BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
I actually did like the movie. I can't say I wasn't entertained... I just probably dislike the intensity of the positivity its getting more than you. :lolNeuromancer said:
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Neuromancer
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Probably... I was just happy to see Christopher Nolan do something other than Batman again. :lolBobsRevenge said:
On an unrelated note, I think my dad would like this movie because there was a
"snow level." (Every video game I show him, he asks me if there's a "snow level" and wants to see it. :lol)
Blader5489 said:
This. In the end, it's all subjective. Probably more people nowadays are going to take more away from Inception than they would from A Serious Man. Remember that most people go to watch movies to "escape" the reality that they're living in, not watch somebody else's.
GhaleonEB said:
This is awesome news. But it can only suffer like 5% drop today if it actually wants to hit that $100M mark. If it comes out to $99.89M, I'm gonna be pissed. :lol
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Most people don't know that. Go around asking people what the meaning of life is and see how many people say "Nothing." It doesn't shed light on some great truth about life. It sheds light on the fact that there is no great truth about life.Blader5489 said:
Its certainly worth saying more than "Look at this huge complex thing I built out of these blocks. How cool is that shit!?"
Its also not redundant. The movie doesn't have any fat to trim. How else could it push its point home with that ending? Oh my god, how was that ending not awesome? Its just as much of a punch in the face as the ending to Inception, except it actually means something.
BobsRevenge said:Most people don't know that. Go around asking people what the meaning of life is and see how many people say "Nothing." It doesn't shed light on some great truth about life. It sheds light on the fact that there is no great truth about life.
Then these are people who simply don't want to think that way. Someone who believes there's a divine purpose to their life isn't going to watch A Serious Man and suddenly think, "Hey, maybe my life is meaningless after all."
I wasn't saying anything in relation to whatever message Inception has, I was just solely refuting your point on A Serious Man.
I wasn't talking about within the context of the film, but in general; the movie doesn't you tell you something you don't already know, hence redundant.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Those movies don't have the same message. A Serious Man is much more spartan in its message, and more nihilistic.nemesun said:
Look at the ending lines:
A Serious Man:
Hey, Fagle! Fagle, I got your... *looks up at massive tornado coming at them*
vs.
American Beauty:
I had always heard your entire life flashes in front of your eyes the second before you die. First of all, that one second isn't a second at all, it stretches on forever, like an ocean of time... For me, it was lying on my back at Boy Scout camp, watching falling stars... And yellow leaves, from the maple trees, that lined our street... Or my grandmother's hands, and the way her skin seemed like paper... And the first time I saw my cousin Tony's brand new Firebird... And Janie... And Janie... And... Carolyn. I guess I could be pretty pissed off about what happened to me... but it's hard to stay mad, when there's so much beauty in the world. Sometimes I feel like I'm seeing it all at once, and it's too much, my heart fills up like a balloon that's about to burst... And then I remember to relax, and stop trying to hold on to it, and then it flows through me like rain and I can't feel anything but gratitude for every single moment of my stupid little life... You have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm sure. But don't worry... you will someday.
Both are excellent though, and they both have something worth saying.
Don't write off movies that actually try to be important as Oscar attempts. Of course they want to win one. That's the way those movies become successful. And the academy wants to nominate those movies because they want them to be successful. Its the rubbing of backs that keeps more artistic movies going as economically viable. That doesn't take away from the impact of a movie even a little.
How could you think any less of the Coen Brothers and Sam Mendes?
I have Jewish relatives and most of them have seen that movie and their overall conclusion was that although Serious Man reminiscent with some aspect of their childhood years, and to some extent people they know in RL; the movie was a bloated narcissistic view of Jewish culture that had no bearing on its overall message.BobsRevenge said:
American Beauty on the other hand is truly a masterpiece that can not even be mentioned in a same breath as Serious Man. 7.3 is a right average for Serious Man.
With regards to American Beauty, it didn't even feel that shamelessly oscar-bait-y up until that part at the very end - which was hugely predictable (and classic Hollywood) but thankfully Kevin Spacey's performance really grounds that brief moment of complete stupidity. Other than that, I'd say just because American Beauty and a Serious Man are both good films that are somewhat lower budget doesn't make them automatic oscar-bait. Something like Brothers? Crash? That's Oscar bait. These are legitimately good movies that don't need a stupid and arbitrary label - Mendes and the Coen Brothers will find an audience regardless of whether they win an Oscar or not.
And as a side note, I thought A Serious Man was good, not great.
And as a side note, I thought A Serious Man was good, not great.
Skiptastic
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To be honest, from what I've seen this year, that was a very easy hurdle to clear. But I agree.
Neuromancer said:
Umm he has done only 2 Batman movies compared to his 5 non Batman movies.
I go see the movie tomorrow night so I can't comment. I might dislike it. I might love it. But why does the movie have to say something important to be one of the best ever? Star Wars is one of the best movies ever. So is Jaws. So are many other countless movies which compared to movies like A Serious Man or American Beauty do not say much about life. Its all subjective but the movie does not have to open your eyes to some hidden truth. It can be just entertaining to the point it one of the best to ever do it.
the_concierge
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Moved to spoiler thread
the_concierge
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nemesun said:
Yeah sorry about that, I was a bit over eager to reply to the general discussion here after just seeing the film. Anyone can feel free to read what I posted in the spoiler thread once they've seen the film for themselves
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macfoshizzle
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Ok, first of all, i loved the movie! saw it last weekend and i'm still thinking about it. i can't wait for this to come on bluray and listen to nolan's commentary because i have some questions... maybe you guys can answer for me.
towards the end, they said something about killing the japanese guy in the 3rd stage will put him in limbo or null state? so if killing yourself in limbo woke you up, why didn't the japanese guy just killed himself from the start to wake up?
at the end, did leo and japanese guy kill themselves to wake up in the plane?
at the end, did leo and japanese guy kill themselves to wake up in the plane?
Neuromancer
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Skiptastic said:
Kick Ass, Shutter Island, Iron Man 2, Toy Story 3...I don't know how many good movies people are expecting for half a year
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
I imagine it took him 1 year to write and 7 years to cover the plot holes inherent in such an incomprehensible premise.avaya said:
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Maybe that's what Nolan should've done after he realized his script wouldn't work.Blader5489 said:
jesus christ what am i doing here
Lumpy Onion
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Just got back from it. Best movie I have seen in a long time. Absolutely loved it!
Also really glad I knew pretty much nothing about it, having changed channels whenever the trailers were shown on TV. Damn, now I am debating wether to see it in IMAX while I can.
Edit: Also the soundtrack was fucking awesome!
Also really glad I knew pretty much nothing about it, having changed channels whenever the trailers were shown on TV. Damn, now I am debating wether to see it in IMAX while I can.
Edit: Also the soundtrack was fucking awesome!
avaya said:
I'm really not sure what to make of this post. :lol
Anyway, thought this was cool.
'Inception' Stars Reveal Secrets Behind Epic Van Scene
Cillian Murphy, Ken Watanabe and Dileep Rao describe the scene that took 'months, off and on' to shoot.
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MiamiWesker
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I just saw it again, yes it is one of the best movies I have ever seen. This is one of MY new favorites. I think it is a sci-fi classic and it will be talked about for a long time.
Ignatz Mouse
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Oh no... people have taken to comparing a new film I really love with one from last year I really love.
I do think A Serious Man is a better film than Inception, but there's no need to put down one in favor of the other. Both are fantastic.
I do think A Serious Man is a better film than Inception, but there's no need to put down one in favor of the other. Both are fantastic.
Ghost Writer was a good film, but it didn't seem as memorable. I also felt that for the ending,
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I enjoyed Shutter Island a lot. I also thought that Green Zone was quite solid.
Hopefully the next half of the year isn't as horrible as the first. Here is hoping that the new Coen Brothers film, Fincher film, e.t.c. are top quality.
The audience should've discovered the "twist" when Ruth reads the letter, so that the suspense and tension of the note passing scene would be tenfold
I enjoyed Shutter Island a lot. I also thought that Green Zone was quite solid.
Hopefully the next half of the year isn't as horrible as the first. Here is hoping that the new Coen Brothers film, Fincher film, e.t.c. are top quality.
Pinko Marx
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No one putting down your favorite movie, it was BobsRevenge as usual who brought knife to gun fight, it's like me discussing Schindler's list in Avatar thread. fucking stupid ass comparison but you can't help avoiding it in this thread. I wonder if in 68 people compared Chitty Chitty Bang Bang to Space Odyssey.....Ignatz Mouse said:
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Pinko Marx said:
:lol
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
It isn't a stupid comparison. I'm trying curb people's reactions to more reasonable levels is all. Maybe in a forced way... but still. Someone asked me what is a movie with importance or meaning and that was the first one that came to mind.nemesun said:
The fact that you make those stark comparison's yourself shows I'm at least a little effective!
You guys are lucky I didn't care enough about OT to come for the Avatar and District 9 threads, or else I'd have been annoying you guys there too. :lol :lol
I look at the metacritic page for those movies when I feel like I need to let out a good cry.
Prophet Steve
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Not to him, nor to many other people. I believe he said The Ghost Writer is the best movie of 2010 to him till this moment, so he probably would count that as great.Timbuktu said:
Dreams-Visions
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she does look like she could give a really good one.Pinko Marx said:
for real.
Good god man, you're the Armond White of Neogaf. Even artsy folks don't want you on their side.. I don't even want to know what you think of La Strada.BobsRevenge said:It isn't a stupid comparison. I'm trying curb people's reactions to more reasonable levels is all. Maybe in a forced way... but still. Someone asked me what is a movie with importance or meaning and that was the first one that came to mind.
The fact that you make those stark comparison's yourself shows I'm at least a little effective!
You guys are lucky I didn't care enough about OT to come for the Avatar and District 9 threads, or else I'd have been annoying you guys there too. :lol :lol
I look at the metacritic page for those movies when I feel like I need to let out a good cry.
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