through this too. I had one particular coworker who was okay with the idea of waiting until they "came around" and realized how much of a "good guy" he was, which is a shame in my opinion.
In all honesty everyone should be treating each other nicely, regardless if there's any interest or not.
In all honesty everyone should be treating each other nicely, regardless if there's any interest or not.
I don't think it matters one bit. A woman is either into you or not. The idea that people can be "won" with persistence and grand gestures seems to come from romantic comedies or something. No one I know of has had a storybook like romance, they both wanted to bone and ended up together.
Patrick Bateman
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About what "finish" are we talking here?
And mostly on her back.
And mostly on her back.
OrlanisWorks
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I believe simps finish last, not nice guys. Unless by nice guys, you mean guys who pretty much put themselves in the critically-acclaimed relationship area known as the friendzone.
Deified Data
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Nice guys don't always come in last, but someone expecting "favors" for being a decent human being are always going to come out feeling slighted when the world doesn't reciprocate.
I had to search for what MGTOW and when I found it I had the confirmation you're a sad delusional fool.
Finaika
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Deified Data
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I'm convinced you fell for a troll.
I hope so! Shit gave me douche chills.
out0v0rder
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"Nice guys" end up with "Nice girls" eventually maybe. I've seen it happen. theres a creeper for everyone.
My reaction was :O
This video needs to be watched until the very end. Amazing.
This is true. The majority of humanity are assholes.
Dark Octave
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5 minute video.
Bitch please...
a joke from the other thread that I thought went well with this one, as it wasn't very nice
User 100115
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As always, first post.
We have a saying here:
Kāore te kumara e kōrero mō tōna ake reka
(The kumara (sweet potato) does not say how sweet he is)
It refers to humility, but it applies here too I think. The true nice guys are sweet and do well, and the ones that bleat on about how nice they are are just fakers that "finish last".
hgarrett54
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I like ice cream
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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It all has to do with confidence.
there is a difference between a guy who is nice because of his confidence, and a self proclaimed non-confident "nice guy".
there is a difference between a guy who is nice because of his confidence, and a self proclaimed non-confident "nice guy".
Fudgepuppy
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Actual nice guys might not finish first, but they seem to get the best trophy when all is said and done.
It really astounds me that people(I guess more specifcally "nice guys") believe the whole "women love assholes" thing.
What we don't like is people abusing our friendship and trust with only sex as the goal. Add to that someone who isn't confident and is essientially a doormat and this is where you become the "nice guy" and not, you know, an ACTUAL nice guy.
I love a guy who is confident, caring, respectful and has empathy. I know many people feel this way. If you're not any of that, good luck finding a relationship.
What we don't like is people abusing our friendship and trust with only sex as the goal. Add to that someone who isn't confident and is essientially a doormat and this is where you become the "nice guy" and not, you know, an ACTUAL nice guy.
I love a guy who is confident, caring, respectful and has empathy. I know many people feel this way. If you're not any of that, good luck finding a relationship.
FreeMufasa
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Maddocks
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The major problem with "nice guys" is that some of them think its not them that is the problem. They blame others for their own shortcomings. You have to be able to look in the mirror and point out your flaws and then make a change.
Back in the day, I was lonely and sad and I blamed others(mostly women) for my problems because they didn't like me for me. But upon self reflection it was clear why they didn't like me, because I was very selfish and the end goal wasn't to build a strong friendship and relationship, but it was to get laid and that is what my main problem was. With learning and help(from friends and from gaf) I have become a better person who is more comfortable in my own skin then trying to be that guy trying to get everyone to notice him. Once you just let go, the doors open wide.
Back in the day, I was lonely and sad and I blamed others(mostly women) for my problems because they didn't like me for me. But upon self reflection it was clear why they didn't like me, because I was very selfish and the end goal wasn't to build a strong friendship and relationship, but it was to get laid and that is what my main problem was. With learning and help(from friends and from gaf) I have become a better person who is more comfortable in my own skin then trying to be that guy trying to get everyone to notice him. Once you just let go, the doors open wide.
Nice guys do not finish last, unattractive guys (and girls) finish last
Despite Hollywood's best efforts to somehow separate the way genders are wired, both males and females will fuck a physically attractive person, despite their deficiencies in personality. Most males would fuck Kim Kardashian no matter how stupid or annoying she gets, this is accepted that males will fuck a empty headed idiot. We dont make any excuses here like "men only love stupid females" we know why men want to fuck these women, they are phsyically attractive. the end. Its that simple.
But why is it not accepted that many females would do the same and fuck a male whose main attribute is that he is physically attractive? Why is this a "bad thing"? Ryan Gosling can be a total douchebag all he wants and will still be able to land tons of women. That does not in fact mean "women love assholes", it means "women will tolerate to a extent his assholeness because of his physically attractiveness". Just like men will accept any bullshit Hilton, Kardashian or whoever else displays. Not because males love empty headed idiots, but they will accept it just to fuck them. There is no difference here, so why act like there should be?
The shit 90s sit coms, Hollywood and Disney have taught you is complete crock, females are not wired any differently than males are, they do not in fact only judge males based on their personality. Your life is not Beauty and the Beast
No reason to chastise anyone because of this, its how we are wired. The more physically attractive you are, the more rope you have to play with and more you can get away with. "Nice Guys" seems like a defensive mechanism to institute that something is wrong with women, when in fact nothing is wrong with them at all. They are acting based on their instincts which are far more similar to male instincts than you are led to believe.
TLDR:
When men want to fuck attractive women, its okay, thats how men are. Big titties and asses is all that is needed
When women want to fuck attractive men, its not okay, its not how they are suppose to be. They must like assholes/something is wrong with them
Despite Hollywood's best efforts to somehow separate the way genders are wired, both males and females will fuck a physically attractive person, despite their deficiencies in personality. Most males would fuck Kim Kardashian no matter how stupid or annoying she gets, this is accepted that males will fuck a empty headed idiot. We dont make any excuses here like "men only love stupid females" we know why men want to fuck these women, they are phsyically attractive. the end. Its that simple.
But why is it not accepted that many females would do the same and fuck a male whose main attribute is that he is physically attractive? Why is this a "bad thing"? Ryan Gosling can be a total douchebag all he wants and will still be able to land tons of women. That does not in fact mean "women love assholes", it means "women will tolerate to a extent his assholeness because of his physically attractiveness". Just like men will accept any bullshit Hilton, Kardashian or whoever else displays. Not because males love empty headed idiots, but they will accept it just to fuck them. There is no difference here, so why act like there should be?
The shit 90s sit coms, Hollywood and Disney have taught you is complete crock, females are not wired any differently than males are, they do not in fact only judge males based on their personality. Your life is not Beauty and the Beast
No reason to chastise anyone because of this, its how we are wired. The more physically attractive you are, the more rope you have to play with and more you can get away with. "Nice Guys" seems like a defensive mechanism to institute that something is wrong with women, when in fact nothing is wrong with them at all. They are acting based on their instincts which are far more similar to male instincts than you are led to believe.
TLDR:
When men want to fuck attractive women, its okay, thats how men are. Big titties and asses is all that is needed
When women want to fuck attractive men, its not okay, its not how they are suppose to be. They must like assholes/something is wrong with them
Dion Blaster
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Does any actually call themselves a nice guy anymore? Being nice has such a bad connotation at this point (when referring to yourself).
PROGRAM_IX
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That belief is so prevalent that it is stated as fact in many, many places. Entire philosophies and books and websites and who knows what else, all based on some guys who are mad because a woman preferred someone else, even though they were so nice to her!!!
Alcoremortis
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I think the problem with a Nice Guy (TM) is that that's literally the best thing they can say for themselves.
So you're nice. Congratulations, welcome to the human race. Now what else can you do?
The problem is most of said Nice Guys (TM) don't have an answer to that question.
So you're nice. Congratulations, welcome to the human race. Now what else can you do?
The problem is most of said Nice Guys (TM) don't have an answer to that question.
And the problem arises when people confuse intrisic motivation with actions themselves. I.e. when people say you to be confident, some think it means that you have to act boisterously. Or being kind means that you have to be a servant to someone etc.
It's seeing social interaction as a game where moves x, y and z will lead you to gain something from others.
Only assholes think like this.
KiwiLannister
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I've got some friends that are the nicest guys ever. And they all have girl friends and are successful on that front. They also have a lot of other things going for them like confidence/humor etc.
I mean I'm just echoing the rest of the thread, but actual nice guys finish first and nice guys (TM) finish last.
I mean the Nice Guys (TM) start acting like they're friend zoned doormats before the girl even has a chance to put them there themselves.
I mean I'm just echoing the rest of the thread, but actual nice guys finish first and nice guys (TM) finish last.
I mean the Nice Guys (TM) start acting like they're friend zoned doormats before the girl even has a chance to put them there themselves.
WanderingWind
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You can't be nice all the time and you can't be an asshole all the time. You need to be able to get along with coworkers, keep subordinates happy and convince superiors that you can manage basic human relationships. You also need to be able to assert yourself, keep subordinates from walking over you and convince superiors that you can fight.
Same thing applies in personal relationships, I think. Few people find doormats attractive, but being a domination-focused assface won't end up in anything that resembles a equal partnership.
As with all things, being balanced is the key.
Same thing applies in personal relationships, I think. Few people find doormats attractive, but being a domination-focused assface won't end up in anything that resembles a equal partnership.
As with all things, being balanced is the key.
That was better than I expected. He kind of lost me at the beginning calling them bitches all the time, and focusing excessively on the idea that they don't think women are people.
But he made plenty of quality points by the end.
FeenieVonKarma
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The phrase is weird. If "nice guys finish last" that implies that they DO finish, right? So just be patient!
You didn't know? Hurry up and impregnate a woman before someones else does!
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