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Piano Guys

nooooooooo

3 Doors Down must just be happy to be a front act

 

[BrutishMrFish]

I mean... You all are laughing at this as if you're highschoolers and the kid you don't like is wearing Walmart shoes to P.E. class instead of Nikes.. it's really.. pathetic.. :/

Edit 2: this isn't a "poverty analogy".. Jesus... How silly. Because these guys are popular bands or mucisians anymore you're all laughing at him. It's so silly and yes the analogy makes perfect sense..

Even if celebrities aren't performing just so they can keep their fans, that means they know that Trump is disliked by the majority of the country. It's funny because he's such a piece of shit that the only people who are willing to perform for him are the people who need the exposure, and also because he called all of the celebrities who attended the DNC convention losers and has-beens. It's funny because he's obsessed with celebrity and can't get what he really wants.

George W. Bush had a better lineup thaen this, and not everyone who played agreed with him politically. He didn't spend his entire life being a piece of shit, so people were still willing to come out for him because he was still respectable as the president.

Your analogy is really quite bad.

 

[LionPride]

Stooping to the level of the President of the United States... You see the problem here?

The bands make their own decisions. I mean if they need eating money, then I guess I can understand but unless they want to be there, I don't see how it does them any favors. Trump fans, for example, aren't going to start being huge 3 door down fans.

Lol, it's like folks don't realize what they're saying

 

[AntraxSuicide]

First of all, what has race got to do with a working class voter? When did I ever mention race? Do minorites not count as the working class now? Do the underprivileged not count as the working class?

You literally said that working class people pushed back against celebrities. When they didn't. WHITE working class people did.

Jesus.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Popularity analogy... Not.. poverty.. forget it

The whole generic vs big name expensive brand has always been a poverty vs wealth thing. The swoosh doesn't make them popular, the cost that the swoosh adds to the shoe and thus the prestige gained therein is what made them popular. Brand clothes are for wealth signaling. It is why an expensive branded good that falls apart quickly can still be more popular than a cheaper unbranded good that lasts forever. It is also why uniforms are popular, though you get a different wealth signaling there as those in wealth can afford more shirts and what not and thus their clothes will generally have a newer shine, so those with older looking uniforms get made fun of instead.

 

[ElfArmy177]

Even if celebrities aren't performing just so they can keep their fans, that means they know that Trump is disliked by the majority of the country. It's funny because he's such a piece of shit that the only people who are willing to perform for him are the people who need the exposure, and also because he called all of the celebrities who attended the DNC convention losers and has-beens. It's funny because he's obsessed with celebrity and can't get what he really wants.

George W. Bush had a better lineup thaen this, and not everyone who played agreed with him politically. He didn't spend his entire life being a piece of shit, so people were still willing to come out for him because he was still respectable as the president.

Your analogy is really quite bad.

Eh.. it's an internet forum. I didn't think so, I'm sorry you felt that way. Have a good night, keep up the good fight

 

[rjinaz]

Even if celebrities aren't performing so they can keep their fans, that means they know that Trump is disliked by the majority of the country. It's funny because he's such a piece of shit that the only people who are willing to perform for him are the people who need the exposure, and also because he called all of the celebrities who attended the DNC convention losers and has-beens. It's funny because he's obsessed with celebrity and can't get what he really wants.

George W. Bush had a better lineup thaen this, and not everyone who played agreed with him politically. He didn't spend his entire life being a piece of shit, so people were still willing to come out for him because he was still respectable as the president.

Your analogy is really quite bad.

Thank you. Forgot about that, he sure did. He can dish it out but not take it.

But let's be honest, if Trump could pull in every major celebrity his supporters would LOVE it. Everybody getting behind Trump! The country united behind their glorious leader. It's only because he can't get any that now they are glad for it. In other words, no matter the outcome, Trump supporters were walking away content, it's what they do.

 

[War Peaceman]

I mean Trump is a guy who after being elected president still rants on twitter about meryl streep or snl. He builds giant tasteless buildings with his name on them and lives in golden throne rooms. Celebrity and status are central to him. That his inauguration is county fair level is a terrific joke.

 

[ElfArmy177]

The whole generic vs big name expensive brand has always been a poverty vs wealth thing. The swoosh doesn't make them popular, the cost that the swoosh adds to the shoe and thus the prestige gained therein is what made them popular. It is why an expensive branded good that falls apart quickly can still be more popular than a cheaper unbranded good that lasts forever.

I dunno, parents always purchased the shoes when I was a kid and I remember Nike being popular not because it was more expensive.. but because it was Nike. Anyways, have a good night! Hope all of you find peace with the outcome of the election soon or you're in for a rough 4 years.

 

[excelsiorlef]

I dunno, parents always purchased the shoes when I was a kid and I remember Nike being popular not because it was more expensive.. but because it was Nike. Anyways, have a good night! Hope all of you find peace with the outcome of the election soon or you're in for a rough 4 years.

Peace is complacency...
But thanks for the concern

PS I'm Canadian.

 

[rjinaz]

I dunno, parents always purchased the shoes when I was a kid and I remember Nike being popular not because it was more expensive.. but because it was Nike. Anyways, have a good night! Hope all of you find peace with the outcome of the election soon or you're in for a rough 4 years.

I will never find peace with Trump as president. I will be as stubborn, maybe even more stubborn as the Right side under Obama, from the birther nonsense to them trying to block his every move. Of course I actually have good reason to think Trump is a shit president, because he's a shit man.

If it's a long 4 years, so be it.

 

[Greatest Ever]

I mean Trump is a guy who after being elected president still rants on twitter about meryl streep or snl. He builds giant tasteless buildings with his name on them and lives in golden throne rooms. Celebrity and status are central to him. That his inauguration is county fair level is a terrific joke.

FWIW, dude puts his name on buildings. He barely builds shit.

 

[ElfArmy177]

I will never find peace with Trump as president. I will be as stubborn, maybe even more stubborn as the Right side under Obama, from the birther nonsense to them trying to block his every move. Of course I actually have good reason to think Trump is a shit president, because he's a shit man.

If it's a long 4 years, so be it.

I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying the laughing over who is at the inauguration is silly. Other topics? Yea legitimate. But I actually like 3 doors down... :/ And I felt bad for em with you guys laughing at em like they're terrible. It's their job... They need to pay bills too.. I dunno. Is what it is.

 

[War Peaceman]

FWIW, dude puts his name on buildings. He barely builds shit.

yes i know, but you are right we should make it clear he is a brand not a constructor. Actually he is more of a money launderer but hey ho.

 

[rjinaz]

I can only speak for myself when I say that my opinion is fluid based on facts presented to me, so irrespective of what others do, that's not me, I am not them.

Yes, he behaves like a petulant child on the internet, I agree with you, the evidence supports that.

People often ignore many things because of confirmation bias so that does not surprise me at all, nobody likes admitting they are wrong and nobody likes trying to see the other side these days, everyone just wants to stay within the safety of their own bubble and share it with other people who have the same opinions, that's the real problem.

I however love it when I am wrong, it only serves to remind me I am human and as a human I am imperfect and capable of making mistakes?

Ultimately I want everyone to benefit from what this world has to offer, I want equality and progressive values in society and I want us to never stop trying as humans to be kind and empathetic to one another and most important of all, I want us to be able to conversate with people who challenge our own views without resorting to making them feel like garbage, when we can no longer debate as equals and no longer debate about points we may not agree with, well, we might as well just pack it all up and be done with it.

Well I'll just say that you have been posting on gaf for a long time, usually in defense of Trump or more conservative values, and plenty of people have debated you and explained that in their minds you are wrong and you don't seem to take much away from it. So I'm not sure your point is valid if in your mind you are never wrong.

 

[tuxfool]

long ass screed of nonsense

I disagree, so your post is trash. I'm just speaking my mind here, so it is something you should appreciate.

 

[LionPride]

I can only speak for myself when I say that my opinion is fluid based on facts presented to me, so irrespective of what others do, that's not me, I am not them.

Yes, he behaves like a petulant child on the internet, I agree with you, the evidence supports that.

People often ignore many things because of confirmation bias so that does not surprise me at all, nobody likes admitting they are wrong and nobody likes trying to see the other side these days, everyone just wants to stay within the safety of their own bubble and share it with other people who have the same opinions, that's the real problem.

I however love it when I am wrong, it only serves to remind me I am human and as a human I am imperfect and capable of making mistakes?

Ultimately I want everyone to benefit from what this world has to offer, I want equality and progressive values in society and I want us to never stop trying as humans to be kind and empathetic to one another and most important of all, I want us to be able to conversate with people who challenge our own views without resorting to making them feel like garbage, when we can no longer debate as equals and no longer debate about points we may not agree with, well, we might as well just pack it all up and be done with it.

Here's the thing, I can't have dialogue with a racist or sexist or homophobe or islamaphobe or whatever, because at this stage they are either ignorant or stupid. I do not have patience for their shenanigans. I am done talking to people who will not pay attention to facts presented to them. I am done talking to people who are absolutely ignorant to the greater world around them.

 

[Link]

I dunno, parents always purchased the shoes when I was a kid and I remember Nike being popular not because it was more expensive.. but because it was Nike. Anyways, have a good night! Hope all of you find peace with the outcome of the election soon or you're in for a rough 4 years.

Not all of us are as willing to sit back and quietly get fucked up the ass as you are, but thanks for your phony concern.

 

[excelsiorlef]

I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying the laughing over who is at the inauguration is silly. Other topics? Yea legitimate. But I actually like 3 doors down... :/ And I felt bad for em with you guys laughing at em like they're terrible. It's their job... They need to pay bills too.. I dunno. Is what it is.

Yes because a band that is seemingly able to still tour despite not being musically relevant in almost 20 years is so broke they have to play for a racist white nationalist...

But please make them victims in this....

 

[tuxfool]

I appreciate your right to an opinion, if you wish to talk to me like that and not give your reasoning then it's your choice.

Dig a little deeper and you'll be able to see the point I was making.

 

[ElfArmy177]

Not all of us are as willing to sit back and quietly get fucked up the ass as you are, but thanks for your phony concern.

Sure thing. Lemme know if you need more I guess?

 

[rjinaz]

I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying the laughing over who is at the inauguration is silly. Other topics? Yea legitimate. But I actually like 3 doors down... :/ And I felt bad for em with you guys laughing at em like they're terrible. It's their job... They need to pay bills too.. I dunno. Is what it is.

I can kind of see your point. Maybe in these artists mind's it was worth being associated with Trump, maybe they need the attention that badly. If so, I can't fault them. If you are a fan, then great.

But somebody like Toby Keith, no excuse in my mind. Dude has a very successful career. he is there because he wants to be so I'll no longer be a fan of his.

 

[ElfArmy177]

I can kind of see your point. Maybe in these artists mind's it was worth being associated with Trump, maybe they need the attention that badly. If so, I can't fault them. If you are a fan, then great.

But somebody like Toby Keith, no excuse in my mind. Dude has a very successful career. he is there because he wants to be so I'll no longer be a fan of his.

I can respect that 100%

 

[Permanently A]

HOLY SHIT

its actually him lol

 

[Link]

I find it really interesting that so many people who claim they "didn't vote for Hillary or Trump" sure seem to come to his defense a whole lot.

This whole fake progressive movement is already the worst.

 

[metalslimer]

Here comes the Trump apologist. It doesn't matter what situation it is we can never call anything out or we are in the wrong making it literally impossible to ever condemn him

It's a shitty tactic meant to shut down conversation because liberals are supposed to be empathetic with people who literally want them dead or deported

 

[Mahonay]

Also, Steve Harvey met with Trump today. Never expected that. Trump must love showering people with cash to cave in or something.

Steve Harvey is a womanizing dirtbag, so they probably got along great....bigly even.

 

[rjinaz]

Not everybody who voted for Trump is a racist or sexist or homophone or islamaphobe, how can you be sure of this? It's impossible to know unless you know every single person that voted for him individually, you can't just lump people into a group and claim them to be something.

Decent people will listen as long as they are spoken to in a respectful and open manner, they may still not agree, there is never a guarentee of that but they will listen and likely respectfully disagree, if they are rude then you simply move forward in life.

This "one size fits all" approach to everything in life is, in my opinion, wrong and actually harmful.

Unless they voted for Trump completely ignorant of his stances and the things he said, at best you could say they are apathetic to race issue or the issue that would be caused by a Trump presidency and I would guess from a minority perspective in America, that's not much better.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Steve Harvey is a womanizing dirtbag, so they probably got along great....bigly even.

Its a shame, oh well, another Trumper I can write off. I'm not tolerating this. I don't give a crap who it is, you have Trump stink on you, we're done.

 

[rjinaz]

I find it really interesting that so many people who claim they "didn't vote for Hillary or Trump" sure seem to come to his defense a whole lot.

This whole fake progressive movement is already the worst.

It's usually people that don't live in the US, and are conveniently outside of it all. I mean of course they can cheer on Trump from a far. If I was watching a show, I'd want to root on the person that's going to be the most entertaining.

 

[Mahonay]

I find it really interesting that so many people who claim they "didn't vote for Hillary or Trump" sure seem to come to his defense a whole lot.

This whole fake progressive movement is already the worst.

In the words of Giant Bomb's Brad Shoemaker, these kind of people can "get fucked".

I can't stand it either.

 

[AntraxSuicide]

Not everybody who voted for Trump is a racist or sexist or homophone or islamaphobe, how can you be sure of this? It's impossible to know unless you know every single person that voted for him individually, you can't just lump people into a group and claim them to be something.

Decent people will listen as long as they are spoken to in a respectful and open manner, they may still not agree, there is never a guarentee of that but they will listen and likely respectfully disagree, if they are rude then you simply move forward in life.

This "one size fits all" approach to everything in life is, in my opinion, wrong and actually harmful.

Anyone who voted for him finds these things acceptable. That should not be acceptable to you should you care about people of color and other minorities.

 

[rjinaz]

I do not defend conservative views whatsoever, I voted labour in my country, they are a left leaning party, I don't "defend" anything, I just comment on what I believe is right at that moment in time based on what I have seen or read, my opinions are fluid.

Just because I try to see the world from both viewpoints does not mean I am picking sides.

People have rarely debated me, the very few that have have always ended in meaningful and decent discussion, there is rarely much to debate anyway because I share a lot of peoples views on here, just because I debate specific incidents doesn't mean I am aligned with a side.

Feel free to go through my post history and check the responses from people towards me and highlight any of the constructive debate people have had where they have pointed me towards evidence or been respectful rather than just saying I am defending Trump or something along those lines.

Me saying Trump isn't Hitler isn't defending him, it's me being sick of hyperbole and recognising that Hitler commuted mass murder.

I think that's over simplfying that comparisons to Hitler, and you know that. I'm not an expert on Hitler nor do I use that analogy but there certainly are parallels especially the rise of Hitler. I don't think anybody believes Trump is going to kill millions, but he doesn't have to to believe he is a dangerous fascist dictator in the making.

 

[Mahonay]

Me saying Trump isn't Hitler isn't defending him, it's me being sick of hyperbole and recognising that Hitler commuted mass murder.

Trump literally quoting Mussolini

 

[RPGCrazied]

Trump literally quoting Mussolini

And he wants to register Muslims in a database.

His ex wife said he kept a book of Hitler speeches by his bedside.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

that really is one of the worst lineups in the history of lineups

 

[marzlapin]

Not everybody who voted for Trump is a racist or sexist or homophone or islamaphobe, how can you be sure of this? It's impossible to know unless you know every single person that voted for him individually, you can't just lump people into a group and claim them to be something.

Decent people will listen as long as they are spoken to in a respectful and open manner, they may still not agree, there is never a guarentee of that but they will listen and likely respectfully disagree, if they are rude then you simply move forward in life.

This "one size fits all" approach to everything in life is, in my opinion, wrong and actually harmful.

People who voted for Trump are either racist, or they feel like racism (or homophobia or sexism) is not a dealbreaking quality for a President of the US to have. This is true of 100% of Trump voters, and you can't even say they are passively allowing racism because a vote is a conscious action. They actively put a racist in power.

 

[Not]

I am not a Trump apologist. I am not saying people can't call anything out, I am trying to encourage conversation not shut it down?

If you're really a rational moderate, maybe your talents would be better served introducing progressive concepts to extreme conservatives in their own language than vice versa?

 

[LionPride]

Not everybody who voted for Trump is a racist or sexist or homophone or islamaphobe, how can you be sure of this? It's impossible to know unless you know every single person that voted for him individually, you can't just lump people into a group and claim them to be something.

Decent people will listen as long as they are spoken to in a respectful and open manner, they may still not agree, there is never a guarentee of that but they will listen and likely respectfully disagree, if they are rude then you simply move forward in life.

This "one size fits all" approach to everything in life is, in my opinion, wrong and actually harmful.

If you voted for a man who said all the terrible things he said, that means you are okay with it. That's it. Bottom Line.

 

[tuxfool]

If you voted for a man who said all the terrible things he said, that means you are okay with it. That's it. Bottom Line.

The world is complicated place, but some things are just that simple.

 

[soundahfekz]

If you voted for a man who said all the terrible things he said, that means you are okay with it. That's it. Bottom Line.

Yup

 

[rjinaz]

If you voted for a man who said all the terrible things he said, that means you are okay with it. That's it. Bottom Line.

No doubt in my mind. The same people like my Stepfather that think Obama is to blame for current racial tensions And when things inevitably get worse under Trump because he's going to be active in making their lives worse, the blame will still somehow fall on Obama.

They just want Black people to shut up already and stop causing racism.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Why would you come into a thread about how doodoo the lineup is for Trump's inauguration bash and try to chastise people anyway

come on son

 

[Enzom21]

I am not a Trump apologist. I am not saying people can't call anything out, I am trying to encourage conversation not shut it down?

What conversation? Mexican's are rapists and murderers, racist tweets:

etc. etc.
Trump supporters knew what they were voting for so at the very least, they're okay with racism. I am perfectly fine with calling all of them racists though.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

Be glad you aren't living in the UK right now, it's a clusterfuck. I was for brexit because I believed they would put money back into our health services and look how that has turned out, brexit was a mistake, we were lied to and that right there is why you never know what will happen, Clinton or Trump, they all lie in the end and most of them never fulfill the promises they make.

I feel like you learned the wrong lesson from that. Lots of people predicted the clusterfuck, you just tuned them out to believe in a lie. The onus is on you to evaluate claims, not just assume that everyones lying and pick the one that sounds better on the surface. Thats how mistakes are made.

 

[metalslimer]

It sounds just because you were duped into being pro Brexit you feel sympathy for other people duped....?

Sorry you didn't listen to the people clearly explaining why it was bs but that's on you. Same for Trump supporters

 

[excelsiorlef]

What makes you think I don't?

Well one if you were American you'd have likely been encouraging people to vote third party instead of the only person who had a shot to beat him because both sides and etc... How would that have helped anyone?

 

[tuxfool]

I feel like you learned the wrong lesson from that. Lots of people predicted the clusterfuck, you just tuned them out to believe in a lie. The onus is on you to evaluate claims, not just assume that everyones lying and pick the one that sounds better on the surface. Thats how mistakes are made.

Indeed. I love the fact that he is claiming to be the informed rational here. Writing long screeds of scepticism and yet he fell for the most obvious of lies.

There are literally millions of people that could have told him Brexit was bullshit.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Man for someone who was done with OT, he sure loves writing out essays in OT.

 

[tuxfool]

I am somewhat amused at the irony at a regretful Brexiter telling other people that they should give bullshitters a chance.