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AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

But then I read Cinematical's six different, plausible interpretations of the what was going on in the movie.

My favorite is that Saito realizes at the beginning of the movie that Cobb is inside his head. Everything after that is Saito pulling a "Mr. Charles" and creating layer after layer of dreaming until Cobb accepts a prison in limbo. Key points in favor of that theory are (1) Saito plants the idea in Cobb's head that he can be reunited with his children; (2) Saito implausibly saves Cobb in Mombasa; (3) in the opium den, Saito stops Cobb from checking his spinning top to see if he's dreaming; (4) Saito explains the mission; (5) Fischer implausibly fails to recognize Saito even though they are major competitors; and (6) Saito makes it necessary for Cobb to go to Limbo.

Mal is Cobb's subconcious trying to protect him - - she keeps trying to convince him it's a dream using a variety of tactics: (1) killing the people that are misleading him; (2) using all sorts of temptation and coercion to provoke him into killing himself; and (3) explaining that the plot of the dream, that a mysterious conglomerate is out to get Cobb, is incredibly farfetched.
 
PowderedToast said:
please tell me how you got from that, to this:

"He's just so knowledgeable about films, that he believes that a great film, is the one that does something that has literally never been done before."

a clear exaggeration.

This is belitteling to the man's intellect when it comes to film. From everything you hear from him, you get the impression that this man knows his films. And is just on a

he made it quite clear why he was comparing them. from his review:

"Reality is neither perceived nor penetrated in Inception. Cobb’s dream obsession suggests pop-culture addiction, mirroring how consumers habitually escape reality with video games and movies. But Nolan never critiques this as Neveldine/Taylor did in Gamer"


i'm pretty sure he prefaced this, with "what i have played of them". i may be wrong.


again, you're sensationalising. he merely cautioned that people should try and avoid being lulled by large 'prestige' films like inception, and view them as objectively as they would any other film.


this more or less highlights how much you missed his point.


Now we're just arguing semantics.

I don't nearly care enough about the man, to keep doing this. So if it's okay with you. I'll just leave this discussion. :lol
 
Veidt said:
In his review he states:
"In the history of motion pictures, Bay has created the best canted angles—ever. "
Read that again. In the history of motion pictures.
Not only unique, but also the BEST in some aspects, as he put it. After reading his review, you don't come out with a neutral mindset on TF2. No, his intend is to praise it. Thus going by his words, it is not only a good film, but one that offers some of the BEST film making to be put on film. I don't know how you have not come to accept that Armond White thinks TF2 is a good film.

He thinks its a good film and some of the best in film making, in certain aspects. He has his personal reasons, he elaborates on them. That's his opinion.
He thinks there is literally nothing good about Inception. And he believes TF2 to have some of the best aspects of film making. That is who he is. We should accept it. And not try to put that aside.

This post makes me cringe.
 
Veidt said:
In his review he states:
"In the history of motion pictures, Bay has created the best canted angles—ever. "
Read that again. In the history of motion pictures.
Not only unique, but also the BEST in some aspects, as he put it. After reading his review, you don't come out with a neutral mindset on TF2. No, his intend is to praise it. Thus going by his words, it is not only a good film, but one that offers some of the BEST film making to be put on film. I don't know how you have not come to accept that Armond White thinks TF2 is a good film.
you've misunderstood me. i was not arguing that white didn't praise of TF2, but why he praised it. you claimed it was because 'it accepts what it is as a film', which he didn't say at any point in the podcast. he argued it's because it represents a unique, accomplished style of filmmaking. i was not putting his accolades for it aside in any respect.
 
DanielPlainview said:
Box office still going strong:

@giteshpandya: Inception dips just a tad TUE to $9.7M, -5% from MON, $82.7M in 5 days.

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But seriously, that's still damn impressive for a Tuesday. Most movies would be begging for that kind of turnout just over the weekend!

Still on pace for $100M in 7 days. I feel like it should go up over the next couple of days since it's getting closer to the weekend. :D
 
This week has been unbearable. I had to attend a wedding out of town this past weekend so I put off watching the movie till I got back to NYC so I could watch it on IMAX. I have my tickets now for fri night 8pm. OH GOD CAN NOT WAIT!
 
Opened today in South Korea... went and saw it and Nolan is a freakin' genius! So many ways you can interpret the end. I'm going to be thinking about this movie for a long time!!!
 
Hans Zimmer and Johnny Marr talk about the sad romance of 'Inception'

Los Angeles Times said:
Director Christopher Nolan turned to a familiar collaborator for the music of "Inception," this weekend's box office leader: It was Hans Zimmer, who brought the taut, dooming minimalist string arrangements that marked the sound of Nolan's two Batman films to this new dream-thief epic. But Zimmer looked beyond Nolan's coolly precise and complex cinematic visions when he actually got down to work.

For Zimmer, the soul of the film can be directly traced to famed French balladeer Édith Piaf. The multidimensional dream-within-a-dream action heist film is an elaborate puzzle, with a main character, Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) haunted by a past where dreams were made real and reality turned into nightmare. But, speaking the day after a special performance at the Hollywood premiere of the film, Zimmer said the role of the score was to amplify a less-discussed aspect of Nolan's tense film: romance.

"I’m nearly resentful of the way people are describing this music as being smart and intellectual," Zimmer said. "What I was writing was nostalgia and sadness. This character carries this sadness all the time that he cannot express. He’s been telling us about it all along, but no one knows how to listen. I think the job that Johnny and I had to do was write the heart of this thing."

At that premiere performance, Zimmer was joined on stage by Johnny Marr, the guitarist from The Smiths, who brought his own affinity for dark emotion to the "Inception" score. Marr, playing notes written by Zimmer, spent four 12-hour days contributing to the score. Utilizing a 12-string guitar, Marr's repetitive, simple and expatiated melancholic tones are woven into Zimmer's orchestral flourishes, yet they ultimately become attached to DiCaprio's character. Once past the trailer on the official "Inception" website, it's Marr's spooked accents that one first hears.

"I kept coming up with this phrase ‘churned-up,' " Marr said, describing the sound he wanted to capture. "You’ve got this character who all the way through the film has this underlying turmoil. It’s not necessarily upset, but he plays that so well. That’s a big part of the story. There’s all this attention being given to the environment, the concept and the heist, but underneath is a story about a person who is in utter torment."

Nolan's script, Zimmer said, offered clues as to how the musicians should dig beneath the surface of the characters. The charged symphonic brass of Piaf's "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" was targeted for use by Nolan yet almost dropped from the film when Marion Cotillard, who starred as Piaf in 2007 film "La Vie en rose," was cast as Cobb's wife, Mal. Zimmer, however, said he talked Nolan into keeping the song in the film, arguing that audiences would not be distracted by the connection. Pieces of Piaf's interpretation of the song were stretched, manipulated and woven into Zimmer's score.

"The version we had listened to sounded like it had been recorded in the ‘40s in this smokey Parisian cabaret," said Zimmer of the Piaf song. "There was romantic danger. Once we found the recording, we found it was a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, and had actually been recorded in the ‘60s. That was actually disappointing. We spent a lot of time to get it back to the way it was the first time we heard it."

With nearly two hours of music at its almost 150-minute run time, a significant portion of Zimmer's score is a tense mix of bellowing, foghorn-inspired brass notes and a striking string section, much of it stitched together with murky electronic atmospheres or heavily layered schizophrenic rhythms. As the film unravels, and becomes an exploration of the unconscious, there are moments when Piaf's vocals are used amidst a rush of violins.

"You realize that the elements that we’ve extracted from the Piaf song are the way you get from one dream level to the next," Zimmer said, offering an explanation that may only make sense to those who have seen the film.

Yet the French chanteuse was only one part of Zimmer's attempts to get at the emotional core of "Inception." The other piece was Marr. Zimmer insists there would have been no guitar in the "Inception" score if Nolan had nixed the idea of using Marr.

"I was writing this tune, and I kept hearing this sound," Zimmer said. "It took me three of four days before I realized, ‘This is Johnny Marr. It’s singularly him.’ If it not’s him, it was not going to be in the movie.

"Instrumentalists aren’t interchangeable," Zimmer continued. "I’m thinking about Jacqueline du Pre playing Elgar Celleo Concerto. There are many great performances, but her performance it that performance. I said to Chris, ‘What about Johnny Marr?’ I was going to ditch it if it wasn’t going to be Johnny."

Though Marr would not be writing original material for "Inception," he said he didn't hesitate at Zimmer's invitation. The technical aspect of finding a certain sound and feel was challenge enough, said Marr. He played with Zimmer's demos, adding distortion to the more action-centric guitar parts.

"One of the things I really enjoy is guitar sounds," Marr said. "You take things for granted when you’re younger, but as I’ve gotten older that’s what I’ve identified as what I really enjoying doing -- matching the right thing with the right emotion. The guitar parts that Hans wrote are beautiful, but they're not pretty."

In an unconventional summer blockbuster with an ambiguous ending, and a film that isn't easy to summarize without spoiling, Zimmer said he would stop himself from "over-intellectualizing" when describing the role of "Inception's" music.

"It’s about adding a sense of loss and mystery, and a sense of emotional belonging in a time that no longer exists," he said. Yet don't think it's a wistful score, as plenty of the film's sounds are more ominous than not. "The good ol’ days," added Zimmer, "are never as good as you think."

--Todd Martens
 
You'll get to start watching Inception on basic cable in 2012!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118022014.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&ref=verttv

Turner isn't dreaming: The cabler has landed the network TV rights to blockbuster theatrical "Inception."
Deal is one of several Warner Bros. features making their way to corporate sibling Turner's TNT and TBS cablers. As part of the package, "Inception," "Jonah Hex" and "Clash of the Titans" have landed at TNT, while "Sex and the City 2," and "Valentine's Day" will go to TBS.
 
Beaulieu said:
went to see this yesterday in Montreal
arrived 1 hour early, but tickets were already sold out
damn fuck shit damn

:lol
Dude, you don't arrive 1 hour early to buy tickets for this movie.
You arrive 1 hour early to make sure you get a seat
 
Zoramon089 said:
:lol
Dude, you don't arrive 1 hour early to buy tickets for this movie.
You arrive 1 hour early to make sure you get a seat

Sad but true. When I watched the movie for the 2nd time, I was 2 hours early. Theatre was COMPLETELY EMPTY (except for parents with kids who were playing the arcade games). They even closed down the box office and the tickets were being sold in the concessions stand. I asked the cashier if anyone is going to show up and she said "Don't worry. Everyone shows up an hour before the movie and everything gets sold out".

I bought a dozen of quarters, split them up to 4 people each (we were 3). Started playing Street Fighter 4, goddamn joystick was unresponsive and at times would move on it's own! As I kept on playing, I got sucked into it (YOULL_BE_SUCKED.GIF). Gave away two of my quarters to this little girl who asked for it. Finished the game in one go (Sagat FTW!) and had a crowd gathering around me. Kids were pretending to be Sagat and were wiggling the second player's joystick and kept on saying "I WIN! I WIN!" when I used to win. So cute! parents would try to tell them to not disturb me but I didn't mind it at all and let them have their fun.

When I finished the game (in Hollywood fashion: Less than 1% health left and the joystick stopped responding. Somehow I won... somehow!), I turned around and the ENTIRE PLACE IS JAMPACKED! I had one hour to go and people were lined up for Inception like it was a firesale! Luckily I had my tickets already and luckily my friends lined up early when they saw the opportunity especially seeing how busy I was entertaining kids lol.
 
Just went to see the film, it was orange wednesday buy 1 get 1 free here in the UK, so the cinema was packed. Luckily we saw a mate near the front of the cue so we jumped cue :lol. Anyways it was an incredible film, it surpassed my expectations, I wasn't this satisfied with a sci fi film since the first Matrix. This film is probably in my top 10 best films of all time. I can't wait for Nolan's next film (Batman 3 I think?). I haven't watched The Prestige and Insomnia yet, so I will check those out, and I will also rewatch Memento (I watched it once when it first released).
 
KAL2006 said:
Just went to see the film, it was orange wednesday buy 1 get 1 free here in the UK, so the cinema was packed. Luckily we saw a mate near the front of the cue so we jumped cue :lol. Anyways it was an incredible film, it surpassed my expectations, I wasn't this satisfied with a sci fi film since the first Matrix. This film is probably in my top 10 best films of all time. I can't wait for Nolan's next film (Batman 3 I think?). I haven't watched The Prestige and Insomnia yet, so I will check those out, and I will also rewatch Memento (I watched it once when it first released).
I concur. My current top 10 Sci-Fi is:
1-Blade Runner
2-Inception
3-Twelve Monkeys
4-Matrix
5-Moon
6-2001
7-Alien
8-Terminator 2
9-The Empire Strikes Back
10-District 9
 
The epic soundtrack can't stop playing in my mind, I must purchase it. I saw it earlier today and simply put I appreciate it for being as much food for thought as a suspenseful ride.
 
mind fuckin blown. imo the best movie christopher nolan has ever made and quite possibly the best film about dreams ever. so fuckin impressed. day one on bluray!
 
The more I think about the movie and listen to the soundtrack, the more I'm inclined to see it again. The sound was so fantastic it warrants a second viewing just on it's own.
 
Urban Scholar said:
The epic soundtrack can't stop playing in my mind, I must purchase it. I saw it earlier today and simply put I appreciate it for being as much food for thought as a suspenseful ride.


+1

just watched this today, and even if you don't like the movie the score is so damn good it could carry the movie on its own.


This is Nolan's best work(or tied with Memento?)
DiCaprio is good but he's playing standard DiCaprio, nothing out of the norm for him even though its a good performance. The supporting cast is what nails it, Joesph Gordon Levit, Ellen Page, and Tom Hardy are phenomenal and fit perfect. My only fault is that it gets a little too action heavy at the end, other than that, its amazing. Will go down as an all time scifi classic.

(I really hope Nolan ditches Batman all together and works on more original stuff like this)
 
I will have to say that this is one of the very best movies I have ever seen. I absolutely loved it. I came out of the theater feeling disoriented like I had just come down off some crazy drugs. Absolutely insane movie. It almost feels like the first time I watched The Matrix.
 
Just saw it and it blew my mind away.

So glad I avoided any and all information about it, I watched one trailer and that was it. Words can't describe how I feel at this moment because it feels like I just watched something that will be remembered for being one of the greatest films of all time.
 
speedpop said:
Just saw it and it blew my mind away.

So glad I avoided any and all information about it, I watched one trailer and that was it. Words can't describe how I feel at this moment because it feels like I just watched something that will be remembered for being one of the greatest films of all time.
Sorry to be a downer, but if Inception goes down as one of the greatest films of all time the world will be worse for it. The movie is almost all gimmicks and doesn't say anything important.
 
BobsRevenge said:
Sorry to be a downer, but if Inception goes down as one of the greatest films of all time the world will be worse for it. The movie is almost all gimmicks and doesn't say anything important.
What should it have said?
 
BobsRevenge said:
Something important, Obvi.

Would you just stop it already. You're not going to change anyone's opinion with your smug, elitist remarks. Seriously, this post just pisses me off. Some of you guys are just trolling the movie for the sake of there being somebody here to troll the movie.
 
SamuraiX- said:
Would you just stop it already. You're not going to change anyone's opinion with your smug, elitist remarks. Seriously, this post just pisses me off. Some of you guys are just trolling the movie for the sake of their being somebody here to troll the movie.
The wording might be trolling, but the sentiment isn't. Maybe I'm exaggerating my opinions as someone would do with a one star review on IMDB. The movie's quality is being blown way out of proportion.

It is number 3 on IMDB's top 250. Number 3. Right between Godfather and Godfather 2. It will almost without doubt stay in the top 10, if not top 5.

It simply does not deserve all of that. Or maybe it does, if just to reflect poorly on the website's voters. Then again looking at some of the other movies up there I probably shouldn't even bother mentioning it.

edit: And that reaction was smug, because how the hell else are you supposed to answer that question?
 
A new release is being praised more than it perhaps should be. It happens nearly every year.

I don't see why it bothers you so much. In time it will fade, or the movie will stand the test of time and prove itself to be that good.
 
speedpop said:
In other words, whatever story that was told within Inception was not important enough for you. Okay.

Well, I had similar feelings as he did-- that the movie was a lot of really cool ideas and neat concepts, just without an interesting story. Truth be told, I was loving it up until it
became a heist plot. I didn't care about what was going on with Murphy's character at all and I really liked the stuff with Cobb and his wife-- when Ariadne is exploring his subconsciousness and is trying to figure out what is "wrong" with him, I found that to be incredibly fascinating
but then the story almost quickly threw that out the window and that's when I started to get bored and unfortunately the boredom lasted until the credits. So, that's the story I would have liked the film to stick with and I'm not saying that subplot didn't get resolved because it did, but I think that's my problem-- it was a subplot. Had it been the main central focus of the story I'm pretty sure I would have liked it a lot more than I did.
 
BobsRevenge said:
The wording might be trolling, but the sentiment isn't. Maybe I'm exaggerating my opinions as someone would do with a one star review on IMDB. The movie's quality is being blown way out of proportion.

It is number 3 on IMDB's top 250. Number 3. Right between Godfather and Godfather 2. It will almost without doubt stay in the top 10, if not top 5.

It simply does not deserve all of that. Or maybe it does, if just to reflect poorly on the website's voters. Then again looking at some of the other movies up there I probably shouldn't even bother mentioning it.

edit: And that reaction was smug, because how the hell else are you supposed to answer that question?
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RobotNinjaHornets said:
What does that even mean? >_>
Like, for instance, actually presents real characters and puts them into a situation. Take A Serious Man. A fairly chill tone is presented. The main character is basically living his life as anyone would. Trying to be a good man. And then his life starts falling apart. As if it was always going to but he never saw it coming. He goes to rabbis in an attempt to find meaning in it, but he finds none. Sometimes the world just isn't fair.

It ultimately presents this nihilistic view of the world and asks you, how could this not be true? None of the characters or situations are unrealistic. They all could happen, and there's no reason they shouldn't.

How is that not more challenging, interesting, and important than what Inception attempts? The Coen brothers directed A Serious Man almost without flaw, and it presents itself simply.

Yet that movie has a 7.3/10 on imdb. Not something to get hung up on, but just a point of comparison.

That sort of thing is what I mean by something important. Says something that might affect you. Change the way you live, or perceive a moment. If subtly.

A Serious Man even presents dreams more accurately than Inception goddamnit! Where's the justice!?
 
BobsRevenge said:
Sorry to be a downer, but if Inception goes down as one of the greatest films of all time the world will be worse for it. The movie is almost all gimmicks and doesn't say anything important.
Oh please, I just can imagine you standing outside the theater; and every time you hear somebody say "OMG, Amazing.. It's up there with the best" "Yeah, one of my fav of all time" you jump out in front of 'em "Sorry to break it to you, but its not!!!!!!!"
 
nemesun said:
Oh please, I just can imagine you standing outside the theater; and every time you hear somebody say "OMG, Amazing.. It's up there with the best" "Yeah, one of my fav of all time" you jump out in front of 'em "Sorry to break it to you, but its not!!!!!!!"
Reminds me of a CKY bit.

"Hey, you like Inception? You like Inception, right??? THAT SHIT SUCKS."
 
nemesun said:
Oh please, I just can imagine you standing outside the theater; and every time you hear somebody say "OMG, Amazing.. It's up there with the best" "Yeah, one of my fav of all time" you jump out in front of 'em "Sorry to break it to you, but its not!!!!!!!"
I didn't share my opinion with my friends right afterwards. :lol :lol

That would be mean. I hate people who share a negative opinion of a movie right after it ends.
 
BobsRevenge said:
I didn't share my opinion with my friends right afterwards. :lol :lol

That would be mean. I hate people who share a negative opinion of a movie right after it ends.
Yeah I'm the same way.

After the movie I just said, I'm going to have to think about this one a little, I'm not sure how I feel about it. When in reality, I just didn't really like it that much. I didn't dislike it as much as you though, by the sounds of it.
 
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