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INCEPTION |OT| Movie of the Forever

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I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but this was just an alright movie. Mostly dull with some interesting points here and there and solid acting all around. Nothing original or outstanding in my opinion, but still a decent way to spend a few hours on a lazy Saturday.

Nolan hasn't made a bad movie yet, though.
 
pakkit said:
The
3rd dream sequence (snow) really bothered me. It was overly violent and just consisted of the team putting away an army as if they were nothing. Very Bond, and very out of place with the rest of the movie. Who the fuck dreams of Bond sets anyway? This is supposed to a guy's dream about what he thinks his business partner [who may or may not be betraying him] is dreaming and we get taken to a MGS set-piece?

There weren't any big twists ala TDK either, and the ending was a cheap "let's fuck with the audience" moment (that the viewer could forsee in the very beginning).
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It wasn't supposed to be a guy's dream about the business partner. Fischer was tricked into filling that level with his subconscious, thinking it was his godfather's subconscious. The dream was actually Eames'. The point of the level being so remote and secure and complex (including the super secret safe in the middle) was that it would be so secure, the subject's subconscious would put something very secret inside. This worked in two levels: one, that Fischer would think that his godfather was hiding a real deep truth about his father inside; and, two, as a result, when he goes in and incepts his own subconscious, the idea would hold, because it was planted in a place so deep.
 
Nazgul_Hunter said:
It wasn't supposed to be a guy's dream about the business partner. Fischer was tricked into filling that level with his subconscious, thinking it was his godfather's subconscious. The dream was actually Eames'. The point of the level being so remote and secure and complex (including the super secret safe in the middle) was that it would be so secure, the subject's subconscious would put something very secret inside. This worked in two levels: one, that Fischer would think that his godfather was hiding a real deep truth about his father inside; and, two, as a result, when he goes in and incepts his own subconscious, the idea would hold, because it was planted in a place so deep.
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Nicely said.
 
doitlive said:
Watched it on Thursday.
The whispers of "Metal Gear" were audible when they showed the base in the snow.:lol
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I can see that, but as soon as I saw the third level I immediatedly wondered how much Modern Warfare 2 Nolan had played :lol Especially with all the snowmobiles and such. Actually, that could be Bad Company 2 as well.
 
Solo said:
Jesus H, GAF :lol Kojima doesn't have a copyright on bad guy bases in snowy areas, you know? It was Nolan's attempt to pay homage to OHMSS more than anything else. I doubt Nolan plays games.
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Give it up, no one has heard of OHMSS




...until Nolan remakes it in 2014.
 
MassiveAttack said:
Same here - I was wondering what Kojima's reaction would be as soon as the snow base appeared.
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" So yeah, fuck Sony Pictures- We're definitely giving the rights to do adapt Metal Gear Solid, to Warner Bros now..."
 
soundscream said:
I would say that I agree with it up to a point.
the fact that he performed inception on his wife leads me to believe it was real and not all a dream
however I like that the movie can be viewed in many different ways, and gives everyone their own personal experience.
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But ..
if it was all a dream then anything is possible leading him to believe that the idea of inception is workable because he did it on his wife. It is his dream after all, he created himself to be the best in the world and important. So just because he pulled inception on his wife doesn't really mean anything at all, imo
 
Veidt said:
" So yeah, fuck Sony Pictures- We're definitely giving the rights to do adapt Metal Gear Solid, to Warner Bros now..."
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Only if Nolan handles the script. If we let Kojima near it it will be shit :lol
 
Green Scar said:
But only Kojima can do Metal Gear ;)
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As much as I love Kojima. Just no. :lol
He's a good creator. The concept of metal gear is god-like. But he just can't do it justice when it comes to film making. Even the writing isn't all that good. " Can love bloom on the battlefield?"- it's great that Hayter understood both the greatness and shortcomings of MGS. He would have been perfect.Too bad Sony threw him out of writing.

Give the franchise to Nolan. Let Hayter write, and keep Kojima nearby, that should make it turn out great.

/a gaming nerd's dreams.
 
Veidt said:
As much as I love Kojima. Just no. :lol
He's a good creator. The concept of metal gear is god-like. But he just can't do it justice when it comes to film making. Even the writing isn't all that good. " Can love bloom on the battlefield?"- it's great that Hayter understood both the greatness and shortcomings of MGS. He would have been perfect.Too bad Sony through him out of writing.

Give the franchise to Nolan. Let Hayter write, and keep Kojima nearby, that should make it turn out great.

/a gaming nerd's dreams.
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I always felt that, even when Metal Gear is genuinely good (like MGS3, as opposed to MGS2 which is good in a bizarro WTF-is-going-on-and-why-do-i-love-it way), it's always got a side to it which is just plain shit. The stuff like the kinda naff controls, the stupid plot and the way it's presented and all the other little 'Kojima-isms' are this shit side, but that is also completely what defines Metal Gear, and giving it to a completely talented director like Nolan in order to make a fiilm out of it would destroy its spirit, I think. It'd produce a good film, probably, but it wouldn't be Metal Gear. Metal Gear is a wonderfully imperfect franchise, because it's always come from a wonderfully imperfect creator- Kojima.

But I definitely agree that a Kojima-designed MGS film would be horrific...

Alex Navarro I believe mentioned on the Screened.com podcast that Inception is the kind of film which is a film through and through, and just wouldn't be the same otherwise- it can't be novelised, it can't be enacted on stage, because that wouldn't work, it has too many qualities rooted in cinema's unique features. I believe that Metal Gear is much the same- a videogame where bringing it to another medium would lose so much of what made it great, because it plays with the videogaming medium to such an extent.

So basically, no-one should make a Metal Gear film. I'd take Super Mario Bros The Movie 2 before an MGS film to be frank :lol

/rambling
 
Definitely agree.
But "So basically, no-one should make a Metal Gear film."
You've jinxed it now, bro. Someone is bound to make a shit film and ruin the franchise, much like everything else that is beloved to us :lol
 
Veidt said:
Definitely agree.
But "So basically, no-one should make a Metal Gear film."
You've jinxed it now, bro. Someone is bound to make a shit film and ruin the franchise, much like everything else that is beloved to us :lol
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OK, I'll reverse it. Someone should TOTALLY make a Metal Gear film AND a Zone of the Enders movie. Yay, now we're safe :lol
 
MassiveAttack said:
I've now met three people (completely unrelated) who say they walked out of the film, including one guy who walked out after 45 minutes.

I don't how it's possible to walk out of a film like this.
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You dont know because you are not an idiot.
 
DMczaf said:
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How fitting. And he play the Riddler in Batman 3.
 
Just come back from seeing it a second time. As good, if not better, when viewed again.

I've picked up on so much more this time around. I feel ready to read the spoiler thread now and contribute hopefully :lol
 
Solo said:
Jesus H, GAF :lol Kojima doesn't have a copyright on bad guy bases in snowy areas, you know? It was Nolan's attempt to pay homage to OHMSS more than anything else. I doubt Nolan plays games.
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Nolan fucking loves Metal Gear Solid and you know it.
 
It has a David Arnold QoS vibe to it, but when I think of the "James Bond sound", I think of John Barry, which this doesn't evoke.
 
what was the moral? learn to let go?

need to watch it again to clarify some holes.
how does the guy change appearences in the dreams?
?
 
Good film, I was thoroughly impressed with it---though I did "wake up" (meaning some scenes took me out of the movie) a few times.

My thoughts:
If the process of inception is possible in their world, which would have to be real in order for the film to make sense, I'm assuming that Cob is in an "opium den"/dream den, like the one he visited in a scene. He probably did have a wife who created dreamworlds with him and who died, but he soon left reality after her death. Like those at the den, he can feel alive only in dreams.



Also, this has probably been said a few times, but from experience
one doesn't feel pain and can actually breath under water in dreams
. It doesn't matter though.

Oh, and my dreams are always so random and strange, I was expecting things to get "odd" but (imo) they never did. Their dreams
are much too linear, but maybe that's because they can control them
. :lol
I was a little disappointed when I realized that they were going to spend the whole movie focusing on "one target's" dreams. Midway though, I imagined an Inception 2, in which things would be like Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence.
 
So I went to the theater to see this movie in New Jersey. Right after the first shared
dream with Ariadne moving the mirrors,
a thunderstorm hit and knocked the power out at the theater. They had to evacuate the entire mall.

I have not seen beyond that scene. I'm like clawing at the walls to find out what happens :lol
 
Y2Kev said:
So I went to the theater to see this movie in New Jersey. Right after the first shared
dream with Ariadne moving the mirrors,
a thunderstorm hit and knocked the power out at the theater. They had to evacuate the entire mall.

I have not seen beyond that scene. I'm like clawing at the walls to find out what happens :lol
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Don't look anything up! :P You'll just ruin it that way, go see it again soon.
 
I thought it was PART of the movie. Like part of the dream
being manipulated or collapsing
. I was like, "Wow, this is really innovative." But 'twas not to be :D
 
Definitely appreciated the film more the second time around because I was able to give more of my attention to the character narrative as opposed to the sci-fi/heist narrative.

Whoever said Cillian Murphy was the best performer in the film was 100% on the money. The way some sequences are filmed in terms of blocking and general camera movement are truly inspired. I still think
the whole snow-base siege and any action that lies within that isn't the avalance is completely throwaway based on how haphazardly it was filmed and cut.

I now await Gravity as my next Hurry The Fuck Up And Get Here sci-fi movie.
 
Went to see it again today. Think I'm done with Inception until it comes out on BluRay.

One thing I have to say, too much pointless action and minion killing --and most of it done in a matter of fact way that get's dull after about the third time. They should have trimmed some of it for narrative or just make the movie shorter.
 
Didn't much care for the chase scene.

Anyway, now that that's out of the way, what an amazing piece of work. Like I said in another thread, I have nothing but respect for a group of minds who can create something like this with such vision on such a high-scale budget. It's so rare to see a 'blockbuster' that feels fresh nowadays.

I had high expectations and I loved nearly every moment of it. The three-layer final act was just masterful. Can't wait to see it again on home release.
 
Solo said:
Jesus H, GAF :lol Kojima doesn't have a copyright on bad guy bases in snowy areas, you know? It was Nolan's attempt to pay homage to OHMSS more than anything else. I doubt Nolan plays games.
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Agreed. If MGS is the first thing that pop into your mind when you see the snow area, you should probably kill yourself.
 
Truant said:
Agreed. If MGS is the first thing that pop into your mind when you see the snow area, you should probably kill yourself.
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Nah, there were plenty of MGS whispers in my theater too.

Two rows back someone whispered "A Hind D? Colonel, what's a russian airship doing here?"

I couldn't help but laugh.
 
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