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INCEPTION |OT| Movie of the Forever

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Pretty cool mock poster:

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So i saw the film a week ago, but my computer has been broken but i just wanted to say:

Was the ending a dream? A spinning top that keeps spinning means they are in a dream state right? Its just my friend disagrees so im not sure what to think
 
Drealmcc0y said:
So i saw the film a week ago, but my computer has been broken but i just wanted to say:

Was the ending a dream? A spinning top that keeps spinning means they are in a dream state right? Its just my friend disagrees so im not sure what to think

head to the spoilers thread.

well the top looked like it was going to fall as well, then the camera cuts. WHO KNOWS. there's no right answer though, they filmed it to look like his memory, the kids didn't seem to have aged etc. But the top looks like it's going to fall, it wobbles
 
catfish said:
head to the spoilers thread.

well the top looked like it was going to fall as well, then the camera cuts. WHO KNOWS. there's no right answer though, they filmed it to look like his memory, the kids didn't seem to have aged etc. But the top looks like it's going to fall, it wobbles

Really? wow what a bastard Nolan is lol
 
Drealmcc0y said:
Really? wow what a bastard Nolan is lol

Pretty much. I said 'fuck!' under my breath when it happened :lol Almost ruined the movie for me, before I remembered the rest of it is OMG SO GOOD

By the way, this film is OMG SO GOOD
 
Green Scar said:
Pretty much. I said 'fuck!' under my breath when it happened :lol Almost ruined the movie for me, before I remembered the rest of it is OMG SO GOOD

By the way, this film is OMG SO GOOD

Nawww i still like the ending.

He's still a bastard though :lol
 
Deku said:
Easily one of my favorite films in recent memory. Though I've accepted its classification as sci-fi, I have a hard time putting it in with my sci-fi top 10. The rest are either actually cerebral or just stuff blowing up.

But it is sci-fi--of a sort not commonly seen in Hollywood, but speculative nonetheless. Hopefully, its success leads to an understanding that less typically-hinged cerebral or explosion-y type genre fiction can be translated into film.
 
Tim the Wiz said:
But it is sci-fi--of a sort not commonly seen in Hollywood, but speculative nonetheless. Hopefully, its success leads to an understanding that less typically-hinged cerebral or explosion-y type genre fiction can be translated into film.

Yeah, I agree, it's definitely sci-fi. The whole movie revolves around 2 concepts- the science of the mind, and the fiticious sciences of extraction and inception. It's more sci-fi than Star Wars, for example, could ever dream of being.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
I don't think that I've ever had such a drop from the initial "film high" to "pretty good, but not great" as I have with this film.


The Dark Knight :lol Im starting to realize that Christopher Nolan's films have this effect, or at least his most recent ones. Although I havent seen Inception a second time yet, so I dont know if I will have the same experience with it as I did TDK with repeat viewings.
 
Solo said:
The Dark Knight :lol Im starting to realize that Christopher Nolan's films have this effect, or at least his most recent ones. Although I havent seen Inception a second time yet, so I dont know if I will have the same experience with it as I did TDK with repeat viewings.
I really don't believe I have it in me to see again. I didn't even get the same high as I did with Dark Knight. :lol
 
Solo said:
The Dark Knight :lol Im starting to realize that Christopher Nolan's films have this effect, or at least his most recent ones. Although I havent seen Inception a second time yet, so I dont know if I will have the same experience with it as I did TDK with repeat viewings.
I think while this is true of The Dark Knight, it's the exception with Nolan (well, Insomnia too).

Memento, for example, only got better to me the second viewing. The couple after that still managed to offer something. The Prestige as well.
I would say the same for Inception after seeing it twice, but I'd obviously want to give it some time before coming to that conclusion. It's definitely not as openly flawed as TDK.
 
Finally got around to watching this today and it was enjoyable but i really don't see what the hype and love is all about. Sorry gaf :(

Some of the set pieces were amazing as expected and the idea was fascinating but for some reason it just didn't blow me away. The ending scene was predictable, it made me go, oh yea there it is instead of omg no way hype hype.
 
Nah, I just watched a second time today. It's still great. The zero g action scene is still fantastic and the emotion between cobb and molly drew me in much more than the first viewing. Everything became clearer, yet the action didn't die making the movie really enjoyable.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
Bu-bu-but it won't make back its marketing budget! :D

Did anyone actually say that? WB got the marketing spot on though. I'm thinking that maybe they abandoned Jonah Hex completely to give the TV ad money to Nolan.
 
irfan said:
The Warner Bros/Legendary Pictures' Inception is now only the 5th film this year to gross over $100M in its first week of release joining Toy Story 3, Alice In Wonderland, Iron Man 2, and the Twilight Saga: Eclipse. But it's the only 2D original film to do so. Warner Bros says the official number going into today is $100,155,000.
Nolan pissing on 3D's face.gif

Iron Man 2 was released in 3D?

Edit: nvm, emphasis also on "original"
 
Where are the people I was arguing with a few days ago on Inception's box office potential? Don't make me pull out the quotes, now. ;)

It's like a repeat of Avatar, during last year's Comic Con when I was saying the movie would be a huge event and make a lot of bank, and everyone else including Scullibundo was either fretting over Fox's marketing or thought nobody would want to see the "stupid blue people", simply because it turned them off. It was particularly amusing when people were trying to say that no women would go see Avatar.

Word-of-mouth. Water cooler talk. Underestimate these things at your own peril. When people hear of this "cool mindfuck" of a movie, they'll want to go see it to see what all the fuss is about. It's human nature to be curious, and to want to belong to the group.
 
Zeliard said:
Where are the people I was arguing with a few days ago on Inception's box office potential? Don't make me pull out the quotes, now. ;)

It's like a repeat of Avatar, during last year's Comic Con when I was saying the movie would be a huge event and make a lot of bank, and everyone else including Scullibundo was either fretting over Fox's marketing or thought nobody would want to see the "stupid blue people", simply because it turned them off. It was particularly amusing when people were trying to say that no women would go see Avatar.

Word-of-mouth. Water cooler talk. Underestimate these things at your own peril. When people hear of this "cool mindfuck" of a movie, they'll want to go see it to see what all the fuss is about. It's human nature to be curious, and to want to belong to the group.

To be fair, I never thought Avatar would bomb. I even had ban bets that it would make more than its budget+marketing costs at the theatre. But yes, I thought FOX's plan to start marketing the biggest film on their slate for the decade only 8 weeks out from release was a big fuck up.
 
Just got back from seeing it...my mind has officially been blown. :D

This is one of the most creative, different, thought-provoking, smart movies I’ve seen in a really, really long time. It was just so fresh, and unlike any movie I've seen before!

I had pretty low expectations after thinking both of the recent Batman movies were overrated, but I was really into this one, and am actually liking it the more I think about it!

The soundtrack was also incredible! And the layers and layers of dreams was brilliant...just very clever stuff! I got a little restless at certain points, but overall it was fantastic!

Oh, and the ending was perfect! Not sure what rating I’d give it yet.
 
Probably already mentioned, but here -in Mexico- the movie had a limited opening. Only independent movie theaters are exhibiting it, but too bad most of them suck. Hope we can see it in the major theaters soon (Cinemex, Cinépolis, probably by next week).

Right now I'm in Saltillo (close to Monterrey), and the theater that's exhibiting it today is below my quality standards lol. I would go to see it anyway but it also has the worst schedule for me :lol.

Damn, hope I can watch it by next week :(
 
Pinko Marx said:
Yeah it was brought up earlier. After watching a second time, some things just don't match up with his theory. I watched the movie with this essay in mind and I find that I just don't agree with it.

Hmm well I havent seen it the second time yet so I can't say yet..

I need to see this movie again, it's too fucking captivating on my mind.
 
I like the film. At the moment, I can't say that it's one of my favorite just yet because there are a few things I have problems with. In general, I understand the film quite easily except for the last few minutes where things just went off far too quickly. My mind just couldn't catch up and reconcile all of the information presented with me.
The whole limbo/simultaneous kick scenes were happening at too rapid pace for my liking (it was cool though).

I think the ending can be interpreted in two ways:

1. It's just one of those meaningless "surprise" shock like the ones in horror movies where it turns out the villain is still alive. In this case, it's just a throw-off scene to shock/confuse the audience. But the real movie actually ended the minute Cobb returns to the US.

2. The whole thing really was just a dream in Cobb's mind. Many things in the film support this from Cobb and Saito somehow meeting in the same limbo or their sudden return to the "real world". Because if it's just a dream in Cobb's mind, then of course, it doesn't matter that a few things/details went missing in the story.

This, however, kind of making me sad because it's likely that Arthur, Ariadne, and Earnes may not even be real. They are all just figments of Cobb's imagination. Or if they exist, they are not these individuals working for a dream-invading team.
 
Solo said:
The Dark Knight :lol Im starting to realize that Christopher Nolan's films have this effect, or at least his most recent ones. Although I havent seen Inception a second time yet, so I dont know if I will have the same experience with it as I did TDK with repeat viewings.

Well we've agreed to disagree on TDK in the past, so I'm not touching that one. I STILL love TDK, warts and all, because it's everything that I have ever wanted, aesthetically speaking, from a superhero film (and my estimation of Bale's performance actually revises UP every time that I watch it, so I'm the opposite of you in that respect). Inception had amazing art design and had Cobb's very emotional story, but it's very heavily tipped in favor of flash in the flash:substance ratio. I guess I just wanted... more. I thought it was going to be like Eternal Sunshine in the way that it used dreams to explore something deeper about human psychology/philosophy, but it feels like the dreams were ends unto themselves. It's a pretty great movie, but it's not the masterpiece for which I was hoping.
 
Replicant said:
I like the film. At the moment, I can't say that it's one of my favorite just yet because there are a few things I have problems with. In general, I understand the film quite easily except for the last few minutes where things just went off far too quickly. My mind just couldn't catch up and reconcile all of the information presented with me.
The whole limbo/simultaneous kick scenes were happening at too rapid pace for my liking (it was cool though).

I think the ending can be interpreted in two ways:

1. It's just one of those meaningless "surprise" shock like the ones in horror movies where it turns out the villain is still alive. In this case, it's just a throw-off scene to shock/confuse the audience. But the real movie actually ended the minute Cobb returns to the US.

2. The whole thing really was just a dream in Cobb's mind. Many things in the film support this from Cobb and Saito somehow meeting in the same limbo or their sudden return to the "real world". Because if it's just a dream in Cobb's mind, then of course, it doesn't matter that a few things/details went missing in the story.

This, however, kind of making me sad because it's likely that Arthur, Ariadne, and Earnes may not even be real. They are all just figments of Cobb's imagination. Or if they exist, they are not these individuals working for a dream-invading team.

The top drops in the end, you can hear it. Its not something spoon fed so some people might be offended and get their panties in a twist.
 
irfan said:
The top drops in the end, you can hear it. Its not something spoon fed so some people might be offended and get their panties in a twist.

Interesting. I didn't hear that. I'd pay attention to it the next time I see it again. Like I said, I did guess that it could be a throwaway ending which has no bearing on the rest of the story. I think if they want to go with sequel, it'd have to be a throwaway ending
(as in the whole thing was real and not just Cobb's dream)
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Replicant said:
Interesting. I didn't hear that. I'd pay attention to it the next time I see it again. Like I said, I did guess that it could be a throwaway ending which has no bearing on the rest of the story. I think if they want to go with sequel, it'd have to be a throwaway ending
(as in the whole thing was real and not just Cobb's dream)
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I didnt hear it on my first viewing either, I just head gasps. :lol Then I read the interview of that Patil guy, the actor who plays the role of the guy who concocts the drugs.. I will pay attention when I go for my second viewing this weekend.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Well we've agreed to disagree on TDK in the past, so I'm not touching that one. I STILL love TDK, warts and all, because it's everything that I have ever wanted, aesthetically speaking, from a superhero film (and my estimation of Bale's performance actually revises UP every time that I watch it, so I'm the opposite of you in that respect).


Fair enough. I just find it intriguing that rewatching Nolan's movies generally pushes me far one way or the other; I merely enjoyed The Prestige in theatres, but LOVED it after subsequent Blu-ray rewatches, whereas I loved TDK theatrically, and now can't even finish it.

Going to see Inception a second time next week, so Ill be interested to see how it sits.
 
Solo said:
Fair enough. I just find it intriguing that rewatching Nolan's movies generally pushes me far one way or the other; I merely enjoyed The Prestige in theatres, but LOVED it after subsequent Blu-ray rewatches, whereas I loved TDK theatrically, and now can't even finish it.

Going to see Inception a second time next week, so Ill be interested to see how it sits.

I agree. The Prestige really is his best film, though; thematic complexity PLUS deep, changing characters means that Nolan does have the ability to make a fully satisfying package, even if he chooses not to do it all of the time.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
I don't think that I've ever had such a drop from the initial "film high" to "pretty good, but not great" as I have with this film.

There are a lot of individual elements that really stand out to me, but overall, I just don't feel as bowled over as I was expecting.

The movie has its faults, but after giving a few days, I warmed up to Inception even more. Now I'm not sure where I stand on which movie is better this year: Shutter Island or Inception. As far as roles go, I can easily pick Leo for Shutter Island. Cinematography? Shutter Island wipes the floor all over Inception. Overall? Hmmm. Hard to say.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
I agree. The Prestige really is his best film, though; thematic complexity PLUS deep, changing characters means that Nolan does have the ability to make a fully satisfying package, even if he chooses not to do it all of the time.

Jonathan Nolan had a huge hand in penning the screenplay as well.
 
watching it a second time i didnt worry about trying to understand the mechanics of the dreams, and I really felt a lot more emotion in the cobb/mal story line, and the end of the movie hit me a lot harder...
 
I saw it today with my father. It's definitely a Nolan movie (i.e. drowning you in drama, constant musical swells).

I though it was pretty good, but it was overly Hollywood (a problem that gets overlooked in something like TDK because...it's a Batman movie). Everyone was a cliche, so there wasn't much need for personality. The
3rd dream sequence (snow) really bothered me. It was overly violent and just consisted of the team putting away an army as if they were nothing. Very Bond, and very out of place with the rest of the movie. Who the fuck dreams of Bond sets anyway? This is supposed to a guy's dream about what he thinks his business partner [who may or may not be betraying him] is dreaming and we get taken to a MGS set-piece?

There weren't any big twists ala TDK either, and the ending was a cheap "let's fuck with the audience" moment (that the viewer could forsee in the very beginning).

That said, the movie was pretty good. It's just an interesting idea, and Nolan's interpretation was visually and aurally arresting. It's a great place to set a movie, but I agree with some of the critics that say it wasn't very dream-like. Dreams are very hazy, slightly odd, but real. Here it just seemed like dreams were a reinterpretation of the Matrix.

The effect of gravity on dreams was a nice touch, as I've definitely incorporated real world sounds/effects into my dreams.

And, of course, Nolan can't write a script unless it has tons of plot holes. He has his excuses lined up, though. In TDK, it was a superhero movie! In this,
it could've been all a dream.

The most interesting aspect for me was the inner turmoil of DiCaprio and his interactions with his wife. I wish the movie had focused more on that, instead of
just slowly leaking info in a very linear "this is a movie" fashion.
I'd give it a 7/10, it's a great idea turned into a pretty good Hollywood flick.

My dad, however, hated it.:lol
 
I've now met three people (completely unrelated) who say they walked out of the film, including one guy who walked out after 45 minutes.

I don't how it's possible to walk out of a film like this.
 
harSon said:
Jonathan Nolan had a huge hand in penning the screenplay as well.

Jonathan Nolan had his hand in TDK as well, but that is a film of thematic complexity rather than of well-developed characters.

I'm hoping that Batman 3 is a 'merging' of sorts between the personal, character-driven drama of BB and the epic, thematically-driven ride of TDK.
 
Add me to the believers. Amazing film.
The genius in it more than makes up for whatever flaws it may have (and it certainly does have some). The hallway fight scene is, to me, the best action sequence ever. It sent chills down my spine...
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Jonathan Nolan had his hand in TDK as well, but that is a film of thematic complexity rather than of well-developed characters.

I'm hoping that Batman 3 is a 'merging' of sorts between the personal, character-driven drama of BB and the epic, thematically-driven ride of TDK.
If Batman 3 can hit the same notes as Prestige did(Perfect Nolan Balance between Plot and characters). It would definitely make it the best of the trilogy.
 
Jesus H, GAF :lol Kojima doesn't have a copyright on bad guy bases in snowy areas, you know? It was Nolan's attempt to pay homage to OHMSS more than anything else. I doubt Nolan plays games.
 
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